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Subject: Killing Dumb Halo 3 Ideas
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It seems that Bungie has learned from its mistakes (Halo 2) by adding the Assault Rifle back in to the game. But will they add more of Halo 1's greatness? Hopefully. But what about the new things that people think would be fun, like 64 people online and other bullcrap like that. Well, here I'll pose the problems with the main desires for this game and the reasons they don't fit in the Halo franchise.

50-64 online multiplayer:
This is easily one of the dumbest ideas out there. Think of how bad spawn camping is in 16 player matches on Blood Gulch/Coagulation. Now multiply that by 4. Now before you say, "WELL HALOFORCE THEY COULD JUST MAKE BIGGER MAPS, LOL" Let's look at how many people played Waterworks, Containment, and others like that and Bungie won't do scalable maps, guaranteed. Also, remember how hard it is to get a 16 player match going with Bungie's lobby system and match set-up? Yeah, now try and manage 64 people, by booting cheaters and such, your entire players list would fill up in one match. 64 players would kill the strategy and teamwork involved in Halo. How many times have you people actually gave and followed orders and crap like that in a Big Team Battle match? If they add it, it will kill the Halo franchise. Keep the player count at 16 or if you absolutely need more people: raise it to 24 players, but no more or you kill the game.

Pelicans/Scarabs in multiplayer:
This is just plain dumb. Talk about overpowering the multiplayer to unbalance it more. This would cause races to those vehicles and cause massive balancing issues. This is the worst idea yet for Halo 3's multiplayer. It's not Battlefield 2.

BS weapon ideas:
Flash bang grenades, a mini-halo nuke, dual-wieldable swords, mines, and other bs like this makes me sick. Flash grenades are never useful in arcade-like games, look at PDZ. Mini-Halo nuke is just asking to be whored. And dual swords serve no purpose when it is a one hit kill. Mines only promote camping, so they shouldn't be added.

Bots:
Wait, what's that you say? You want bots? Too bad. Bots kill online multiplayer. They ruin the community aspect of games they are included in. Just imagine bots for a second, they would have to know every route to take on every game mode on every map and they would have to understand player created gametypes. Also imagine, how many people will boost their lifetime stats on Halo 3, if the game includes them; don't worry most games now do. Just think how many people completely suck at Halo; well if you suck you obviously don't like getting beaten, so why not play an AI character instead? Bots will leave more people playing against them and not against other gamers; it screws over the community even more. Keep the AI in singleplayer, prefect that, and then the online multiplayer; they shouldn't waste their time with that. Any way if you have a 360 and don't have Xbox Live then you have no reason to have a 360, since its best and main feature is Xbox Live. I’d be fine if they were offline only bots, only playable in split-screen, though.

4/8/16 player co-op:
This is just a dumb as hell idea. Halo only works with 2 player co-op. Imagine Halo 1's beginning in co-op, but this time instead of having 2 cryotubes open have 16 open. This idea just doesn't fit into the Halo storyline. Don't bring those bs ideas for people to play marines, that's extra-strength dumb there. Keep it at 2 player online co-op.

More multiplayer character models:
"I want to play a grunt/drone/brute/marine/elite/hunter in multiplayer". How dumb can these ideas get? This isn't a class based game; it's a mildly fast-paced arcade shooter. I want Bungie not only to not add more multiplayer models, but to remove the elite. That's how you code most mods online. This game should just be Spartan on Spartan action in multiplayer. The elite is too easy to headshot, even if the bullet-magnetism didn't do all the work for you. Anyways, it's just a bs Bungie excuse for saying they added something new to the game.

Customizable Weapons:
Yeah, I can’t believe someone could think this could possibly work. The same person said it could be cool if you could combine weapons so they have an alternate fire. He suggested the Sniper/Rocket gun. They also wanted to be able to add grenade launchers onto a BR. Will it ever stop? I think wee all see the stupid bs that is going on here. So let’s get onto the “better” ones.

Mapmaker:
Name one good console mapmaker that incorporated indoor environments just as good as outdoors. Now if you can come up with one, name 5 maps the developers made for the game of the top of your head. Didn’t think you had an answer, so I’ll list more problems. Halo 1 was incredible in the multiplayer because Bungie makes really good maps for it. Halo 2 had some great maps, but no gameplay to back it up. Everyone probably think they can make a good map. Wrong, if Halo 2 montages were any instance; not everybody can do what they think they can. Not to mention this is a gigantic feature to implement. It would take about 1-2 years to make a very good editor. So do you want Halo 3 out on the 360 or the next Microsoft console? That is what you need to ask yourself.

