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Subject: Halo 4 First Look: Thoughts and Ideas

Hey guys!
As most of you already know, the new Halo 4 trailer came out a few weeks back. I'm really excited for the game! Tell me your thoughts and opinions on what you want to see and what you like about what you see in the trailer here. I remember a few months ago, having seen nothing but a CGI trailer, I was excited, but after having seen this, I am thrilled to know 343i is taking this seriously! I know this probably belongs on the 343i website or something, but I just want to know the opinions of Halo fans that still go around on these forums, like me :)

  • 03.19.2012 5:23 PM PDT

"Living in the past is a luxury none of us can afford..."
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Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.

  • 03.19.2012 5:34 PM PDT

Well, I guess heroes never die. Personally, I'm happy to see the Chief back, although it would be cool to have a game about, say the effects of the war or maybe a different character's perspective.

  • 03.19.2012 6:01 PM PDT


Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.

  • 03.19.2012 6:06 PM PDT

"Living in the past is a luxury none of us can afford..."
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.

  • 03.19.2012 6:21 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Uh, Precursors?

You have much too learn young manipular.

  • 03.19.2012 11:45 PM PDT


Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


No, that's not what Halo is.
Halo is about the legacy of the Forerunner-Flood War and the way different factions deal with that.

UNSC-Covenant War is just a part of that.
A part I'm glad to be "gone" now. Been there, done that in the past 10 years. Time to move on to new things within the Universe.
The Flood has barely been touched upon.
The Precursors are virtually unknown.
The Forerunners are just being exposed a bit.
etc etc.

  • 03.20.2012 2:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Uh, Precursors?

You have much too learn young manipular.


well said revan. . . well said

  • 03.20.2012 4:29 AM PDT


Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Adding onto what others have said, it may then come as a surprise to you that Bungie originally planned to do Halo 4, but their contract expired in one game. They knew H4 would be the first of a new series, so went with Reach and left it to 343i.

I don't think you understand just how big Halo is. The Covenant is a micro-cosm compared to what many refer to as the "true" Halo story.

[Edited on 03.20.2012 4:36 AM PDT]

  • 03.20.2012 4:36 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Um, i think the original conflict was whatever happened between the forerunners and precursors not 3,100,000 years.

We have seen it all? I haven't seen an actual forerunner yet meaning without armor and all the rates, haven't actually seen innes, We haven't seen nothing of Ancient humanity, we don't know crap about the precursors or the san shyuum.


You know you only know halo by the games when you say "They can't do much else".

  • 03.20.2012 6:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

It's looking surprisingly better than I thought it would, but for now, I'm still skeptical about it.

I would have preferred for the story to have ended with Chief drifting in space and thought to be dead.

  • 03.20.2012 8:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: HipiO7
It's looking surprisingly better than I thought it would, but for now, I'm still skeptical about it.

I would have preferred for the story to have ended with Chief drifting in space and thought to be dead.


Terminals, read em.

  • 03.20.2012 8:09 AM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: grey101
Posted by: HipiO7
It's looking surprisingly better than I thought it would, but for now, I'm still skeptical about it.

I would have preferred for the story to have ended with Chief drifting in space and thought to be dead.


Terminals, read em.


I know. I've read them all. Interesting reads, no doubt, but I still stand on the series being dropped there. Or at least for some time.

Unless you are talking about the Halo CEA terminals, which in that case, I haven't read any.

  • 03.20.2012 8:17 AM PDT

My friend in real life thinks the Forerunners are going to come through a portal or something and try to kill Master Chief, who he thinks will have gone insane and try to kill everyone. He clearly has never played Halo except for some Forge and Matchmaking at my place :P

  • 03.20.2012 1:05 PM PDT

As the Famous Philosopher Rick Astley once said: "Never going to give you up, Never going to let you go, Never going to turn around and desert you....."

it looks really good but i want to see dual wielding return and also a chance to pilot a falcon and or phantom and to be able to place them in forge.

  • 03.20.2012 2:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Rhys Williams
it looks really good but i want to see dual wielding return

I agree completely. Dual-wielding is a good feature and they should bring it back.

  • 03.20.2012 2:31 PM PDT
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Was I the only one dissapointed to see the BR return? Have we not moved on from having one God weapon?

  • 03.20.2012 3:05 PM PDT

You're right although Cryptum and Primordium revealed a lot we still don't know all that much about precursors or how the forerunners defeated them when they were supposed to be a far more advanced civilization, although they will reveal more with the final book of the forerunner saga.

  • 03.20.2012 3:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


No, that's not what Halo is.
Halo is about the legacy of the Forerunner-Flood War and the way different factions deal with that.

UNSC-Covenant War is just a part of that.
A part I'm glad to be "gone" now. Been there, done that in the past 10 years. Time to move on to new things within the Universe.
The Flood has barely been touched upon.
The Precursors are virtually unknown.
The Forerunners are just being exposed a bit.
etc etc.


We've seen the flood for 3 games, *spoiler alert* the last precursor was killed by the Didact (and it is more than implied that the precursors are one and the same with the flood), and the forerunners are dead so we probably won't see them as an enemy in Halo 4.

[Edited on 03.20.2012 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 03.20.2012 3:28 PM PDT

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"I know what the ladies like..."


