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screw what master cheif looks like(he does look awesome)
but what about the elites man...

[Edited on 5/24/2006 by Great_Pretender]

  • 05.23.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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  • 05.23.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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Yea. I'm dieing to see what the elites look like too.

Now sense I am a new member I can't make a topic so i'm gonna have to start one here.
Now halo 3 is going to have much better graphics then that of halo 2. Thus more memory usuage use on graphics. Thus less gameplay or fewer levels or shorter campaign. I only say these will decline is because xbox 1 and xbox 360 both use the same dvd basic design. They both hold the same amount of memory.

So, If bungie hasn't aleready thought of it already I belive multiplayer and campaign should be a 2 seperate discs. Things makes more memory for the most 2 most anticipated things the game has to offer. And more memory means more stuff and better graphics.

  • 05.23.2006 10:28 PM PDT
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Yea. I'm dieing to see what the elites look like too.

Now sense I am a new member I can't make a topic so i'm gonna have to start one here.
Now halo 3 is going to have much better graphics then that of halo 2. Thus more memory usuage use on graphics. Thus less gameplay or fewer levels or shorter campaign. I only say these will decline is because xbox 1 and xbox 360 both use the same dvd basic design. They both hold the same amount of memory.

So, If bungie hasn't aleready thought of it already I belive multiplayer and campaign should be a 2 seperate discs. Things makes more memory for the most 2 most anticipated things the game has to offer. And more memory means more stuff and better graphics.


Very VERY true... I have the same worries... I really hope they do have a disc for campaine then one for multiplayer..... BUT have you ever played "Oblivion" holy hell that must be the longest game Ive ever played... and that has better graphics then most games out there... for Halo 3 though, it really looks like BUNGIE is pushing it on the graphics, those look NIIIIOCE!!! So yeah, I think it will be a decent length... ESPECIALLY if they have it on 2 discs! :)

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  • 05.23.2006 10:32 PM PDT

I doubt they will have a need for two discs, though it wouldn't hurt. Microsoft has stated that developers can easily fit things onto 1 disc, they just need to learn how to properly compress (One unnamed game, either Oblivion or Gears of War supposedly) was having trouble fitting onto four discs until it was compressed properly. Since Bungie has such close relations with Microsoft, I bet they will be in the know on how to best conserve disc space.

  • 05.23.2006 10:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: EazyJAE
Yea. I'm dieing to see what the elites look like too.


Here is a picture of an elite without his helmet on.

That should hold you over for a while.

[Edited on 5/23/2006]

  • 05.23.2006 10:38 PM PDT
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... graphically it relies on the xbox360 interpretation of Code. Doesn't necissarily mean that there's going to be so much code for graphics that they can't add suitable story. Bungie's Halo Story line is too involved for them to fail in telling the ending of the story properly.

I doubt there will be two discs. Graphics are a matter of precaching code and processing it. Something the xbox 360 is capable of. Oblivion is the PERFECT example of how you can CRAM alot of stuff into 1 DVD and still have it look amazing.

  • 05.23.2006 10:39 PM PDT
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Well, I don't know anything about compressing the game. But, I'll be ticked if they just throw it all on one disk and make it really "short" in all manners if you get what i'm trying to say.

  • 05.23.2006 10:40 PM PDT
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Again, Oblivion.

  • 05.23.2006 10:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: EazyJAE
Yea. I'm dieing to see what the elites look like too.

Now sense I am a new member I can't make a topic so i'm gonna have to start one here.
Now halo 3 is going to have much better graphics then that of halo 2. Thus more memory usuage use on graphics. Thus less gameplay or fewer levels or shorter campaign. I only say these will decline is because xbox 1 and xbox 360 both use the same dvd basic design. They both hold the same amount of memory.

So, If bungie hasn't aleready thought of it already I belive multiplayer and campaign should be a 2 seperate discs. Things makes more memory for the most 2 most anticipated things the game has to offer. And more memory means more stuff and better graphics.



i think they'll probably just use a blue disc( discs with a blue back) those hold way more memory than normal discs

  • 05.23.2006 10:49 PM PDT
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If you want to see an elite without armor on, it's simple....watch the first cut scene of Halo 2. Halo 3 would end up with much improved graphics, as the trailer has shown. No one can argue that that isn't the real time graphics, as Bungie has shown in the last two Halo games that in the cutscenes, the graphics are the same as in while you're playing. Just thought I'd add that bit...

