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Subject: Why are DLC owners screwed because kiddies don't buy DLC?

Ever wonder what's up there?

(I'm not talking about the Anniversary map pack here)

Alright, hear me out. Back when the Noble/Defiant map packs came out, you needed to purchase them in order to have access to the new achievements, right?

Well, 343 showed mercy I guess and added via their TU all the achievements to anyone playing Reach, wether they had the map packs or not.

The only current Noble/Defiant achievement you can't get in Reach if you haven't purchased any DLC is the "You blew it up" one, since it has to be done in Breakpoint.

Now my question is: Isn't this a bit unfair for those who did spend the money to get the achievements and the Halo gamerscore back then?

Now I'm thinking that the reason we're not seeing any more all-DLC-required playlists today is because you need to be able to play in certain playlists to get certain achievements (i.e. getting a kill in Rocket Race in the Multi-Team playlist.)

But this makes little to no sense, since achievements like this required you to buy the Noble DLC in the first place!

How come DLC owners are screwed because the kiddies don't want to lose their opportunity of getting those free achievements they didn't pay for? We should have more DLC playlists available if you ask me. DLC maps are the best Reach can offer, and having people complaining over achievements they shouldn't have the opportunity to get on the first place is annoying.

What do you guys think about this?

[Edited on 03.20.2012 11:06 PM PDT]

  • 03.20.2012 11:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: angello22
We should have more DLC playlists available if you ask me.


Most of the DLC was a letdown and the people who have it don't even play Squad DLC due to its awful settings. Splitting the non-existent population further isn't going to help.

[Edited on 03.20.2012 11:11 PM PDT]

  • 03.20.2012 11:09 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Talk about settings. You can't play Anniversary maps without the 3sk pistol and bleedthrough; you can't play Noble/Defiant maps without Assault Rifle starts on Highlands and default Reach settings.

I don't really care about splitting any non-DLC population to be honest. Those who paid extra money to get the maps deserve something better. Playlists like Multi-Team or BTB should become exclusive for DLC owners so we can finally see some Breakpoint action. It's been ages since I last played in that map already.

  • 03.20.2012 11:24 PM PDT

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I remember when Halo 3 got a TU it was implemented to everything not just a few playlists and gametypes, ALL.

DLC was required in almost 40% of the playlists, and the good thing it worked fine.


In Halo Reach, TU is not really an update since 343i can choose what to update and what not.

DLC required playlist? Only anniversary and Squad DLC and "Super Slayer"

I just don't understand how hard to is for 343 to understand the majority of Reach gamers hate vanilla reach.

  • 03.21.2012 12:21 AM PDT
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lol the only reason I even bought noble was because I needed DLC for BTB.net matches.

And the maps were so bad, I would never pay for more again. Forcing people to buy the DLC would just reduce the population even more so than it already is.

  • 03.21.2012 12:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jose291
Halo 3's update was released a mere months after the game was released. Reach's TU didn't arrive until more than a year later.

And I thank 343 for not forcing that horrendous bleedthrough system into every playlists back in October. It would have been awful.

And for the record, I was lucky enough to enjoy vanilla Reach all the way until the TU was released. Ever since, I haven't played it all that much. But I'd really love to come back to be greeted by my purchased DLC now required in more playlists.

  • 03.21.2012 12:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: meagsIZbeast
Noble and Defiant maps are the most balanced ones you can get outside of Forge World.

[Edited on 03.21.2012 12:47 AM PDT]

  • 03.21.2012 12:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: angello22
Posted by: Jose291
Halo 3's update was released a mere months after the game was released. Reach's TU didn't arrive until more than a year later.

And I thank 343 for not forcing that horrendous bleedthrough system into every playlists back in October. It would have been awful.

And for the record, I was lucky enough to enjoy vanilla Reach all the way until the TU was released. Ever since, I haven't played it all that much. But I'd really love to come back to be greeted by my purchased DLC now required in more playlists.


Which made me think, that no one cared about Reach at all since day one of production.

TU fixed the famous "bloom" and AL.
My personal opinion AL should have been removed from the game.

In Vanilla Reach when you shoot someone with DMR, Pistol or NR all bullets hits everything but your enemy. Paced or not paced was the same.

Bleedthrough was the best thing there, no double pummels or deaths after shooting your whole clip of X weapon to your enemy.

DLC should be required in many playlist including BTB as how it is in Halo 3.

[Edited on 03.21.2012 12:48 AM PDT]

  • 03.21.2012 12:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: angello22
Posted by: meagsIZbeast
Noble and Defiant maps are the most balanced ones you can get outside of Forge World.


Breakpoint isn't balanced and the Defiant maps suck so much -blam!- that Tempest is probably the only 'balanced' map I enjoy playing.

