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Subject: The needler

What is so great about this gun that it makes nearly everyone who passes by it want to use it? It is probably the WORST weapon in the game. Yes, it fires a steady stream of homing needles at a target. it also can apparently take down your shields quite fast, and result in an explosion if you were able to get enough of those needles to hit your target.


But the thing is, the weapon promotes mindless rushing. Most people think that the needler is an all powerful power weapon like the rockets, or the sniper. Which just inst the case. When you are using the needler, you leave your self open for attack.

Reasons why it leaves you vulnerable:

1: the projectiles/ needles are bright, and slow. This gives other player the oppertunity to pin point where you are almost immediately.

2: it's range is actually fairly limited. Meaning, you are really only able to use it's full potential at long range, both medium and short range do not give the needles you are firing enough time to adjust to their targets' movements. So while you're spamming that thing at either short of medium range, he's pot shotting you with a DMR, or some other projectile weapon, while half of your needles are missing him. So rushing at a target with a neelder is probably the worst thing you could do at any given time, because as you do so, you are limiting the movement of the needles, and just screwing your self over.

3: the needles are slow. Which gives any decent player a lengthy reaction time to try and dodge most of the needles that are being fired at him. For example, when I'm in a match on Zealot, and I have a person firing needles at me. I would just simply duck behind some cover and let him waste his needles. Once he's finished, I would just pop out of my cover and finish him off while he is reloading. or hell, even if he stopped firing and waited for me to pop out, I would still be able to finish him off becasue of the slow travel time the needles have.

4: the amount of needles you need to use to actually kill a target is awful. 90% of the people who use this weapon just spam the entire clip at one target, which would result in a reload, and leaving you open for attack by another enemy. If you insists on using that weapon to take out the second target, you'll probably only be able to get two needles out before you're killed.

5: outside of your lock on range, the weapon is just useless. All it can do is mindlessly spray an area where a target is. If you're lucky, MAYBE you'll get two needles to hit that target.


So what I'm trying to say here is don't use the needler. Or if you do, try be smart with the thing and only use it if your target is out in the open, and far enough (but still within lock on range) for the needles to adjust quick enough to hit your target. otherwise, you are just feeding the enemy team points.

If you think you're a beast with the gun, then I'm sorry to say that you need to stop lying to your self.

TL;Dr: the needler sucks, don't use it. EVER.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 4:53 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 4:48 PM PDT

everyone who uses that gun craps on me with it but when i use it i cant kill -blam!-.

  • 03.11.2012 4:51 PM PDT

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I only use it in Invasion and doubles.

  • 03.11.2012 4:52 PM PDT
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I find the needler to be really effective against jet packers. Since they can't do evasive maneuvers in the air...

I find the needler a good weapon IMO, the players using it in your post weren't exactly the brightest bunch...

Just have to be smart, give yourself the tactical hand.. And don't judge this bad boy from other players, you gotta use it xD

Edit- keep in mind needler is not good for CQC as the movement is heavy and... Let's just say not good, unless you're gifted xD

[Edited on 03.11.2012 4:57 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 4:55 PM PDT

Posted by: darkopsO
I find the needler to be really effective against jet packers. Since they can't do evasive maneuvers in the air...

I find the needler a good weapon IMO, the players using it in your post weren't exactly the brightest bunch...

Just have to be smart, give yourself the tactical hand.. And don't judge this bad boy from other players, you gotta use it xD

Edit- keep in mind needler is not good for CQC as the movement is heavy and... Let's just say not good, unless you're gifted xD
The jet packs you're describing are probably just as dim as the ones using the needlers in my post.

No offence. It's just what the type of people we have to deal with in this game.

reason two talks about how the range of the needler is limited and why it cant be used in CQC situations.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 4:59 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 4:57 PM PDT
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I use it when jetpacking. Hate me.

  • 03.11.2012 5:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Ninja Is Str8
I use it when jetpacking. Hate me.
Free kill.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:01 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:01 PM PDT
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Unless I superlift while Jetpacking, I'm never a free kill.

  • 03.11.2012 5:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Ninja Is Str8
Unless I superlift while Jetpacking, I'm never a free kill.
Super lift and make it so all the targets on the map are out of range for your needler to lock on to.


<insert you getting team shot here>

[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:03 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:02 PM PDT
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Needler is boss, I asways die from it though :(

  • 03.11.2012 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: ankerd123
Needler is boss, I asways die from it though :(
don't put yourself in situations where you can be killed by one.

Like being out in the open.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:06 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:06 PM PDT
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It's great when Jetpacking and against Jetpackers, and in wide open spaces like Hemorrhage. It will also beat an AR easily if you've got a good strafe game. In Invasion, a Needler/Camo sneak attack is deadly in the first phase. There are plenty less useful weapons.

I checked your stats, OP, and it looks like you're just not giving it a chance.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:09 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:08 PM PDT
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Lost my old account long ago ( darkops0 :[ )... Halo forever! :3
and back for awhile xD

Kinda hard to reply with something meaningful xD

But if you do find the needler bad, I'm okay with that. You backed yourself up with good points. And Yep, we do have to deal with people we don't like, but gotta have to buckle up sometimes :s

I still love you needler ! xD


Edit- dang forgot to quote.


[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:09 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:08 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

It is good gun if you can use it properly

  • 03.11.2012 5:11 PM PDT


Posted by: Mark V guy
It is good gun if you can use it properly
Fun fact: the needler isn't an actual gun.

  • 03.11.2012 5:17 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: Zarth111

Posted by: Mark V guy
It is good gun if you can use it properly
Fun fact: the needler isn't an actual gun.


It is a gun since you pull a trigger and fire projectiles

  • 03.11.2012 5:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Mark V guy

Posted by: Zarth111

Posted by: Mark V guy
It is good gun if you can use it properly
Fun fact: the needler isn't an actual gun.


It is a gun since you pull a trigger and fire projectiles
Nope, it's a tool that was originally meant for mining.

  • 03.11.2012 5:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zarth111

Posted by: Mark V guy

Posted by: Zarth111

Posted by: Mark V guy
It is good gun if you can use it properly
Fun fact: the needler isn't an actual gun.


It is a gun since you pull a trigger and fire projectiles
Nope, it's a tool that was originally meant for mining.


Woah, woah wat? xD

  • 03.11.2012 5:24 PM PDT

Rumble pit.. Camp with camo bottom green lift on sword base with it. Easy kill frenzy.

  • 03.11.2012 5:24 PM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.

I'm -205 with the needler.

  • 03.11.2012 5:29 PM PDT


Posted by: Ghosty Gh0st
everyone who uses that gun craps on me with it but when i use it i cant kill -blam!-.

This.

I'm -859 with that stupid PoS mining tool, or whatever it is. I wish they'd remove it from matchmaking all together.

[Edited on 03.11.2012 5:45 PM PDT]

  • 03.11.2012 5:43 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

For some reason, most people are able to strafe and make all my needles completely miss, even if my aim is nigh perfect. If I try that, I get obliterated.

  • 03.11.2012 5:43 PM PDT