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yas334229812

Halo 4 could actually have forerunners as enemies.

Why?

Cause master chief will land there which no other beings have and he has no understanding of this place. He is an external being so an external threat.

This planet if houses forerunners may be built to kill all extraterrestrial life to keep the land protected and have no place for them to gain a foot hold.

The a.i's may be doing this job so the Chief may actually be mistaken for an external threat. He could cause sever dammages etc. Plus the cities above may be empty and desolate as everyone went inside. This destruction of the outer surface could accidently give the flood or any other enemies a chance to gain foothold on this planet.

The forerunner will also be trying to kick him out as it is to dangerous according for them to allow him to live, but also that he has done some sever damages to security systems that were done to keep himself alive. Vengence may be taken but in the end they will have to settle differences for a common enemy.

  • 03.23.2012 11:36 AM PDT

Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

  • 03.23.2012 11:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.

  • 03.23.2012 11:39 AM PDT


Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.

  • 03.23.2012 11:54 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

We're gunna be fighting teh battle toads.

  • 03.23.2012 11:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Actually, in Halo 4 we will be fighting crime.

Master Chief must head a Florida-based SWAT squad, where the team are wary about his origins...but will they trust their newfound leader when it matters most: in the middle of a drug-busting raid?

  • 03.23.2012 12:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.


Pfft.

343 isn't worried about Canon or existing Lore. Why do you think that they added those pathetic terminals to CEA? So they can retcon the Lore to fit their desires.

343 doesn't give a -blam!- about what has come before. they don't give a rat's ass about the Lore you've been following all of these years.

They'll change it however they please. going back to the Lore to try to figure out the future game is pointless now.

  • 03.23.2012 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Uriel S167

Posted by: Carolina

Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.


Pfft.

343 isn't worried about Canon or existing Lore. Why do you think that they added those pathetic terminals to CEA? So they can retcon the Lore to fit their desires.

343 doesn't give a -blam!- about what has come before. they don't give a rat's ass about the Lore you've been following all of these years.

They'll change it however they please. going back to the Lore to try to figure out the future game is pointless now.

I lol'd. I hope this guy is trolling.

  • 03.23.2012 2:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina

Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.


Pfft.

343 isn't worried about Canon or existing Lore. Why do you think that they added those pathetic terminals to CEA? So they can retcon the Lore to fit their desires.

343 doesn't give a -blam!- about what has come before. they don't give a rat's ass about the Lore you've been following all of these years.

They'll change it however they please. going back to the Lore to try to figure out the future game is pointless now.


trolololololololol

  • 03.23.2012 2:17 PM PDT

yas334229812

I was expecting some feedback.

  • 03.24.2012 9:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: risay_117
I was expecting some feedback.


Feedback on what? What are we supposed to discuss? We know now that the Forerunners are the enemies and it's pretty clear why.

  • 03.24.2012 9:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: risay_117
I was expecting some feedback.


Feedback on what? What are we supposed to discuss? We know now that the Forerunners are the enemies and it's pretty clear why.

Really and what is it. I do not know. There are many reasons and some may not be used.

  • 03.24.2012 10:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Uriel S167

Posted by: Carolina

Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.


Pfft.

343 isn't worried about Canon or existing Lore. Why do you think that they added those pathetic terminals to CEA? So they can retcon the Lore to fit their desires.

343 doesn't give a -blam!- about what has come before. they don't give a rat's ass about the Lore you've been following all of these years.

They'll change it however they please. going back to the Lore to try to figure out the future game is pointless now.

I don't know about you guys but I agree.

The forerunner trilogy had no basis from the development of Halo 1-3. Sure there's vague references in the terminals of Halo 3 but not enough for a new saga.

However, the forerunner saga is done well, there are stories in it worth reading. But you're being naive if you think 343i won't change anything as they please. The above poster is right.

  • 03.24.2012 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: ninjakenzen
The forerunner trilogy had no basis from the development of Halo 1-3. Sure there's vague references in the terminals of Halo 3 but not enough for a new saga.


The basis is clearly there. The story of the Forerunners, their technology litters the galaxy and is the premise of which the whole series is built on. Plenty of ground to cover for the Forerunner Trilogy, since the details are few (originally appearing in the Halo 3 Terminals) there is a lot of room for the writers to make a whole new part of the Halo universe.

you're being naive if you think 343i won't change anything as they please. The above poster is right.

They've changed absolutely nothing [yet], only added layers to the already established [vague] story. The CEA Terminals and Forerunner Trilogy are an exemplary piece of Halo fiction that stays 100% true to canon, which is less than what can be said for the other pieces of media.

  • 03.24.2012 10:24 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I don't understand how in the hell we are going to fight forerunners seeing as All of their armor is far more advanced than the Marks we got and can preform far better. Not to mention that Each are has an AI that is better than Cortana and they could instantly Hack MC's suit- engagement over.

Not to mention the fact they use light weaponry and machines that make scarabs look like barbies. How the Hell is master chief going to survive if he doesn't get A Forerunner suit and a substantially upgraded cortana?

I am not going to Leave the haloverse with that all being said but i will seriously shake my head if they nerf the forerunners for a sake of a trilogy, how they hell are they a threat to the universe or Evil? Not to mention they have no reason to fight a tier one 3 (and upcoming) Tier 2 race if they are clearly now tier zero.


I didn't even get to the part about Prometheans being large as a great white is long and dozens of other things. The plot would only be good if we were fighting faber's Faction of builders as a side enemy. Still wouldn't explain nearly everything else.