  • 03.21.2012 12:59 AM PDT
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True story: I tweeted to bsangel (@bsangel) that I've never gotten Breakpoint in BTB, and she said "go into Matchmaking with friends who have the DLC then".

Lazy as hell.

  • 03.21.2012 7:16 AM PDT

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First off: achievements don't matter.

Second: all of the achievements that came out with Halo CEA must be done on Anniversary or Defiant maps only.

  • 03.21.2012 7:26 AM PDT
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Bungie had it right with DLC, 343i has been absolutely horrible dealing with DLC. I know I wont be buying any of it for Halo 4 because they screw the people who buy it.

The reason the squad dlc playlist fails is because of the vanilla derp settings. I refuse the play that playlist now because of it.

  • 03.21.2012 8:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: the pib
True story: I tweeted to bsangel (@bsangel) that I've never gotten Breakpoint in BTB, and she said "go into Matchmaking with friends who have the DLC then".

Lazy as hell.


What were you expecting to happen? She'd push a magic button and every match would be on Breakpoint? Heaven forbid after posting on B.net for a while you can't find 15 other people with DLC to play BTB with.

Lazy as hell.

  • 03.21.2012 8:26 AM PDT

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Protip: Requiring more playlists to be DLC required would probably actually make more people buy the map packs if they don't already own them.

If there is an incentive and a guarantee to play them in their favorite playlist, they will buy them.
However, right now there is very little guarantee that you will get your money's worth if you take the plunge, so potential buyers are hesitant after so long.

I know some people may only have one map pack, and some might have all three.
But it's really not fair that every one of them is screwed over because one guy who entered the match didn't bother to go beyond, causing only default and forge crap.

[Edited on 03.21.2012 8:31 AM PDT]

  • 03.21.2012 8:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: the pib
True story: I tweeted to bsangel (@bsangel) that I've never gotten Breakpoint in BTB, and she said "go into Matchmaking with friends who have the DLC then".

Lazy as hell.


What were you expecting to happen? She'd push a magic button and every match would be on Breakpoint? Heaven forbid after posting on B.net for a while you can't find 15 other people with DLC to play BTB with.

Lazy as hell.

The purpose of Matchmaking is to make the match for you. If you have to do it yourself, the system isn't working.

I suggested to her that 343 could split up the population of all playlists with DLC into DLC owners and non DLC owners, but she ignored that.

  • 03.21.2012 9:10 AM PDT

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  • 03.21.2012 9:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: WolfSpirit
Protip: Requiring more playlists to be DLC required would probably actually make more people buy the map packs if they don't already own them.

If there is an incentive and a guarantee to play them in their favorite playlist, they will buy them.
However, right now there is very little guarantee that you will get your money's worth if you take the plunge, so potential buyers are hesitant after so long.

I know some people may only have one map pack, and some might have all three.
But it's really not fair that every one of them is screwed over because one guy who entered the match didn't bother to go beyond, causing only default and forge crap.

This.

There's no incentive whatsoever to buy any current map pack aside from purchasing Halo CEA. It's kind of shameful that DLC turned to be this way to be honest.

  • 03.21.2012 6:05 PM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV

I'm not spending anymore money on this horrible game. Thanks though.

  • 03.21.2012 6:51 PM PDT

DMR + Sniper Rifle + Sprint= total demolish

They didn't add the anniversary to the achievements when i look at my Reach. But if i compare it with someone else who also doesn't have it they are randomly there...

  • 03.21.2012 7:16 PM PDT

/s

Why get the maps in the first place, when overall the game isn't as fun as the previous games.

[Edited on 03.21.2012 7:20 PM PDT]

  • 03.21.2012 7:19 PM PDT

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Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

lol, it's tards like you that vote 1 bomb breakpoint, forcing me to play hide and seek for 16 minutes because you realize you suck dicks at Halo.

  • 03.21.2012 7:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
lol, it's tards like you that vote 1 bomb breakpoint, forcing me to play hide and seek for 16 minutes because you realize you suck dicks at Halo.

Part of what made me create this thread was because of everyone still voting for default maps when DLC ones are available.

And 1 bomb Breakpoint back in the day has to be one of the funnest things I've played in Reach.

  • 03.21.2012 8:53 PM PDT

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When you give people the option to vote instead of veto for something else, they will vote for the same thing each time. I remember when I actually could tolerate the crappiness of this game and everyone voted elite slayer.

Needless to say I wanted to punch babies.

  • 03.22.2012 6:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
lol, it's tards like you that vote 1 bomb breakpoint, forcing me to play hide and seek for 16 minutes because you realize you suck dicks at Halo.


lol WOW

  • 03.22.2012 6:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: angello22
Why are DLC owners screwed because kiddies don't buy DLC?


Because the devs don't require more playlists to have them. Probably due to the fact that the games 99.999% social.

  • 03.22.2012 6:17 AM PDT

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