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Adding onto what others have said, it may then come as a surprise to you that Bungie originally planned to do Halo 4, but their contract expired in one game. They knew H4 would be the first of a new series, so went with Reach and left it to 343i.

I don't think you understand just how big Halo is. The Covenant is a micro-cosm compared to what many refer to as the "true" Halo story.


You're right, but the way I see it, if Halo 4 really is gonna be like the original Halo games (gameplay wise) then no matter what people say, it's going to get old because we've been seeing this same gameplay for the past ten years. And if it's something comepletely new, then why even call it Halo?
Don't get me wrong, I love Halo's gameplay, but to me, and this is just my opinion here, story is far more important and I think the way that Halo 3 ended was perfect.
But who knows, maybe Bungie left Master Chief floating in space so that one day the story could go on.

  • 03.20.2012 3:32 PM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted.


A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


Adding onto what others have said, it may then come as a surprise to you that Bungie originally planned to do Halo 4, but their contract expired in one game. They knew H4 would be the first of a new series, so went with Reach and left it to 343i.

I don't think you understand just how big Halo is. The Covenant is a micro-cosm compared to what many refer to as the "true" Halo story.


You're right, but the way I see it, if Halo 4 really is gonna be like the original Halo games (gameplay wise) then no matter what people say, it's going to get old because we've been seeing this same gameplay for the past ten years. And if it's something comepletely new, then why even call it Halo?
Don't get me wrong, I love Halo's gameplay, but to me, and this is just my opinion here, story is far more important and I think the way that Halo 3 ended was perfect.
But who knows, maybe Bungie left Master Chief floating in space so that one day the story could go on.

Well, it's sort of like Halo CE, in that they left it a cliffhanger so that there COULD be a Halo 2, but if it bombed, it wouldn't mean there was going to BE a Halo 2. It was so popular, Halo 2 was created quickly. I haven't gotten tired of Halo yet, and I've played them all. Halo 3's ending was very good, but I knew that Bungie wouldn't let Halo die. I knew, that even though Master Chief was stuck in space, Halo would live on.

  • 03.20.2012 3:38 PM PDT

"Living in the past is a luxury none of us can afford..."
"I know what the ladies like..."


Yeah I guess I still haven't gotten over the fact that a new company will be taking the reins from now on. But seeing that 343 is seemingly trying to interweave both Halo literature and games more, it's going to be exciting to see how elements from the books finally make an appearance in game.

[Edited on 03.20.2012 3:43 PM PDT]

  • 03.20.2012 3:43 PM PDT


Posted by: spartanz_8

Posted by: DonVinzone1



Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: spartanz_8
Although I'm glad that the Halo universe has kept on going via books and other media, I'm kind of pissed that they won't let the chief rest. Even though I hated the fact that Chief was stuck in space, 343 continuing his story takes away from the power that Halo 3's ending had. I'd would've prefered to see games about the 20 plus years that the war lasted. [/quote]

A lot people, such as myself and many others I know, are glad we're done with the Covenant war. I'd prefer to not have to repeat the same thing for another 10 years.


That's what Halo is. Covenant vs. Humans. Seeing it from a different perspective would help getting rid of some blandness but true Halo will always be that which revolves around the original conflict. Anything other than that is not Halo, per say. Bungie understood this and decided to move on to a different game. Because think about it, what else can the Halo universe possibly throw at us? Forerunner robots? The Flood? Innies? Covenant? We've pretty much seen it all.


No, that's not what Halo is.
Halo is about the legacy of the Forerunner-Flood War and the way different factions deal with that.

UNSC-Covenant War is just a part of that.
A part I'm glad to be "gone" now. Been there, done that in the past 10 years. Time to move on to new things within the Universe.
The Flood has barely been touched upon.
The Precursors are virtually unknown.
The Forerunners are just being exposed a bit.
etc etc.


We've seen the flood for 3 games, *spoiler alert* the last precursor was killed by the Didact (and it is more than implied that the precursors are one and the same with the flood), and the forerunners are dead so we probably won't see them as an enemy in Halo 4.


Not completely true.

1) We have seen a small infection, compariable to a common cold next to the Flood's capabilities. What the Forerunners fought was something far, far worse then what we saw.

2) He was not the last Precursor, he said he was "the last of this kind," suggesting the Precursors were a multitude of races like the Covenant. Primordial was the last of his race.

3) The Forerunners have been confirmed alive since Halo 3. In fact, Halo 3 tells flat out that there will be a Halo 4. "I do once again betray a former
master. The path ahead is fraught
with peril. But I will do all I can
to keep it stable - keep you safe.
I'm not so foolish to think this
will absolve me of my sins. One life
hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know
that I have changed.

And you shall be my example."

--Medicant Bias, saying he will send you to the Forerunners, while also saying the universe is still in peril.

  • 03.20.2012 3:54 PM PDT

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Been playing Halo since 2001. I know my Halo.

I can't wait for Halo 4. Reach has been such a disappointment to me. With the return of the BR for H4 and what they've done with Reach in the Title Update, 343 has given me hope.

  • 03.20.2012 3:56 PM PDT

I am pleased to see there will supposedly be a greater emphasis on campaign than previously, and from what i can tell so far, multiplayer looks like it will be very decent.

  • 03.20.2012 4:20 PM PDT

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