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Bring Back Rocket Race!!!
Posted by: Dr Syx
Posted by: General Heed
Actually, I remember back when the first Halo 2 teaser was revealed. Everyone automatically assumed that Halo 2 would have a 2nd Halo ring involved. It was kind of obvious. The name "Halo 2" itself implies that there'd be a second Halo involved. And then with Halo 3, we all kind of guessed there'd be a 3rd Halo ring involved or at least have something to do with The Ark which was assumed to be on Earth before the game's release. However, after Halo 3, all subsequent Halo games were no longer about "Halo". Sure they introduced more backstory to the series, but it's no longer a "Halo" game anymore as we've come to know.Because they were focused on things outside of the main story arc of the games. That's why they had names like "ODST" or "Reach". Saying that there had to be some sort of Halo in Halo 2 pre-launch is by far worse logic than assuming there would be one in Halo 4. With Halo 4 we already know there are still many out there. In fact, I remember before Halo 2 came out most the people I talked to expected it to mainly take place on Earth.
Technically a jetpack is a thrustpack. They both work the exact same way. Plus, the jetpack in the Halo 4 trailer used the Halo: Reach jetpack sound effect. And the fact that sprint exists suggests they're bringing back the full set of armor abilities which is not Halo 2 gameplay. The thing shown in the trailer and jet packs do not work in the same way. Like I said, the thing in the Halo 4 trailer works in short bursts of energy, not for actual flight. There's a vast difference in the two. Also, the Reach jet pack sound was a placeholder. That was confirmed by Frankie on the NeoGAF forums.
There is absolutely no confirmation that they're bringing back armor abilities. Even if they were, there's nothing right now suggesting they would bring them all back. In fact, Frankie poked fun at that idea by posting a gif file of Master Chief finding someone in armor lock after ripping the blast door off in the trailer.
We're already starting to know a bit about Halo 4's story. The concept art trailer does give us a good glimpse. But so far, nothing indicates Halo 4 will be about Halo. Yes the Battle Rifle is back, but Halo 3 also had a Battle Rifle too. In fact, Halo 3 is basically the culmination, the peak of the Halo series. Do you remember the nostalgic feeling people used to get playing Halo 3? It was MEANT to be the final Halo game, so Bungie did a full circle and brought back a lot of stuff from Halo 1. They brought back all the Halo 1 and Halo 2 weapons into Halo 3 while introducing new weapons and equipment. But then in Halo: Reach, they took out everything. No more dual-wielding, no more equipment, and a limited selection of weapons compared to Halo 3. In facr, some used to consider Halo 3 to be the closest thing we had to a Halo 1 remake at the time. Several missions, especially the last level of Halo 3, were remakes of Halo 1 missions. The soundtrack of Halo 3 was a culmination of the entire Halo series featuring remakes and new tracks.
It's extremely obvious that Halo 3 was always meant to be the final Halo game, regardless of what 343 says about the story. Bungie intended the Halo series to end with a bang. Halo 3 delivered that bang. I suspect Microsoft asked Bungie to leave some room for 343 to start a new series instead of making sure no loose ends were left. Anyways, we'll see how Halo 4 is when it comes out. However, my prediction is that it will end up like Halo: Reach, not being able to deliver the same kind of experience that Halo 3 and all previous games delivered. The experience that keeps Halo 3 #1 Xbox Live game for 4 years while Halo: Reach's experience only kept it #1 for 1 week. First off, calling Halo 3 a remake of anything is absurd. Definitely of Halo: Combat Evolved. There weren't even many (I can't even think of one of the top of my head) remakes of original Halo: Combat Evolved multiplayer maps on that game except for the Chill Out one which was DLC. Halo 3 was it's own game and it was built for being the end of the original trilogy, not the end of the series in general. If it was built to be the end of the series completely they wouldn't have made the legendary ending the way it was and have Medicant Bias flat out say he's sending John to the forerunners. That's not a proper finish at all. In fact, if they finished on that, it would be worse than what they did with the ending to Halo 2. Then again, who would blame you believing this is a good way to end off the series. So obvious they weren't planning on doing anything more with it. No loose ends at all. Nope.
You're not informed enough about this to have a conclusion. In fact, a lot of your information is either speculation or completely wrong. Definitely saying it's going to be like Reach. People have been quoted as saying this is a spiritual successor to Halo 3 and they're focusing more on the style of gameplay found in the earlier Halos along with innovating on top of it.
Halo 3 wasn't the #1 Xbox Live game for 4 years. Call of Duty 4 beat it in player numbers after it launched the same year.
In the end, if you think it would have been best to leave it at Halo 3 and it had a proper ending for it, then leave it be. Pretend like it doesn't even exist. You're not being forced to buy the game so therefore you shouldn't start complaining about this sort of stuff. If you are actually looking forward to it then stop assuming such outrageous things without fully researching what you're studying. Going on things like it having all the armor abilities shows you've been listening to people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
If you kept up with Major Nelson's Xbox Live Activity List, Halo 3 managed to stay on top for almost 4 years until Modern Warfare 2 came out and the two games would constantly switch between 1st and 2nd place.
For Halo 2, you have to think as someone would've thought back then. All you've known was Halo 1 and now Halo 2 is coming out. We learn that Halo 1 is called Halo 1 because it's about a super weapon called Halo. That's why Halo is called Halo. Therefore, because that's the only information anyone had before Halo 2 came out, people assumed that because the way Halo 2 was named, it would have a Halo in the game. Halo 3 kept that tradition of actually being about Halo. That's why everyone assumed Halo 2 would have a Halo in it. But now, I'm just not so sure about Halo 4 anymore. And from a story writer's perspective, having Halo 4 be primarily about Halo again would cause the story to get old. There would've really be anything new to add about the Halo rings. Which is why I suspect the majority of the story if not all of it will be like Reach and ODST where it has nothing to do with Halo.
There is confirmation that Armor Abilities are being brought back. The "thrust pack" was already enough evidence, but if you watched the first look at Halo 4 and the behind the scenes videos, they show you what multiplayer gameplay looks like and from what I can tell, I saw armor abilities and Halo: Reach style gameplay. While I can't be positive, I suspect they are still using the Halo: Reach engine for Halo 4. I'd need to see more footage first though before I can be fully positive.
I said Halo 3 was "almost" the remake of Halo 1. You can't deny that a lot of the campaign is reminiscent of Halo 1. Before Halo Anniversary, Halo 3 was the closest thing we had to a remake. I'm just talking about campaign-wise though. Multiplayer changes in every game. Halo 3 as I've already said, was meant for the Halo series to conclude. Bungie themselves even said that they were under contract with Microsoft to produce two more Halo games. They could've produced a sequel to Halo 3, but they chose not to. My guess is that it was Bungie's belief not to extend the Halo story any further.
At the end of Halo 3, Mendicant Bias DOES NOT say he's sending Master Chief to the forerunners. That's just wild speculation. He said that he wanted to redeem himself by guiding Master Chief along the path and that he'd do his best to keep it stable. While it's not crystal clear what he meant, it most likely means that he'd try his best to keep the Halo ring stable while Master Chief was trying to escape during the Warthog Run.
All of my evidence is from the previous Halo games or the multiplayer reveal for Halo 4. Cause the Halo 4 multiplayer gameplay most definitely looks like Halo: Reach.