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Subject: Why do people hate Reach?

I reckon it has the best multiplayer out of all the Halo games. All the weapons seem to be evened out and have a counter weapon so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3, it's not boring with the new Armor abilities, the audio sounds fresh. TBH, the only bad things about the game is the ranking system and Armor Lock, and even these two things aren't that big a deal IMO.

  • 03.25.2012 1:59 AM PDT
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Lag. BKs on your team against a full party of Inheritors with 2.00+ K/Ds. AL. Lame maps.

Things like those.

  • 03.25.2012 2:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ferox Elite
so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3


lol

  • 03.25.2012 2:05 AM PDT

Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Ferox Elite
so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3


lol


What? That was hella OP.

[Edited on 03.25.2012 2:09 AM PDT]

  • 03.25.2012 2:08 AM PDT


Posted by: EpicDuck1336
Lag. BKs on your team against a full party of Inheritors with 2.00+ K/Ds. AL. Lame maps.

Things like those.


I've never experienced lag on Reach lol, and it's rare to get matched with a full party of Inheritors, and only half the maps are terrible.

  • 03.25.2012 2:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Ferox Elite
so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3


lol


LOL

  • 03.25.2012 4:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ferox Elite

Posted by: EpicDuck1336
Lag. BKs on your team against a full party of Inheritors with 2.00+ K/Ds. AL. Lame maps.

Things like those.


I've never experienced lag on Reach lol, and it's rare to get matched with a full party of Inheritors, and only half the maps are terrible.


"Only half the maps are terrible" The OP can't be serious. Great argument.

  • 03.25.2012 4:00 AM PDT

Well.

Armor lock

Bloom

No Bleed-through

Lag

Quit Ban

Ranking system

AR Majority Votes

Elite Slayer Majority Votes

  • 03.25.2012 8:57 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

Try hards and whiners

Grenade spammers

Pure boredom

  • 03.25.2012 9:02 AM PDT

"War is the science of destruction."

Armor Abilities, Bloom, Lag, Ranking System.
Just to name a few.

  • 03.25.2012 9:08 AM PDT
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*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

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Personally, I think Halo Reach is a magnificent game, but I suppose people tend to cling to the past. Gamers have become spoiled in what they receive.

  • 03.25.2012 9:17 AM PDT

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I don't hate Reach dude. In fact, I consider it the best Halo Bungie ever made.

[Edited on 03.25.2012 9:20 AM PDT]

  • 03.25.2012 9:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ferox Elite
Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Ferox Elite
so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3


lol


What? That was hella OP.


Do you even play Reach? If you did you would know how OP quite a few of the weapons are.

  • 03.25.2012 9:42 AM PDT
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Reach is a good game, these guys just trolling. And yes the BR was pretty overpowered, it won over any weapon it fought in a match. DMR isn't the best rifle, I prefer it since I can long shot across the map no scoping in SWAT. Plus forge is way better. People who say its boring need to go play something else then, Bungie/343 ain't doing -blam!- to change it since H4 is coming, nothings wrong with the game, just the players.

Usually this is how I play:

Matchmaking:

In order of what I prefer

W/FRIENDS:
SWAT
Snipers
Rumble Pit
Invasion
Living Dead
Grifball
BTB

W/O FRIENDS:
Rumble Pit
Living Dead
SWAT
Anniversary FFA

Customs:

W/ FRIENDS:
Forge
Customs Maps/Gametypes

W/O FRIENDS:
Forging

As you can see I have a variety when a play, not one specific area. I have played every halo, and reach to me has more replay value, but I do miss h2.

The only issues I have in reach:

Armor lock repetition/spam

Armor lockers going in and out of AL like in less than half a sec. Really stupid because they can survive a rocket/shotgun/sword/melee/headshot/etc. That's the real problem with AL, not just using it.
( Note, I rarely use AL, main AA is sprint/evade. )

Vanilla DMR Bloom

This is already fixed but only in title update, but I prefer Vanilla over TU. Wish you could have options in custom games so you can have like a enable/disabled option for TU settings.

Sword Bulltrue BS
Any one that plays Infection/Grifball, knows about this.
Pretty Much you get a bulltrue as you die. WTF? That's not what a bulltrue is for.

Grifball Carrier "Ghosting" / Invulnerability
This goes with the Sword again. Pretty much your facing the Ball Carrier and right before he goes to the score plate, you lunge at him with your sword, you get the kill, but the bomb still goes off. WTF? Also, when facing the ball carrier with the sword, you pull it out ready to lunge, you do, he kills you and he has no health and shields. He's still in that state when another guy lunges, same scenario, that guy dies, ball carrier keeps going. That's really a WTF? solution.