To be continued...

  • 05.26.2006 11:39 AM PDT
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Continued...

New Power-Ups:
Examples: “SuPeR SpEd” (translation: super speed), “Bonus damage”, and other of the like. My god, how dumb can people get these days? Talk about unbalancing the multiplayer even more. If you got the speed power-up, you could just rish around the map and get all the others then. This is just simply a stupid idea, Bungie don’t listen to your idiot “fans”, listen to the people criticize Halo 2 and have ideas that they thought about for more than 10 seconds. Halo 2 had some good ideas, but the game was rushed out.

Dropships and more player models revisited:
I hate it. I mentioned this before, but if you go to look at the topic on Bungie.net, so many people it. Do people think about the ideas for more that 10 seconds or do they just blurt out the first thing that comes to mind?

Completely Destructible Maps:
I’m in favor of minor destructible things like in Halo 2, but people want it to where you shoot a rocket in the ground and it leaves a crater. One word comes to mind everytime a person mentions this: Lag. Way to kill the servers with this and a high player count (32-64) this game would be no more than a PowerPoint presentation.

Cover/Leaning:
Not happy camping alone with you remote/prox mines? Why not be able to take aim on a person without them being able to see you? Camping, camping, camping. This is not Rainbow 6, this is not Battlefield, this is not Perfect Dark Zero; this is Halo, keep it at that.

Press White/LB to Talk to Team:
Yeah, the fans never asked for this, but Bungie needs to take it out. When is there one time you don’t need to talk to your team? I’m fine with proximity voice for the other team, but why don’t you want to talk to your team? Oh yeah when you’re cheating and give the other team the location of your teammates. Take the out Bungie, but keep prox-voice in.

Master Chief’s Face:
Haha, this is just plain dumb. Why do we need to see what he looks like? No matter what it could be, people will disagree and bash the game. There is no reason to see his face at all. He is just a bad-ass space marine killing aliens. The more people ask this the more people want this to become more like an episode of “General Hospital”. I actually saw one person say they want the Chief to get married to Cortana at the end of Halo 3.

Shield/Health System
People want the health to come back, they don’t want it to come back, people think the game should only have health like unreal…when will it end? Health was a good idea for Halo 1; it kept you from massive spawn-camping by having the health only being replenished by a, what do you know, Health Pack. But it also kinda slowed down the game-play, by: if you got shot and needed to be healed your next priority was to go find a health pack. So, in Halo 2 they just take it away and give you a shield that recharges at the speed of light. I say, keep the Halo 2 way of having no health, but make it take longer to respawn fully. Like 7 seconds, not to long, not to blazingly fast. Perfect.

Xbox Version of Halo 3
It took me about ten minutes to think of something to say. This idea was just too dumb it hurt my brain. So after taking an Advil, I came back and started posting what you are currently reading. I have seen many people who want this, but they seem to think this time next year they will be playing games on the 360. Just to put this simpler; if you do not have an Xbox 360 by the time Halo 3 comes out then you shouldn’t have Halo 3. Sounds harsh, but realize this; if Bungie has to make two different versions of the same game. This would take at least 2 extra years. So, instead of playing Halo 3 on in 2007, you will be playing in 2009. Sound fun? No, it doesn’t.

3rd Person View
Well, there is good and bad news. The bad: this idea, the good: it can not possibly get any worse. Halo is a fast paced first-person-shooter. Not a bs squad-based third person shooter like Ghost Recon. This idea is horrible.

Keeping Glitches In
What the ****? Glitches are…well, glitches. They are things that hamper and ruin games. Why in hell would you want to keep these things in? They serve no purpose, but to piss people off. But some people think that they can prove this bs idea. Wrong, no matter what glitch people want them to leave in, they don't justify the consequences of that glitch. It’s not like Bungie can create a completely glitch-free game, you can just use the glitches that will happen for Halo 3. One last note on this: why the **** do people want things that hamper the experience for Halo 3?

Have Master Chief Turn into a Flood
Looks like I may run out of Advil by the time I finish this post. There is a simple answer to this one, no. This thing just doesn’t work into the story line of the Halo franchise. This idea is juts plain dumb, never let us talk about it again.

