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Subject: Did the Needle Rifle live up to the Carbine replacements?

Roll the dice, try again.

I would say no. In halo 2/3 the Carb was much more fun and skillful to use since it didn't have bloom.

  • 03.22.2012 11:16 AM PDT

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I really miss the Carbine. :( The Needle Rifle doesn't fill the hole!

  • 03.22.2012 11:18 AM PDT

Carbine was much better.

  • 03.22.2012 11:27 AM PDT

lolnope.


Posted by: mcclintonsl
Carbine was much better.
It was one of my favorite guns to use. Why Bungie cut it, I'll never know. Blasted idiots I tell you. They made some severe mistakes in Reach.

  • 03.22.2012 11:40 AM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

H3 Beta Carbine was the greatest weapon that never came to be! Anyways I thought the NR was a decent replacement, but the Carbine is greatly missed.

  • 03.22.2012 11:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dark Martyr 117

Posted by: mcclintonsl
Carbine was much better.
It was one of my favorite guns to use. Why Bungie cut it, I'll never know. Blasted idiots I tell you. They made some severe mistakes in Reach.


The sole reason for Reach's covenant weapons being garbage, Bungie deemed that the previous weapons were too much of a pallet swap of their UNSC counterparts, so they needed to be different and special.

Then they preceded to contradict this statement and design and pit Elites up against Spartans in Invasion with their closest counterparts for weapons and were suddenly baffled when complaints started streaming on in.

Hmmm, could it be that this happened because all Covenant weapons require very unique niches to work properly but don't because those niches barely ever come up? And that almost all UNSC weapons have multiple functions and roles and are OP compared to Covenant weapons?

No, no it couldn't be that.

  • 03.22.2012 11:55 AM PDT

I never saw anyone ever use the carbine. Just saying.

  • 03.22.2012 11:57 AM PDT

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The Needle Rifle is alright, but it's not as good as the Carbine.

  • 03.22.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: InvasionImminent
I never saw anyone ever use the carbine. Just saying.

That's because the Battle Rifle was the more popular precision weapon to use in Halo 2 as well as in Halo 3. It's just like how the DMR is the more popular precision weapon to use than the Needle Rifle in Halo Reach.

[Edited on 03.22.2012 12:12 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2012 12:11 PM PDT


Posted by: mcclintonsl
Carbine was much better.

  • 03.22.2012 12:19 PM PDT

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Even though I really like the Needler Rifle, with no bloom it's super effective.

I like both equally.

  • 03.22.2012 12:35 PM PDT

In MM Carbine wins always, FF and Campaign? NR.

So Basically, Carbine is best for Human Players.

Needle Rifle is best for AIs.

EDIT: The best thing about the Carbine is it is a plasma weapon, meaning it was great for destroying shields, both AIs and in Matchmaking.

Also....It didn't bounce right of the jackals shield either!!

[Edited on 03.22.2012 12:38 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2012 12:35 PM PDT

I use the NR whenever I get the chance. I personally find it more accurate in bloom-infested playlists.

  • 03.22.2012 1:20 PM PDT

I think the needle rifle is a great replacement. If the target is 1shot then you only need 3 shots for a supercombine, pretty sure you need more than that for a kill if you're only getting body shots with the carbine.

  • 03.22.2012 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Martyr 117

Posted by: mcclintonsl
Carbine was much better.
It was one of my favorite guns to use. Why Bungie cut it, I'll never know. Blasted idiots I tell you. They made some severe mistakes in Reach.


Yup! You had a whopping 600 kills with the carbine out of a small 15,000 games! You obviously used it SOOO much! Bungie is such idiots man!

  • 03.22.2012 1:47 PM PDT

You are murdering the Grammar Gods right now.

  • 03.22.2012 1:49 PM PDT

Needle Rifle>H3 Carbine in every way.

[Edited on 03.22.2012 1:59 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2012 1:59 PM PDT

Except in how fast it drops shields (Carbine) and Jackals re your natural enemy when you are using it. (Needle Rifle)

[Edited on 03.22.2012 4:20 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2012 2:02 PM PDT

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I Do really like the needle I think its fun to use and blowing people up is always fun to when you put enough shots in them, But I do miss carbine Alot It was a Great Gun to use. It will always be up there on my list.

  • 03.22.2012 2:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Marathon
I would say no. In halo 2/3 the Carb was much more fun and skillful to use since it didn't have bloom.


No bloom huh? Have you used the TU Needle rifle even once...?

  • 03.22.2012 3:50 PM PDT

i HATED the carbine. BUT, i still liked it better than the Needle rifle

  • 03.22.2012 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Hunter21
I use the NR whenever I get the chance. I personally find it more accurate in bloom-infested playlists.

  • 03.22.2012 4:24 PM PDT

Just about every gun in Reach is a disappointment. The Needle Rifle is no exception.

  • 03.22.2012 6:36 PM PDT

Forget that man; how about them replacing the beam rifle with the all powerful focus rifle.

  • 03.22.2012 6:45 PM PDT

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