Solutions [Probably the best]

Armor Lock repetition:
Easy, add a 1/2 second to a second delay when you can use it again. I mean armorlock, is a good AA, just still has some flaws, TU settings made it less OP'ed.

Sword Bulltrue BS:
Not so easy fix, It has to deal with lag, but it might be the sword block, not sure, but I think it involves really timing, maybe just adding a delay in the sword lunge when the "kill" arrives.


Grifball Carrier "Ghosting" / Invulnerability
That is for sure just sword blocking whether on the ball or the sword, maybe both. Grifball needs TU settings.

Any way as I said, Reach isn't boring or bad, just the a lot of the players. I have more fun on reach then any other game, and I have BF3 and MW3.

  • 03.25.2012 9:43 AM PDT

Watch your shebs, vod.

I believe Halo 3 was the best of the multiplayer.
There was a covenant-unsc equivalent for everything, there was no bloom because your a freaking spartan, AAs weren't there, although I believe sprint should just be default, sword fights didn't end in both players dying, and health regenerated.
Equipment made the game a lot more fun than AAs, and dual-wielding was in.
The vehicles were fairly balanced(minus hornet, gauss hog).
Vehicles were actually worth using.
Banshee wasn't OP.
Maps were better.
No falling damage.
Better ranking system.
Better ragdolls.
Better camo.
An AR that could kill.

Reach is interesting, I'll give em that, but I think they may have strayed just a little bit too far from the Halo fun formula.
I still play Reach and enjoy it, but if the Halo3 servers were in their prime all I'd play Reach for is the customs.

  • 03.25.2012 10:50 AM PDT

because its different from Halo 3 and people cried when they found out their strategies had to change. i think its a great game!

  • 03.25.2012 10:53 AM PDT

There are many reasons.

But the simplest and truest reason is that the game is not as much fun as its predecessors. Gameplay is considerably more random, the pace of the game is all over the place and the mechanics almost force players into using selfish tactics to do well in the game.

  • 03.25.2012 11:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: rj is cool
Well.

Armor lock

Jetpacks

Active Camo

Bloom

No Bleed-through

Lag

Ranking system

AR Majority Votes

Elite Slayer Majority Votes

Terrible shield/health system

No more Squad Slayer



FTFY


One of the things that irks me most is if you have around 70%-90% shield strength and full health, a grenade still -blam!- kills you.

[Edited on 03.25.2012 11:50 AM PDT]

  • 03.25.2012 11:50 AM PDT

Reach has a great multiplayer and campaign, so I can't see why anyone would hate it. The only bad things I see about it are the annoying armor lock and some of the maps are drab.

  • 03.25.2012 11:56 AM PDT

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People who dislike reach:
>are bad at it.
>Want it to be H3/H2/H1
>Can't adapt.

  • 03.25.2012 12:14 PM PDT
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Because if Master Chief, the Battle Rifle, speed walking, etc isn't in the game. Many people will get mad. I do find it annoying that people who hate it come on the forums and bash it. I can't tell if they're trolling or just plain stupid.


TL;DR Halo has to be the exact same thing every time or it sucks, k?

  • 03.25.2012 12:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: jammyjames888
People who dislike reach:
>are bad at it.
>Want it to be H3/H2/H1
>Can't adapt.


So much stupidity....

  • 03.25.2012 12:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Ferox Elite
so that there is no one overpowered weapon like the BR in Halo 3


lol


Cruise conTROLLin'.

0/10.

[Edited on 03.25.2012 12:28 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2012 12:26 PM PDT

I <3 Halo:Reach - amazingly fun and best campaign + amazing Soundtrack
I <3 Halo 3:ODST - best soundtrack + Firefight + Coastal Highway and Mombassa Streets, amazingly unique campaign.
I <3 Halo 3 - best multiplayer levels + Forge + best Custom Games + soundtrack
I <3 Halo 2 - amazing huge fun campaign + soundtrack + Fun multiplayer
I <3 Halo: CE - started it all

LOL when people say this game has lag.
Go play your beloved Halo 3 kids, then come back to Halo:Reach and say that.

I truly despise Armorlock, and on the default bloom. 80% bloom is better in my opinion, and should have always been that way. Doesn't mean I hate the game. MUCH more pros then cons.

[Edited on 03.25.2012 12:37 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2012 12:37 PM PDT