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Subject: Squad Slayer

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want 343 to remove it, I do enjoy it when my team isn't me, a kid with 0.5k/d and 3 of his guests against a full party.

But why do people like it so much? Basically, all it is is a big nadefest with jetpacking guests on Reflection. I enjoy TU slayer DMRs more than squad.

  • 03.05.2012 2:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Ghostie117
But why do people like it so much?
No Armor Lock
No trash community maps
Teams vs Teams

  • 03.05.2012 2:06 AM PDT

Posted by: boomdeyadah
No Armor Lock
No trash community maps
Teams vs Teams

Unimaginable grenade spam
Jetpack (yeah its in TS too but with 5 players per team its even worse on maps like Asylum)
Teams vs me, a .5k/d kid, and three guests
Reflection

I hate reflection.

  • 03.05.2012 2:10 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=94249 5689&player=Ghostie117
Do people honestly enjoy that ^

  • 03.05.2012 2:13 AM PDT
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No AL
No trash maps
Good competition

OP, Squad Slayer teaches you where to stay clear of when it comes to nade spam. Trust me, I used to -blam!- about 5v5 nade spam, but then I learned to stay out of the upper hallways in maps like Reflection, and to flat out dashboard when morons pick Countdown. On maps like Boardwalk, Powerhouse, Asylum, Uncaged, Zealot, the nades are easy to avoid unless you're another Derp Diggler holding the controller upside down.

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  • 03.05.2012 2:14 AM PDT

With the nade spam, AL actually seems necessary. Also jetpack is still there, and is even more abused due to more (and often better) players.

No trash maps... Reflection, Countdown, Boardwalk, Uncaged...

It's only good competition when full teams match full teams. Not everyone plays in full teams, and not every full team matches another full team every time.

  • 03.05.2012 2:23 AM PDT

Having AL because of any sort of grenade spam is not a viable reason. AL doesn't belong in Slayer, hell it doesn't belong in this game at all.

Really, grenades are only a problem on Countdown, and maybe Zealot, that map doesn't work for 5v5.

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  • 03.05.2012 2:26 AM PDT

AL doesn't belong in slayer, but with the bs settings reach has (low move speed, mini-nuke nades, sprint + sword), AL is kinda necessary. Basically, Bungie added one unneccesary feature, and then another unneccesary feature, but each feature then makes each other neccesary.

Grenades are also a problem on Reflection. Zealot is so bad in 5v5 :/

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  • 03.05.2012 2:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ghostie117
With the nade spam, AL actually seems necessary. Also jetpack is still there, and is even more abused due to more (and often better) players.

No trash maps... Reflection, Countdown, Boardwalk, Uncaged...

It's only good competition when full teams match full teams. Not everyone plays in full teams, and not every full team matches another full team every time.


The only trash map of the group is Countdown. Stay out of the upper hallways in Reflection, stay in the middle on Zealot, and learn how to use jetpack for Boardwalk/Uncaged. yOU'll be fine.

As for the game you posted, I usually dashboard from those scenarios myself. Just like I used to dashboard out of them in BTB and TS. It happens in every playlist.

  • 03.05.2012 2:58 AM PDT
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... not to mention a lot of good players enjoy the 5v5 ruckus on the small maps, and having more people to shoot at, or more nades to dodge, or more jetpackers to snipe. I for one can't even go back to BTB, it's so boring and slow after months straight of Squad Slayer.

OP, i'm trying not to bring your k/d or skill level into this but I really think that it may have an effect on your opinion of Reach's purest slayer playlist to date.

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  • 03.05.2012 3:00 AM PDT
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What's wrong with playing against guests?

players are players

  • 03.05.2012 3:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Koolen
What's wrong with playing against guests?

players are players


Did you even see the link the op posted? Anyone who's played more than 50 games of squad has been in that same situation. Personally it's an immidiate dashboard if there's a player with 3 guests on my team, and that's just one of the reasons why there should be an 1 guest limit to all playlists.

  • 03.05.2012 4:09 AM PDT

Let it go.


Posted by: Ghostie117
I do enjoy it when my team isn't me, a kid with 0.5k/d and 3 of his guests against a full party.


Squad Slayer has party restrictions. You won't be matched with teams of 4-5 unless you go in with a team of 4-5. You fail.

  • 03.05.2012 4:15 AM PDT

The teams vs. teams is the biggest thing for me. Whenever I search BTB, I will invariably run into a full team of inheritors that can actually play the game, even though I pull off a 29-13 we end up losing 36-100. So that's why I like squad.

  • 03.05.2012 4:42 AM PDT

Posted by: Myth iZ
The only trash map of the group is Countdown. Stay out of the upper hallways in Reflection, stay in the middle on Zealot, and learn how to use jetpack for Boardwalk/Uncaged. yOU'll be fine.

As for the game you posted, I usually dashboard from those scenarios myself. Just like I used to dashboard out of them in BTB and TS. It happens in every playlist.


I know what to do and how to do what effectively on whichever maps, but that doesn't exclude the fact that those maps are trash.

Yeah, any normal person would quit out of a scenario like that in any playlist. However, it takes far longer to get a game in squad than in TS or BTB, and I don't really mind full parties; what I really hate are bad teammates. And with a 10 player (and 4 guest) limit, squad matches me with alot more bad players.

  • 03.05.2012 3:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Koolen
What's wrong with playing against guests?

players are players

I don't mind playing against (and most often destroying) guests, but I very much mind when I have a team of bad guests.

  • 03.05.2012 3:17 PM PDT


and that's just one of the reasons why there should be an 1 guest limit to all playlists.

This is absurd. I understand your frustration, and I've been in that situation many times. However, taking away 4-player abilities is out of hand.

Instead, they should simply put guests against guests. If your are playing with a guest, your enemies and teammates will more likely be guests.

People who don't believe in 4-player must not have many friends who they can see.

  • 03.05.2012 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: KO Drizzy Dray
People who don't believe in 4-player must not have many friends who they can see.

Or they could just be adults with adult friends who all have their own 360. My friends and I hate playing against a full team of guests almost as much as having them on our team. It's no fun for either party.

  • 03.05.2012 3:29 PM PDT


Posted by: KO Drizzy Dray
This is absurd. I understand your frustration, and I've been in that situation many times. However, taking away 4-player abilities is out of hand.

Instead, they should simply put guests against guests. If your are playing with a guest, your enemies and teammates will more likely be guests.

People who don't believe in 4-player must not have many friends who they can see.

No, guests should be limited to 1 in matchmaking. In customs, do whatever the hell you want with them kids.

  • 03.05.2012 3:37 PM PDT

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I love squad. Sadly they are removing it, I wish i matched more competent teams when I played though.

  • 03.05.2012 3:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ghostie117
But why do people like it so much?
No Armor Lock
No trash community maps
Teams vs Teams

  • 03.05.2012 3:53 PM PDT