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Subject: What are the mods doing about organized spam attacks?
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Today, go back a few pages in the Flood, and there are many locked threads about "Halp 4", made up trolls with names ending with "rectum".

This was obviously organized, probably made by a class room of idiots, question, what do the mods do against such attacks?

Why not IP bans?

Once, this guy was editing Wikipedia in our school, and he got IP banned, which stretched to the entire school for Wiki edits.

Why doesn't Bungie implement such a feature?

  • 03.05.2012 12:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Quantam
Why not IP bans?

It's been said before I believe; but IP bans restrict everyone who uses the same IP regardless of the different computers you have access to. A mass of people at places like Universities, ect will be effected if but one moron gets banned for not following the CoC.

  • 03.05.2012 12:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: Quantam
Why not IP bans?

It's been said before I believe; but IP bans restrict everyone who uses the same IP regardless of the different computers you have access to. A mass of people at places like Universities, ect will be effected if but one moron gets banned for not following the CoC.

Exactly.

  • 03.05.2012 12:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Quantam
Exactly.

Uh-huh. So restrict (in some instances) more than 40,000 people because one person posted a link to meatspin, or twenty people were involved in some spam attack?

  • 03.05.2012 12:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Zealot Tony
Uh-huh. So restrict (in some instances) more than 40,000 people because one person posted a link to meatspin, or twenty people were involved in some spam attack?
1. Large organisations such as Universities do not use a single IPv4 address for Internet connectivity.

2. Even if 40000 users were using the same outside global address, how many of them would be using Bungie.net, how many would be using the forums, and how many would be trying to post?

  • 03.05.2012 1:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Zealot Tony
Uh-huh. So restrict (in some instances) more than 40,000 people because one person posted a link to meatspin, or twenty people were involved in some spam attack?
1. Large organisations such as Universities do not use a single IPv4 address for Internet connectivity.

2. Even if 40000 users were using the same outside global address, how many of them would be using Bungie.net, how many would be using the forums, and how many would be trying to post?

But why risk those who do use the same IP address, use Bungie.net, and do post, when they themselves are not involved with a user who has the same IP and gets banned? I guess my post had some hyperbole, but people at places like universities can share an IP and have nothing to do with each other, as well as use the same primary sites. But then all are effected when one of them does something which gives them restricted access, due to an IP ban.

[Edited on 03.05.2012 1:42 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2012 1:06 AM PDT

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1. Permaban them
2. ...uh thats it....

New accounts have some posting restrictions so this "organized" spam is easy to kill and it takes a good chunk of time to rebuild. Its not like Bnet is a battleground for a thermonuclear troll war.

  • 03.05.2012 2:55 AM PDT
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So it happens a few times big deal.

I like the forums to be a little lively, try to live up and relax. Stop being so stiff and boring.

  • 03.05.2012 3:20 AM PDT

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It doesn't happen often enough that it necessitates a change in moderator protocol or even for you to make a thread about it.

It gets dealt with, and it's no longer happening.

Who cares?

  • 03.05.2012 3:21 AM PDT

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I haven't seen nor heard of them until today. So it mustn't be that big anyways.
OT: wut up with these lame cyber criminals anyways? what can they gain?

  • 03.05.2012 7:45 AM PDT
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As for what I saw earlier, it seems the moderators are doing their jobs.

  • 03.05.2012 7:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: mister death
I haven't seen nor heard of them until today. So it mustn't be that big anyways.
OT: wut up with these lame cyber criminals anyways? what can they gain?
Nothing in this thread was very criminal. Do some research into cybercrime, there is a lot to gain. I'm currently studying it at University (crime and terrorism on the Internet), quite interesting stuff, but this kind of trolling is nothing.

[Edited on 03.05.2012 7:53 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2012 7:51 AM PDT

Please stop complaining about the 'death of a loved one' it's my job. They probably deserved it anyways. Here's a warning, if you keep making pentagrams out of the neighbors livestock I will personally come to your house and kill everyone you love. Now leave me alone, I got to get back to work.
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Posted by: Kickimanjaro

Posted by: mister death
I haven't seen nor heard of them until today. So it mustn't be that big anyways.
OT: wut up with these lame cyber criminals anyways? what can they gain?
Nothing in this thread was criminal. Do some research into cybercrime, there is a lot to gain. I'm currently studying it at University (crime and terrorism on
the Internet), quite interesting stuff, but this kind of trolling is nothing.

hey thanks. yeah I'll look into more. well if this trolling has no purpose whats to gain?

  • 03.05.2012 7:54 AM PDT
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I do not think that IP bans are necessary; the Ninjas are handling this kind of spam attacks almost every day. I could say that they stand their ground as much as Grey Knight space marines.

  • 03.05.2012 7:56 AM PDT

Hell, I think they're amusing. Just ignore them, it's not hard.

  • 03.05.2012 8:09 AM PDT

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There really isn't much that can be done besides banning the accounts and locking the thread.

  • 03.05.2012 8:12 AM PDT

OP, I see that all of those threads have been taken care of. What's the problem?

  • 03.05.2012 8:16 AM PDT

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  • 03.05.2012 8:29 AM PDT

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  • 03.05.2012 8:36 AM PDT

Honestly, this must be a joke. Child, listen, stop trying to defend yourself because clearly you are incapable of it. The only idiot in this thread is yourself, and trust me, it is obvious. So, how about you do as I asked earlier and log off, mommy and daddy wouldn't want you staying up this late.
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Can someone please explain to me why people still think an IP ban is effective.

Also, when will the technology that lets me reach into my monitor and strangle these people exist?

Hog's guide to IP bans:
1. Turn off modem
2. Wait 5 minutes
3. Turn on modem

Turn off modem at your own risk, I am not liable for any damages.

  • 03.05.2012 9:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Quantam
Why not IP bans?

Once, this guy was editing Wikipedia in our school, and he got IP banned, which stretched to the entire school for Wiki edits.
Seems like you just answered your own question.

Also, see the above posts about how easy it is for a user at home to change his/her IP address.

The key to eradicating organized spam (and other forms of rulebreaking) is not to find better ways to punish users, but rather to find better ways to encourage good, quality posting and establish value in a single account.

  • 03.05.2012 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
in a single account.


Which is were peoples alts come in...

Going back to the OP though, It's no big deal. Nothing that bad came out of it.

  • 03.05.2012 9:37 AM PDT

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If little babbys like you don't cry over every little thing. People wouldn't bother "spam attacking" bungie.net. But since you get so worked up you're feeding them.

Clearly the mods did something if the threads were locked. I think you're spam attacking us with this horrible thread that is so unneeded.

Also here we go with another retarded IP banning thread. ITT: 14yr old skiddies the experts of Internet Protocol.

  • 03.05.2012 9:43 AM PDT