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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: lollipopkids
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: jack0fhearts
How do we know they are multiplayer only if we've only been told of their existence and use in multiplayer? I mean, it's a very safe bet that they're in multiplayer - it could even be safely argued that it is an outright certainty - but the only thing we know for certain of the campaign is that it has relevance to Forerunners, the UNSC makes some form of appearance, there are updated and more advanced Warthogs and Battle Rifles, and the Chief somehow gets a hold of a new suit of armor.
There's really nothing blatantly excluding the Spartan IV's from the campaign storyline, so we shouldn't rule that out until we know for certain.
chief is still wearing mark VI, frankie even brought that up in the video and then stated MP and SP are separate experiences.
Grey101, you seem to be basing your argument on the mere statement that "MP and SP are separate experiences" and you've taken it out of context in order to prove your point that so many before me have proven wrong.
What Frankie was saying that while previous Halo games, such as ODST and Reach pulled their multiplayer maps from the campaign itself, Halo 4 will emulate Halo 3 in that it will build multiplayer environments from the ground up in order to make multiplayer strictly multiplayer and campaign strictly campaign.
Yet even with your previous statement of "they're separate experiences" even if it was in context with what he was saying, does this specifically mean internally that Spartan IV's will not be part of the campaign in any way, shape, or form? No. He said that the multiplayer would be explained, and unless your postulating that before every multiplayer game that every player is forced to watch a three-minute cutscene explaining why they're fighting before they play, the only real place for the Spartan IV backstory to be revealed would be in the campaign itself.
Of course they're separate, it means that you play them separately like every other Halo game, but your taking some offhand unscripted comment from one narrator and turning it into the underlying guideline of Halo 4, that Spartan IV's are never mentioned or a part of the campaign, even though they are the integral piece of multiplayer and it was explicitly said by more than one commentator that the multiplayer story would be explained, and the only place for that to be truly delved into is campaign.
Stop destroying everyone elses guesses just by repeating the same thing over and over without seeing other peoples point of view. I might be completely wrong and you are right, but you need to open up your mind to the possibilities.
Paragraphs, first off.
How am I taking that out of context when that is the only context we have? You cannot make so many assumptions of them being in campaign based off that part of the video being in multiplayer. It isn't like we don't have or have had things in the halo experience that were exclusive to MP and SP. If the video hinted at more then I wouldn't be contesting, but it would be wise to wait for more information before getting trigger happy.
Um. When he was talking about the maps is not the same as him talking about the spartans. He says in MP you are a spartan IV while in MP you are MC. He also says they are separate. This is like saying "If you can play as a hunter in FF you must be able to play as one in the campaign".
I ma not "postulating" anything and he said the reason for spartans fighting each other would be explained not the spartan IVs themselves since they were already brought up in Glasslands. I suspect the answer is probably going to be a simulation since that is the only one that makes perfect sense with everything in mind
"r taking some offhand unscripted comment from one narrator and turning it into the underlying guideline of Halo 4,"
lol, what? So by me saying the SIVs probably won't be in SP that is me "assuming everything about halo 4"? oh, and that comment was on the script and that narrator was frankie, who is pretty much the head honcho of 343I. not some "Random narrator." critical to multiplayer doesn't have anything to do with campaign. I could wager that the BR was "critical to the MP of halo 3" yet if the campaign didn't have it nothing would suffered.
"Stop destroying everyone else's guesses just by repeating the same thing over and over without seeing other peoples point of view.."
Well, for one I am known for doing that and it wouldn't be my character if I stopped. Two, Nobody should be speculation so hard with such bland statements. Explain how I am destroying "everybody's guesses" if I am only posting this in one thread. Also explain how telling people to wait for more information is a bad idea.
We have been told several times that the reclaimer trilogy is going back to the roots of story telling and focusing on cortana and chief. Throwing in random spartans doesn't go with that not to mention it wouldn't be smart doing that after how reach was received.
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Ok that's not the only context we have. We know that halo four is gonna be a little different. It could include sII's sIII's and sVI's. If they want to make the books and the games similar, then we could be seeing spartan3s like katana or even Naomi from glasslands.
[Edited on 03.30.2012 8:19 AM PDT]