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Subject: Skill falling apart.

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Skill, maps, and balances are falling apart. Fast. Let me set this up.
I went in to a game of SWAT. Half of my team quit. The other guys were a full party, talking trash. I'm an Eclipse, my teammate was a Nova. These guys were roughly the same.
Sword base (I dislike it). We stomped them, big time. I got 30, my mate 20. I had more kills than their entire team combined.
The sad thing is, this isn't a one hit wonder. This happens all the time. Noobs talk trash, and think they are good because of their rank. They proceed to get stomped, and blame lag, the map, camping, whatever. You know what? Four guys should be able to overwhelm one camper. Or not, to judge by a few killing frenzy's.
So, skill is not matching up at all. I play with decent Warrant Officers and lame Novas.

Maps.
Don't even get me started. Slap a soft kill anywhere hard to get to. Put on a special effect. Slap some cratees over the flow points (Lifts, rooms, low-G areas). Add in some random boxes. And get drunk, then move every piece about 15 degrees out. Soubd familiar? Bedlam. Uncongealed. Parasitic. These sloppily forged, messy, unbalanced maps run rampant. Give me good ol' Blood Gulch, not a "BTB Heavies" map with nothing in it but 2 Wraiths and a Gravity Hammer.

Spawns.
Seriously, how hard are spawn zones, soft zones, anti's, and points? Setting up a map's spawns so that spawn trapping (I call it legit ONLY if you do it on a map that actually has multiple spawns) is impossible, or difficult. Getting spawn trapped is currently solved by having you spawn IN THE ENEMY'S BASE. WHY? That is even worse!

Balances.
Why does 343 feel the need to tweak Reach's nose every 2 weeks? Reach is it's OWN balanc of MP. Don't try to make it Halo anything-else-but-Reach. That is the way it feels, deal with it. AL can block a plasma. The counter? Wait 7.5 seconds, then shoot. Active Camo gets a bonus for crouching and standing still. Guess what? That limits it's effectiveness. Now you may as well run around jamming radar. Vehicles aren't bought at Wal-mart.

It has all been said before, but,
TL; DNR:
DEAL WITH IT. Reach is REACH. It is NOT HALO 3. Just let it be what it was meant to be. Stop complaining. Everything has a counter.

  • 03.18.2012 10:31 PM PDT

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  • 03.18.2012 10:32 PM PDT

I agree with all of this, especially the part with the maps.

Spooky Base and Deadwalk are probably the two worst maps on Halo: Reach but people always vote for them because they're think "OH DERP SWORD BASE" "HERP BOARDWALK".

  • 03.18.2012 10:51 PM PDT

Getting spawn trapped is currently solved by having you spawn IN THE ENEMY'S BASE. WHY?

lol asylum.

  • 03.18.2012 11:23 PM PDT
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If you haven't yet lost the ability to ask, you may not yet ask for relief.

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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2914984

"REACH is REACH. Not Halo 3."

I agree. Agree with everything in your post.

After the Title Updates (even though Degrades would fit much better), Reach is nothing but a horrible wannabe-copy of Halo 3. If I want to play Halo 3, I put in Halo 3. If I want to Play Reach, I put in Reach.

343 is doing a horrible job with Reach, and I sure as hell don't want to see what they're gonna do with Halo 4.

  • 03.18.2012 11:29 PM PDT

I am a stuck up player just to get that out there I play with the top swat players and this happens to me alot were igo into swat games with a group of my friends and 2 or 3 of the other people leave and sometimes the people give us a challenge and some times they lose horribly. The only reason your winning is they r scrub randys or its rly good people that are bored i hate playing a 1vs4 it is very boring and takes way to much time just sitting there looking for 1 person and do you know how easy it is to kill 4 people frantically looking for 1 person any decent player can kill 4 people so dont post stuff like that

  • 03.19.2012 1:06 AM PDT
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Some people are horrible at Reach, some people are very good at Reach.

I don't care who I face or who I team up with, but I'd rather face a terrible team so I can win by kicking ass and chewing gum then getting my ass kicked game after game.

  • 03.19.2012 1:24 AM PDT

Tin shacks and catfish bones.

Swat 2v4? The team of two has a decent chance since they have two additional targets.

  • 03.19.2012 5:37 AM PDT

I don't need a specialized burger; I stack BKs on my own.

Skill

SWAT

Pick one.

  • 03.19.2012 6:01 AM PDT

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Thanks, guys. To BeeKay, I have this to say. 30 and 15. 29 DMR kills, 29 headshots. 1 pummel. A 2.0 K/D and a win when outnumbered, without camping, on a map I dislike, IS skill.
Go petition. This post is now on 343's forums.