  • 03.24.2012 12:43 PM PDT

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Master Chief won't last 1.78 milliseconds against Forerunners, for sure. Their light beam weapons are some way, much more powerful than any UNSC or Covenant weapon. Unless, he gets Forerunner-enhanced shields or Forerunner weapons to actually increase his survivability from 0.2% to 24.98%.

So...

  • 03.24.2012 1:03 PM PDT

so perhaps chief has gotten upgraded armour for fighting the forerunners. However i don't believe that forerunners will be the next enemy but that the covenant will still be there,that the sentinels will be there (including the super sentinels which needs to come back) and a whole new type of enemy. But i still do think that the forerunners will be in halo 4,5&6 but not as the main enemy. Perhaps you will get to fight 1 or 2 as a boss fight?

  • 03.24.2012 1:54 PM PDT

how would the forerunners be involved? they'd only be holograms, or robots or something, not living, they killed themselves when they activated the rings, and didn't clone themselves for backups, so they couldn't be, unless 343 decide to ignore the halo story...

  • 03.24.2012 2:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkrelica189
how would the forerunners be involved? they'd only be holograms, or robots or something, not living, they killed themselves when they activated the rings, and didn't clone themselves for backups, so they couldn't be, unless 343 decide to ignore the halo story...


Er... the it has been known since 2007 that the Forerunners didn't die.

  • 03.24.2012 4:12 PM PDT

I heard The Covenant will also be returning, but there will be an enemy far more powerful than them. This new enemy could be the forerunners, but they are definitely a lot more powerful than John 117, so it would be interesting to see how he plans to defeat them.

  • 03.24.2012 8:06 PM PDT

Where did you get this info?

It seems plausible, but I still have doubts.

Forerunner architecture can be found in concept art, one forerunner gun (unknown type) and a forerunner multiplayer map are all confirmed.

  • 03.24.2012 8:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina

Posted by: risay_117

Posted by: Carolina
Cool theory, now we just need 343i to confirm the enemy.

There was a leak of a magazine saying that it would be forerunners now just need to find the link.
Cool, can't wait to see how it fits canon.


Pfft.

343 isn't worried about Canon or existing Lore. Why do you think that they added those pathetic terminals to CEA? So they can retcon the Lore to fit their desires.

343 doesn't give a -blam!- about what has come before. they don't give a rat's ass about the Lore you've been following all of these years.

They'll change it however they please. going back to the Lore to try to figure out the future game is pointless now.


You know, I somewhat agree with this. I've been worried for a while now that 343i may change everything, the Terminals in Halo: CEA and the Halo 4 trailer realy drove that in.

I know that some are Bungie employees but I think, especialy after Halo: Reach, that many will want to craft an entirely diffrent game. On second though, I know they will. They confirmed CoD-style perks are still in the game at this late-stage.

[Edited on 03.24.2012 8:48 PM PDT]

  • 03.24.2012 8:46 PM PDT

I get the feeling that if Forerunners are to be the villains in Halo 4 that we would not be fighting Prometheans like we fight Elites. Instead, I believe we will be fighting some other enemy (more on par with Chief than a Forerunner) that represents the "ancient evil" and has come about (come to power, awakened etc) as a consequence of Forerunner schemes. To me, using the Forerunners as a main combat enemy would be lazy and canonically difficult to pull off... And there's no way we've seen the last of the Flood.

My $0.02

  • 03.24.2012 9:33 PM PDT
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Forerunner Light Weapons, even ones on Elephant sized or tank sized vehicles are capable of destroying cities.

MC doesn't stand a chance.

  • 03.24.2012 9:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Arbiter 739
You know, I somewhat agree with this. I've been worried for a while now that 343i may change everything, the Terminals in Halo: CEA and the Halo 4 trailer realy drove that in.


Wow...

Do explain how CEA's Terminals did anything to change the established story? It's about 343 Guilty Spark's time on Installation 04 for the 100,000 years following the firing of the Halos, there is absolutely no detail whatsoever in the Terminals which conflicts with established canon.

And likewise with the Halo 4 trailer, I'm not sure which you're talking about so I'm going to go through all of them.

1) The reveal trailer at E3 was a non-canonical CGI teaser and the assets it portrays are only to show what things might look like in the game. In reference to this, I bet you're going to mention the armour... Well they've said that there's going to be an explanation for it, but I didn't hear you whining about your worry that Bungie was going to change things when they massively changed the Arbiter's armour from Halo 2 to 3 (somehow it changed colour, sprouted a flashlight and mandible guards).

2) The concept art trailer was... concept art - and therefore to be taken with a grain of salt for what they represent. Yet they perfectly pulled off the Forerunner aesthetic with that and are clearly putting a lot of effort into keeping the vibrant settings that were in the other Halos before Reach.

3) The recently released ViDoc shows how 343i are saying that they're going to keep the classic Halo feel, and it's pretty clear that they're not lying. Bloom is gone, the BR is back, etc. It's got a much more classic feel to it mixed with sprinting and a new equipment system.

For gameplay, change is the norm in order for these games to galvanise themselves and be fresh. 343i is doing exactly what Bungie did by changing up the formula a bit whilst the core of the experience is the classic Halo feel.

So at what point in these videos did you somehow get the feel that 343i are going to "change everything"?

I know that some are Bungie employees but I think, especialy after Halo: Reach, that many will want to craft an entirely diffrent game. On second though, I know they will. They confirmed CoD-style perks are still in the game at this late-stage.

Sigh... You don't pay attention to what they say, do you? Yes, 'perks' are in it but Frankie said that it's not at all like what is in Call of Duty. You're too quick to jump to conclusions on things you know nothing about.

  • 03.25.2012 3:53 AM PDT

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