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Subject: I Give Up. Lag Switch.

My buddy and I got lag switched. I rushed rockets and got a triple kill. After that, we went into black screen and when we respawned, the score was 30 - 4. We managed to catch up to 36 kills, then we went into black screen and the game was over.:
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  • 03.18.2012 2:03 PM PDT
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You're not even in this game. Are you sure this is the right link?

Never mind, you fixed the link.

[Edited on 03.18.2012 2:08 PM PDT]

  • 03.18.2012 2:06 PM PDT
Subject: Lag Switched In The Arena

Sorry, I copied the URL to some random game. I just fixed it.

  • 03.18.2012 2:08 PM PDT

you were playing arena just expect games like that.

  • 03.18.2012 2:08 PM PDT
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It's cool, I was slightly confused, that's all.

  • 03.18.2012 2:09 PM PDT
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It's real sad that people have to cheat to win games.

  • 03.18.2012 2:10 PM PDT

This has been going on since halo 2. No need to made forum post about it.

  • 03.18.2012 2:39 PM PDT
Subject: I Give Up. Lag Switch.


Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
It's real sad that people have to cheat to win games.

^This.
I feel your pain. I fell victim to a cheat like that once recently.
I was playing Invasion, The enemy team failed to score when they were on offence. When my team was on offence, we scored two points. We were going after the core, (Note: my team was on offence and were Elites at the time.) we then went to the screen with the scoreboard and black background. When it finally went back to the game, My team was switched to Human (defense) the enemy team was offense, (Elites) The timer was reset to four minutes, the score was Tied 2 points each, and my team was allowed to do offense again. The best part is, despite the cheating they committed, they still lost by two points. Game Stats. It's in my File Share if you want to see it.(Just watch in-game no need to render)
It's sad enough to cheat, but to cheat and still lose? That just displays how bad they are. In my opinion: If People want to cheat and wreck the game for themselves fine, they should just leave us (Those who actually want to play the game) un-involved.

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  • 03.18.2012 2:40 PM PDT
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What the hell is a lag switch?

  • 03.18.2012 4:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Shad0wSlayer117

Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
It's real sad that people have to cheat to win games.

^This.
I feel your pain. I fell victim to a cheat like that once recently.
I was playing Invasion, The enemy team failed to score when they were on offence. When my team was on offence, we scored two points. We were going after the core, (Note: my team was on offence and were Elites at the time.) we then went to the screen with the scoreboard and black background. When it finally went back to the game, My team was switched to Human (defense) the enemy team was offense, (Elites) The timer was reset to four minutes, the score was Tied 2 points each, and my team was allowed to do offense again. The best part is, despite the cheating they committed, they still lost by two points. Game Stats. It's in my File Share if you want to see it.(Just watch in-game no need to render)
It's sad enough to cheat, but to cheat and still lose? That just displays how bad they are. In my opinion: If People want to cheat and wreck the game for themselves fine, they should just leave us (Those who actually want to play the game) un-involved.

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  • 03.18.2012 4:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: the pib
What the hell is a lag switch?

Something that doesn't work in Reach, as it immediately puts the user in black screen without affecting anyone else in the game. Unless they're host, and then they'll probably just end up getting host jacked.

The most anyone could do is mild standbying if they pulled host. Or [d]dos'ing individuals. Random black screens are almost always just lag, not cheating.

[Edited on 03.18.2012 4:42 PM PDT]

  • 03.18.2012 4:41 PM PDT


Posted by: i can has drugz
Something that doesn't work in Reach, as it immediately puts the user in black screen without affecting anyone else in the game. Unless they're host, and then they'll probably just end up getting host jacked.

The most anyone could do is mild standbying if they pulled host. Or [d]dos'ing individuals. Random black screens are almost always just lag, not cheating.

This x1000.. Also, the people that post about haxorz.. Do you know how difficult it would be to hack a AAA game? Especially one run by MS?

  • 03.18.2012 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wumpa Warrior

Posted by: i can has drugz
Something that doesn't work in Reach, as it immediately puts the user in black screen without affecting anyone else in the game. Unless they're host, and then they'll probably just end up getting host jacked.

The most anyone could do is mild standbying if they pulled host. Or [d]dos'ing individuals. Random black screens are almost always just lag, not cheating.

This x1000.. Also, the people that post about haxorz.. Do you know how difficult it would be to hack a AAA game? Especially one run by MS?


i always find it funny when ppl think lag switches "srent possible" and "aim bots dont exist" i have a friend that uses both on a daily basis, that is if he decides to play daily, and gets away with it, it happens ALOT just because you dont see it doesnt mean its not there. a wise man once said "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

  • 03.18.2012 5:59 PM PDT

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I very much doubt you got cheated at border-line-silver Gold level.