  • 03.19.2012 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: TheSilverhead
Balances.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Reach never had any decent balance. Why do you think their tweaks are somehow getting rid of that?

And AL was never counterable. Waiting is a call for inaction, which means the person doing the waiting is forced to pause his engagement all because someone pressed a button, and he can therefore do nothing to prevent Mr. AL from wasting 6 seconds of time for everyone involved. Now, it's possible to counter armor lock by damaging AL, a feature that it should have had at DAY ONE.


[Edited on 03.19.2012 10:57 AM PDT]

  • 03.19.2012 10:56 AM PDT

DMR + Sniper Rifle + Sprint= total demolish

DEAL WITH IT. Reach is REACH. It is NOT HALO 3. Just let it be what it was meant to be. Stop complaining. Everything has a counter.


This is what people do not understand even if they are held prisoner being told the same thing over and over again they still say "Why can't it be halo 3?!?!?!?"

  • 03.19.2012 11:02 AM PDT

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Don't have Armor Lock in a map without vehicles. Simple. No one needs it in Team Slayer, but, good ol'AL is ROCKIN' in BTB.

Here is the 343 thread. If you agree with me, or have something to say, say it there as well.
http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst67601_Skill-falling-apa rt.aspx

  • 03.19.2012 11:03 AM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Lol, I would link your stats, but I don't even think I need to anymore. You're terrible. That's why you like Reach. That's why you think everything has a counter.

You're just mad about not being able to adapt to a more balanced Reach.

  • 03.19.2012 11:35 AM PDT

I'd like to point out having less people in swat gives you the advantage.

  • 03.19.2012 11:38 AM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: TheSilverhead
Thanks, guys. To BeeKay, I have this to say. 30 and 15. 29 DMR kills, 29 headshots. 1 pummel. A 2.0 K/D and a win when outnumbered, without camping, on a map I dislike, IS skill.
Go petition. This post is now on 343's forums.

lol no that's SWAT - any idiot can win when they have a numbers advantage. That's the nature of SWAT. It's all about who sees who first, and when you're down players, you've got more targets to see than your opponents do.

  • 03.19.2012 11:54 AM PDT
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Reach.

Halo.

You gotta choose one folks.

  • 03.19.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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Terrible? Sorry, I'm a campaign guy, and firefight. 300,000 covies KIA, and Solo Legendary All Skulls On Deathless. Mythic, fool.
Reach is Halo. It has its won balance. I can adapt just fine. My issue is with the
MAPS
Answer me on THAT paragraph.

  • 03.19.2012 12:09 PM PDT

I only disagree with your opening SWAT statement. SWAT is one of the few game types that its actually a benefit to be on a smaller team, at least in a closed map like Swordbase. One shot kill equals more targets for you and your teammate. I'm pretty bad by the standards of this forum but I've given people a run for their money when I was the last guy on my team in a game of SWAT. Think got 20+ kills and the time ran out before they hit 50.

  • 03.19.2012 12:16 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: TheSilverhead
MAPS

Get forging, read this, and do something about it.

Btw mythic isn't anything special. Just means you've spent way too much time dumping way too much ammo into the derpy AI. Proclaiming your superiority over the covenant doesn't make you look good.

  • 03.19.2012 12:23 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: TheSilverhead

Reach is Halo. It has its won balance. I can adapt just fine. My issue is with the


No it doesn't. That's why 343 updated Reach. Clearly you can't adapt if you're complaining about them fixing Reach.

  • 03.19.2012 12:47 PM PDT

I'm confused are you defending Reach or attacking it?

And yeah, it's advantageous to be down players in SWAT.

[Edited on 03.19.2012 1:13 PM PDT]

  • 03.19.2012 1:12 PM PDT

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I'm defending vanilla Reach. I forge all the time, BUT, they choose stupid lame maps over good ones.

  • 03.19.2012 1:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheSilverhead
DEAL WITH IT. Reach is REACH. It is NOT HALO 3. Just let it be what it was meant to be. Stop complaining. Everything has a counter.
I seriously don't understand why people compare TU Reach to Halo 3. I see no similarity, other than the obvious facts that it's faster paced and better for competitive gameplay than Vanilla Reach.

Explain to me how TU Reach is similar to Halo 3. If you actually can, you'll be the first.

  • 03.19.2012 1:27 PM PDT

And you spawn on your carbine not the enemy's base.

  • 03.19.2012 1:46 PM PDT

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