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Subject: Bungie's Destiny: The Joyeuse IP Formula: Version 2.0 (With pic...

Om nom nom!
So much information that I havent read since the first time this thread was posted! Must read it all now!

  • 03.04.2012 6:25 AM PDT

Wow, pretty interesting read there, especially considering that I have not been keeping up with the latest news.

Posted by: cortana 5
(If you've played Marathon, you'd likely agree that Durandal isn't exactly your buddy).

I disagree. He may have been a wall of deceitful text, but he was my wall of deceitful text.

  • 03.04.2012 7:00 AM PDT

Posted by: cortana 5
Please refer to figure one:
Figure One.
The OP confused me most of the time but this figure helped out a lot. If the formula stays the same, a lot of credit for unraveling the mystery goes to you cortana :P

If not, I think we'll all love whatever it is anyway.

  • 03.04.2012 7:12 AM PDT

Yes, there're too many numbers in my name.

Excellent work. You really seem to have put an extraordinary amount of effort into this, and I'm certain it will pay off.

  • 03.04.2012 7:16 AM PDT

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Great work! Even if it turns out to be incorrect, it is still a fantastic theory, which you have clearly put a lot of time and effort into.

  • 03.04.2012 7:19 AM PDT

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Joey, you forgot this thread ;)

Nicely summarized, C5! Images are very good tl;dr.

I think that with the knowledge that Charlie was a King...this seems awfully fitting, no?

I look forward to finding out if Joyeuse is actually going to be a weapon this time. In the thread I linked above, I talk about how the lessons learned in ODST and Reach should tie into Destiny...so I'm wondering if the idea of a silent AI companion (a la Superintendent) will also carry over. Perhaps that was practice for Destiny as well?

  • 03.04.2012 7:35 AM PDT

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I remain a subscriber of this theory still. I'm glad you were able to repost it.

  • 03.04.2012 7:38 AM PDT
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You've been a busy girl Cortana, it was great reading your (thesis?). Lots of ideas, quiet a few links, and a pinch of dark shots; I'd say you've done very well =).

  • 03.04.2012 7:47 AM PDT

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Thread saved!
It will be interesting to see if you are right. Great work with this thread regardless of the outcome.


...oh and china called they still want their wall back ;)

  • 03.04.2012 7:53 AM PDT

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But this is in the Community Forum!?! ;)

Nice work. I always enjoy reading these longer thread over a drink. I'll to wait a bit until I form an opinion to discuss this. Just let this sit for a while. Might as well re-read the original thread you created.

Thread saved!

  • 03.04.2012 7:57 AM PDT

Why does Bungie always have to have mystic details?

  • 03.04.2012 8:03 AM PDT

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Edit: Found it. You should add it to the OP, Cortana. It really is a good resource.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall another thread (perhaps one made by SJ) where there was a link to a page about the Song of Roland. It was a green colored page (if I remember correctly) and was translated from Chinese.

I know that's not much to go on but it had a LOT of information and I can't seem to find it.

[Edited on 03.04.2012 8:07 AM PST]

  • 03.04.2012 8:03 AM PDT

We were somewhere around Barstow...

Insanely nice work.

  • 03.04.2012 8:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Edit: Found it. You should add it to the OP, Cortana. It really is a good resource.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall another thread (perhaps one made by SJ) where there was a link to a page about the Song of Roland. It was a green colored page (if I remember correctly) and was translated from Chinese.

I know that's not much to go on but it had a LOT of information and I can't seem to find it.
Yeah it was near the bottom of this thread that I posted that.

Was definitely a good resource!

Edit: Just noted that a sword-owner "Saracen" has an amusingly similar name to that of my Gamertag.

[Edited on 03.04.2012 8:13 AM PST]

  • 03.04.2012 8:12 AM PDT

Key

I just found something in that thread that I discovered before and then forgot about, (at the time I was using "DefiniteInfinity"). But my post went relatively unnoticed so I'll talk about it again.

Another link (specifically to the Halo Universe) is that another sword wielded by one of the people in the "Song of Roland" appears as an AI in the Halo universe.

The AI and Sword are both known as Almace. You can read about Almace and the Archbishop Turpin's role in the "Song of Roland" here. Though I have not yet researched enough to figure out what specifically the relation between said sword and the AI in question, but it is definitely another link.