  • 03.18.2012 7:25 PM PDT

"I'll tell you right now, if you ever see someone called ll wa1do ll... leave the game immediately. My friend knows him, I've been in his party a few times, do not mess with this guy. From what I've heard, he's the real deal. I also heard someone made a guy named Wa2do (similar to his name) and then he hacked that guy and boosted off his level." -From Minou on Bungie.net

You're bad, kid.

  • 03.18.2012 7:48 PM PDT


Posted by: i can has drugz

Posted by: the pib
What the hell is a lag switch?

Something that doesn't work in Reach, as it immediately puts the user in black screen without affecting anyone else in the game. Unless they're host, and then they'll probably just end up getting host jacked.

The most anyone could do is mild standbying if they pulled host. Or [d]dos'ing individuals. Random black screens are almost always just lag, not cheating.
People can't standby arena. (The only exceptions being Facebook and Fearic)

  • 03.18.2012 8:19 PM PDT

Regardless of what people who think you can't standby on The Arena say, I just experienced it.
What other explanation is there when your entire team is on black screen, you reappear and the score and the time remaining have both changed?

  • 03.18.2012 11:21 PM PDT
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Sorry but i looked at the stats and your team is getting kills the whole game you just suck.

  • 03.19.2012 12:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Odez Ml0

i always find it funny when ppl think lag switches "srent possible" and "aim bots dont exist" i have a friend that uses both on a daily basis, that is if he decides to play daily, and gets away with it, it happens ALOT just because you dont see it doesnt mean its not there. a wise man once said "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

You just proved you are lying. Aim bots don't exist on consoles. The few people who can get online with hacked xbox's modify the in-game aim-assist values. No bots involved. Try again when you know what you're talking about.

And you can try lag switching yourself, it doesn't work with Reach. You immediately go black screen while everyone else keeps playing. If you do it on host everyone goes black screen including yourself. You can do some mediocre standbying if you pull host, but that has nothing to do with lag switches.

Face it, almost everyone who claims people are cheating in reach just experienced lag.

[Edited on 03.19.2012 1:03 AM PDT]

  • 03.19.2012 1:01 AM PDT

Link or it didn't happen.


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Posted by: i can has drugz
You just proved you are lying. Aim bots don't exist on consoles. The few people who can get online with hacked xbox's modify the in-game aim-assist values. No bots involved. Try again when you know what you're talking about.

Ok, first up, NOT talking about reach - cause that would be against the rules ... but [nudge, nudge] lets take a theoretical game.

In this game we;
- fire a shot, throw a nade - any selected action;
- capture that outbound packet;
- without modding that packet, which may even be encrypted (in theory),
- we resend that exact same packet, to the same address
(yes, we spoof the ip/mac from the pc running out capture software - buts that unencrypted udp territory, so no biggie)
- and we resend it a few more times

What would the host see?
Would it know that the packet order was out?
--- nope UDP by nature is not delivery order guarenteed.
Would it see a checksum error in the packet load?
--- nope, we didnt change the data segment. Even the UDP itself is the same.
(as remember, in theory, we are spoofing the seder details).

Think of this as the reverse of packets loss. Instead of the shot being lost throw a non-deliverd udp message ... we are now sending a rapid fire hail of bullets. Each counted by the host as a hit OR miss (but hopefully hit).

But your right, could never happen ;)
Often wondered though what that repeated enemy jump forward/back action meant. The most obvious case of this was in Halo 3's Epitaph central raise platform, with those repeatedly falling elites.
That would just be a client side view of what happened. The bullets being fired is received and sent by each client and the host. The network is programmed on the basis of packet loss rate, and if duplicate packets are sent, then the packets that would be there otherwise would be lost and the lost packets would be enough to switch host. I've been in engineering and networking for years now...

  • 03.19.2012 5:25 AM PDT

I love it when people call other people bad and they haven't even beaten the Campaign.

  • 03.19.2012 8:03 AM PDT
Subject: Lag Switched In The Arena

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
It's real sad that people have to cheat to win games.
That just proves how much some people suck at Halo, but they aren't motivated to find something that they're good at.

  • 03.19.2012 9:05 AM PDT
Subject: I Give Up. Lag Switch.

"I'll tell you right now, if you ever see someone called ll wa1do ll... leave the game immediately. My friend knows him, I've been in his party a few times, do not mess with this guy. From what I've heard, he's the real deal. I also heard someone made a guy named Wa2do (similar to his name) and then he hacked that guy and boosted off his level." -From Minou on Bungie.net


Posted by: MotoX Champ88
I love it when people call other people bad and they haven't even beaten the Campaign.


I love it when my cat with three legs goes positive yet you can't.

  • 03.19.2012 9:10 AM PDT

When someone says 'lag-switch' you immediately know they are out of touch and have no idea what they are talking about.

  • 03.19.2012 9:12 AM PDT

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