  • 05.23.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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I thought oblivion was a horible game. For many reasons I can't seem to get people to agree on. For one, The graphics are fantasic, however thats it. There are no movies in it. Just cinemized character movement. The fight in the game still is absolutly gross and all you can do is play the 1st player so thats all they had to do. You guys arn't seeing the big picture here.

I belive halo 3's campaign should be like that of oblivion, just the campaign and thats it so they can make it amazing. You can't add multiplayer to oblivion I highly doubt that(if there was such a thing). So where would you add the multiplayer? On another disc! Imagine like 35 insane, interacting, graphically de vincci, and overall insane maps.

Now if you guys don't understand what i'm throwing on the tabel, well i'm sorry, but if you don't understand your driveway doesn't quite reach the garage.

  • 05.23.2006 10:53 PM PDT
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At any rate of all the 'memory this' and 'what disc that' =) Bungie will no doubt make the game as something everyone will enjoy, an ending that will for sure surprise everyone, and simply H3 will just rock.

  • 05.23.2006 10:57 PM PDT
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I think the elites will be like in halo 2 but some how lesser quality. there speed and jump height wil be the same as mc's but the color schymes will be slightly different

also i think all of the covenent will combine into a super covenent warrior within the 1st minute so the entire game mc has to try and stop super cov by eventuly planting a vial of the flood inside of himself and attempting to contaminate everybody inside super cov but he gets a three shot to the head with the "new" pistol by super cov.

  • 05.23.2006 11:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: MrBalupalupe
I think the elites will be like in halo 2 but some how lesser quality. there speed and jump height wil be the same as mc's but the color schymes will be slightly different

also i think all of the covenent will combine into a super covenent warrior within the 1st minute so the entire game mc has to try and stop super cov by eventuly planting a vial of the flood inside of himself and attempting to contaminate everybody inside super cov but he gets a three shot to the head with the "new" pistol by super cov.


*blinks*....uhhhh.....what the hell....?

  • 05.23.2006 11:17 PM PDT
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You know... it almost started out on topic. Then I dont know what the F happened. Seriously.

  • 05.23.2006 11:20 PM PDT
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Some one must have started beating it with a stick until it bled.

  • 05.23.2006 11:27 PM PDT

I'm just a 3D artist trying to go straight.

I design Levels (maps) and from what I've seen, many things in a DX10 universe take up less space but look better. If you look at Halo 1 compared to Halo 2: Halo 2 looks much more detailed and realistic, but the Master Cheif in Halo 2 takes up less polygons than the Halo 1 cheif. Optimization and tricky codework can make a game look better, run smoothly without taking up more room. Xbox360 uses an early version of DX10, and I immagine Halo 3 takes advantage of it.

  • 05.23.2006 11:27 PM PDT
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thank you

  • 05.23.2006 11:29 PM PDT
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well i'm a model builder for bungie and acutally we used dx10 so effextivly that all our models have a poly count of 17 each.

  • 05.23.2006 11:32 PM PDT
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Cmon guys keep on topic...plz?

  • 05.23.2006 11:39 PM PDT
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DUDE....i JUST realized that elites kinda look like the wicked vampire dudes from the 2nd blade movie with the whole split lip thing...weird
*head explodes*

  • 05.23.2006 11:43 PM PDT
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... for the record, your topic was:


Posted by: Knockcha
screw what master cheif looks like(he does look awesome)
but what about the elites man...


... we ARE staying on topic by talking about "Character Builds". It just so happens that character builds and level builds, are somewhat similar.

Also, I still say this thread has produced more valuable information than I thought possible by the OT.

  • 05.23.2006 11:47 PM PDT
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Rumor has it that the elite model in H2 was a female specimane. In halo 3 the model will most likely be much more manly and tough looking.

  • 05.23.2006 11:55 PM PDT
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and for the record YOU even said that it was gettin off topic so there
=P

  • 05.24.2006 12:03 AM PDT

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