Airplane
No, they don’t mean the pelican for multiplayer, they mean a jet. Let’s just look at this: jets have to be going incredibly fast to have them fly. By the time you took flight, you would be crashing into a wall on Blood Gulch. How do they want this to work? I don’t know. But the same person also mentioned that 2 people should be able to fly in it. Why, so two people could commit suicide together?

Movable Turret/Flamethrower
Man, do I get tired of hearing these two things being asked for. First, the turret idea. This would have major camping issues because you could just set two up in their base and stop anyone from getting out of it alive. Next, the Flamethrower idea. This will only add in frustration, weapon balance issues, and less aiming. You would just have to hold it on them for a second, and they would be on fire, and most likely dead within a 3 seconds of holding the flame on them. It didn’t work in Halo PC, so how in the hell could they change it to work in Halo 3, with out completely changing the idea of it?

Dual-wielding Melee
First off, this would incredibly over-power dual-wielding even more than it already is. Second, it would over complicate the controls to the game. Also on the topic of dual-wielding melees, some people still want dual swords. To that I say: Kill yourself, the world needs less idiots.

Think before you post bs ideas.

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Posted by: mr poopoo232
its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

I disagree with you with more than half of these ideas.

  • 05.26.2006 11:42 AM PDT
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Halo 2 > Halo 1

You = Mistake

Me = Halo 2 fanboy

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I find that post the message below usually does the trick.
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Congratulations, you just made the 3rd most repeated post. Here’s a quick primer:

*You will get stupid answers.
*Abandon all hope.
*Answering back will mean a war with Hell (and all of his friends).

Good luck. Your post will now be consumed by other dumbass posts.

In case you were wondering:
1.”Halo theories”
2. Assault (-blam!-) rifle
3.”What/Who/Where do you want/don’t want to hear/see in H3?”
4.”Dude! I saw something new in the trailer!”
5. “Will Master Chief take off the helmet?”
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  • 05.26.2006 11:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: oO Jackal 0o
Press White/LB to Talk to Team:
Yeah, the fans never asked for this, but Bungie needs to take it out. When is there one time you don’t need to talk to your team? I’m fine with proximity voice for the other team, but why don’t you want to talk to your team? Oh yeah when you’re cheating and give the other team the location of your teammates. Take the out Bungie, but keep prox-voice in.



I don't think it's not wanting to talk to your team as much as it's not wanting to hear what your team is saying.


However dumb ideas will never die....kinda like Keith Richards

  • 05.26.2006 11:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: FightingRaven531
I disagree with you with more than half of these ideas.


I disagree with all of them. This should get locked pretty soon.

  • 05.26.2006 11:43 AM PDT
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Why should this be locked? The topics that should be locked are ones asking for these things.

  • 05.26.2006 11:45 AM PDT
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I agree. except that I that i thought Halo2 was pretty well done and not rushed out.

  • 05.26.2006 11:46 AM PDT

Agree with most of your points, but I don't quite get why 4 player co-op is any worse than 2 player co-op, although I don't think it should go any higher than 4 player.

Since it'll most likely support 4 players per Xbox 360.... I just think having three friends over and playing co-op would be quite fun.

  • 05.26.2006 11:48 AM PDT
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I wouldn't mind that much for 4 player, but anymore and it'll just be stupid.

  • 05.26.2006 11:50 AM PDT
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I agree with almost everything you said. Except for not being able to be other species in multiplayer. I think theres one good exception. Juggernaut. Having a Hunter as the Juggernaut would be fun and not hard to do. Yes, I agree not to have grunts and jackels running around in slayer, though.

  • 05.26.2006 11:52 AM PDT
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So let me get it straight...your saying make halo 3 almost identicle to halo 2... no thanks id rather comit scuicide in a jet than have nothing new!

  • 05.26.2006 12:04 PM PDT
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oO Jackal 0o, I completely agree with you. These ideas are dumb and I hope none of them will be in Halo 3.

  • 05.26.2006 12:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sergeant Boon
are you blind? halo 2 was awesome. and you dont think that by the time halo 3 comes out, they wont find a solution for the lag? grow up and stop complaining. no one wants you here,
AMEN!

  • 05.26.2006 12:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sergeant Boon
you dont think that by the time halo 3 comes out, they wont find a solution for the lag?


How is Bungie (a company that makes video games) going to solve the problem of lag (A problem caused by slow internet connections, bandwith, and maybe your telephone company)?

  • 05.26.2006 12:07 PM PDT