Edit: And this could mean that there is also a lesser known and less prominent AI from Marathon that shares a name with one of the swords. Also, because there are a total of 6 named swords (and one spear) in the "Song of Roland", that would leave 2 remaining for the Destiny universe.

Edit 2: I think that Hauteclaire might be the secondary AI (analogically, Hauteclaire is to Joyeuse as Alamce is to Cortana) in the Destiny Universe, as it was made at the same time as Joyeuse by the same cutler. Almost equally possibly could the secondary AI be Flamberge, as it was formed at the same time as Joyeuse and Hauteclaire. But, Flamberge is not one of the central "named" swords in the "Song of Roland" (Hauteclaire is) and is, in fact, a type of sword and not a specially made sword with a personified name.

The fact that it isn't a "main" sword in the "Song of Roland" may not even matter, due to the fact that Cortain (Cortana) was not one of the main swords, but I think it seems likely that it will be one of them.

Also lending credence to Flamberge not being one of the AI's in the next game, is that it, too was made for Charlemagne. On the Halo side of things, Almace and Cortain were made for two different people as they were completely unrelated to one another in the Halo story.

Now, obviously, I'm beginning to hypothesize within hypotheses, but I've got nothing else to do.

And... I could be entirely wrong and I could sound nothing short of a mad man. Meh.

[Edited on 03.04.2012 11:05 AM PST]

  • 03.04.2012 8:27 AM PDT

Good theory and all, but i'm still pumping for Time travel.

Oh wait, nevermind. That's my Halo 4 theory.

  • 03.04.2012 8:29 AM PDT

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excellent work as always, cortana 5.

  • 03.04.2012 8:38 AM PDT

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Nice work OP, that was faultless.

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Great work Cortana 5. You have cut out the fat from version 1 and streamlined this one. Visuals really help too. Great presentation.

I have noticed that each AI character name is just a tad different from the sword name, so I'm guessing that Joyeuse will be named Joyous (which actually sounds like an awesome name) or Joyce. I'm thinking Joyous though..

  • 03.04.2012 9:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
I don't say this much, if ever, but I'm posting in an epic thread.

Great work Cortana 5. You have cut out the fat from version 1 and streamlined this one. Visuals really help too. Great presentation.

I have noticed that each AI character name is just a tad different from the sword name, so I'm guessing that Joyeuse will be named Joyous (which actually sounds like an awesome name) or Joyce. I'm thinking Joyous though..
It could be Joyce if it was a Grandma AI.

  • 03.04.2012 9:02 AM PDT

"That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing after another, a what and a what and a what.

Now try how and why."

As always, your research and insight is incredibly impressive, but I'm confused as to what you're trying to get at that wasn't discussed in your previous thread.

Perhaps you can clarify, as I'm not always the sliest of readers.

Or was this just supposed to be easier to get in to?

[Edited on 03.04.2012 10:40 AM PST]

  • 03.04.2012 10:30 AM PDT

Posted by: homocidalham
As always, your research and insight is incredibly impressive as always, but I'm confused as to what you're trying to get at that wasn't discussed in your previous thread.

Perhaps you can clarify, as I'm not always the sliest of readers.

Or was this just supposed to be easier to get in to?

I think that it's just supposed to be slimmer.

  • 03.04.2012 10:39 AM PDT

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Cortana 5 is a carbon-based lifeform that frequently visits these forums, currently residing in the United States. Practically every male on the site responds to her posts.

The Joyeuse IP Formula

Mainly, I'm just making a cleaner version for a different audience. No new points are really being made in the OP. That's what discussion if for. :3
Posted by: homocidalham
As always, your research and insight is incredibly impressive, but I'm confused as to what you're trying to get at that wasn't discussed in your previous thread.

Perhaps you can clarify, as I'm not always the sliest of readers.

Or was this just supposed to be easier to get in to?

  • 03.04.2012 11:04 AM PDT

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I hate to burst your bubble, but wasn't one of the main reasons Bungie stopped making Halo was because they were bored of it? What makes you think they aren't bored of their Protagonist/Antagonist formula that they have kept through the past 20 years?

Just saying.

  • 03.04.2012 11:09 AM PDT
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Good thread, Cortana.

  • 03.04.2012 11:09 AM PDT