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Subject: Do you 343 will bring miranda back from the dead like 343GS and linda

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Miranda is dead.
Johnson id dead.
343 Guilty Spark is dead.

Yes I have read Primordium, no it never states that Chakas is Guilty Spark. It makes a clear difference between the two. Not to mention they have different personalities and knowledge. Spark though the Librarian was dead. Chakas does not.

  • 03.07.2012 9:40 PM PDT


Posted by: prometheus25
Nowhere in Primordium is it say that 343 Guilty Spark is back.

What it does say is that the science team decided to label him as 343GS, but there was clearly written uncertainty as to whether it was him.

Not to mention that the monitor that they questions said that they had "encountered a fragment of [him]." That "fragment" was most probably 343 Guilty Spark.

It is important that everyone realizes that the monitor in Primordium was not the same monitor encountered in the Halo games, 343 Guilty Spark.


I think everyone does know that, but for the sake of conversation, we just call him Guilty Chakas because he 1) isn't Chakas anymore, but 2) on the other hand still has traces of Spark's programming in him somewhere. Spark is "alive" only in the sense that his core program lives. But he's not the same character.


Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
One thing I forgot to mention is that i heard 343 has already confirmed hiring johnsons voice actor for halo 4 (As well as the chief, cortana, and the arbiters original voice actors) which is one reason i wondered if they would bring her back, although they might have just hired him for a firefight voice or possibly some sort of flashback. I'll have to double check that source but i'm pretty sure it's official

I only started this thread to see what other people thought about my theory. Sorry if i didn't remember exactly where miranda got shot because i rarely play halo 3 anymore since reach came out let alone the campaign.

Oh i already knew about miranda being halsey's daughter just like
everyone has since reach came out


If that's true, then: firefight voices/characters.

[Edited on 03.08.2012 4:17 AM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 4:16 AM PDT

Posted by: DrPepperlova07

Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
where did it say she got her spinal cord severed

She got multiple superheated spikes directly to the spine. Watch the Halo 3 cutscene. It's pretty obvious. It sucks because she was Halsey's daughter. Bet you didnt know that.


so miranda was jorges sister ?

  • 03.08.2012 4:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: prometheus25
Nowhere in Primordium is it say that 343 Guilty Spark is back.

What it does say is that the science team decided to label him as 343GS, but there was clearly written uncertainty as to whether it was him.

Not to mention that the monitor that they questions said that they had "encountered a fragment of [him]." That "fragment" was most probably 343 Guilty Spark.

It is important that everyone realizes that the monitor in Primordium was not the same monitor encountered in the Halo games, 343 Guilty Spark.


I think everyone does know that, but for the sake of conversation, we just call him Guilty Chakas because he 1) isn't Chakas anymore, but 2) on the other hand still has traces of Spark's programming in him somewhere. Spark is "alive" only in the sense that his core program lives. But he's not the same character.




Um no, he is chakas the entier point of the novel is showing that you are your thoughts not your body. He calls himself chakas, he speaks as if he is chakas, he remembers his physical human form which was originally chakas.

He is Fuc**ng chakas. 343 was a separate part of him.

and by "we" you mean yourself because you are the only idiot not able to understand a simple concept and to still push it not matter how stupid it sounds.

  • 03.08.2012 6:40 AM PDT

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Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: prometheus25
Nowhere in Primordium is it say that 343 Guilty Spark is back.

What it does say is that the science team decided to label him as 343GS, but there was clearly written uncertainty as to whether it was him.

Not to mention that the monitor that they questions said that they had "encountered a fragment of [him]." That "fragment" was most probably 343 Guilty Spark.

It is important that everyone realizes that the monitor in Primordium was not the same monitor encountered in the Halo games, 343 Guilty Spark.


I think everyone does know that, but for the sake of conversation, we just call him Guilty Chakas because he 1) isn't Chakas anymore, but 2) on the other hand still has traces of Spark's programming in him somewhere. Spark is "alive" only in the sense that his core program lives. But he's not the same character.




Um no, he is chakas the entier point of the novel is showing that you are your thoughts not your body. He calls himself chakas, he speaks as if he is chakas, he remembers his physical human form which was originally chakas.

He is Fuc**ng chakas. 343 was a separate part of him.

and by "we" you mean yourself because you are the only idiot not able to understand a simple concept and to still push it not matter how stupid it sounds.


Grey, chill out, you child.

And Roberto, while I do realize that many people acknowledge that Chakas and 343 are independent constructs, I see no way that "Will 343 bring back Miranda like they did GS" implies that GS and "Guilty Chakas," as you refer to him, are known to be two different beings. You realize it, yes, but I do believe that most that have replied in this thread haven't grasped that.

  • 03.08.2012 7:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

don't recall being hot nor do i recall being a child.

and most people do grasp that concept since they have had months to think about it.

  • 03.08.2012 7:51 AM PDT

Miranda Keyes is one of the worst characters ever created in any fiction. I've seen film extras hanging in the gallows with more personality than her.

  • 03.08.2012 8:23 AM PDT

i just asked my friend who told me about the voice actors for halo 4 and he said got the info from halo 4 follower

[Edited on 03.11.2012 3:11 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 3:10 PM PDT


Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
then again they might bring her back as an A.I. for all we know
That is very possible because they can take a sample of her brain if Johnson got her to cryo sleep that would preserve her brain they can turn that into a AI just like her mother did, who is Dr. Halsey for people who don't know, with cortana who is a sample of her brain.

  • 03.11.2012 3:27 PM PDT

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be smaller then him! 1000G
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If miranda comes back... My mind will explode!

  • 03.11.2012 9:14 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
don't recall being hot nor do i recall being a child.

and most people do grasp that concept since they have had months to think about it.


You don't recall your childhood? That's tragic. Amnesia is a very serious condition that plagues many Americans.

I hope you can overcome it. My thoughts are with you during your struggle.

  • 03.12.2012 1:11 AM PDT


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Posted by: DrPepperlova07

Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
where did it say she got her spinal cord severed

She got multiple superheated spikes directly to the spine. Watch the Halo 3 cutscene. It's pretty obvious. It sucks because she was Halsey's daughter. Bet you didnt know that.


so miranda was jorges sister ?


Jorge was not Halsey's son. He calls her "Ma'am" with an accent, not "Mom". Both the game's subtitles and the developer commentary confirm this.

  • 03.12.2012 1:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: UrethaPoptarts

Posted by: grey101
don't recall being hot nor do i recall being a child.

and most people do grasp that concept since they have had months to think about it.


You don't recall your childhood? That's tragic. Amnesia is a very serious condition that plagues many Americans.

I hope you can overcome it. My thoughts are with you during your struggle.


You are clearly an idiot if you can't understand the context that was stated in not to mention it wasn't directed to you.

If you are going to be sarcastic don't post days late to a thread and know what you are talking about when you do.

  • 03.12.2012 7:32 AM PDT

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