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Ok folks, a lot of you are goin about talkin about the forerunners as if it was a species. I see a lot of misuse of the word and i get the strong impression that there are those who just talk with the jargon they are clueless about. There was some guy who had the genius insight of "the forerunners did not refer to themselves as forerunners" as if he was onto something.
The forerunners of course did not call themselves the forerunners. Just as the forefathers of our nation of course did not call themselves the forefathers.

"forerunner" is a generic term used to describe people who pave the way for other people to succeed.

So, when you blabber on about humans being the forerunner, it is a straight conflict of definition. If humans were indeed the forerunner, then by definition humans were just the people who set up the system for other people/species to actually use and benefit from. The forerunners are long gone. Assuming humans are forerunner is just assuming something fundamentally impossible.

However, GS refers to MC as a reclaimer, which presents MC/human race as the ones who will use this system that was built by some other group.

In short-
"Forerunner" requires 2 roles- the precursor, and those that the precursor precurses to.
Humans cannot be the precursor for themselves
The builders of the halos cannot be the same as the beneficiaries (otherwise there would only be runners that were still around)

  • 05.28.2006 2:48 AM PDT
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and if anyone mentions that humans made the halos, died, and then re-evolved in the exact same way, they deserve to get a fuel rod in the eye.

  • 05.28.2006 2:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThePBM
and if anyone mentions that humans made the halos, died, and then re-evolved in the exact same way, they deserve to get a fuel rod in the eye.

They built the halos, Died then evolved in a diffrent way or hid in the Arc. Your first post is wring to.

  • 05.28.2006 3:21 AM PDT
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Yes but in many instances forerunner is being used as a collective term to describe the race (whether human or not) the built the halos etc...

We are given no other name for them, so unless you can think one up with your intellectual superiority, stop -blam!-ing about the misuse of the word and get over it.

/thread.

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Monitor: The installation was specifically built to study and contain the
Flood. Their survival as a race was dependant upon it. I am grateful to see
that some of them survived to reproduce.



quote from halo 1 in referince to the forrunners well talking to MC.......... how bout that

  • 05.28.2006 3:54 AM PDT

The race is called the Forerunner. Everyone knows it's a word too.

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
The race is called the Forerunner. Everyone knows it's a word too.


Why does it have to be a race? Forerunner is just a role.
I mean it's like saying the covenant is a race.

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Posted by: OR4N63 151
Monitor: The installation was specifically built to study and contain the
Flood. Their survival as a race was dependant upon it. I am grateful to see
that some of them survived to reproduce.



quote from halo 1 in referince to the forrunners well talking to MC.......... how bout that


i don't recall GS ever using the word forerunner.

  • 05.28.2006 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
The race is called the Forerunner. Everyone knows it's a word too.


do you have a quote of the forerunners actually ...oh, wait, the control room. cortana:
...all right, i can't find the quote on halopedia. ill check wikipedia.

nope not there. when you put her into the control room computer, cortana says halo was built by the forerunners

  • 05.28.2006 1:00 PM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

Posted by: ThePBM
Posted by: OR4N63 151
Monitor: The installation was specifically built to study and contain the
Flood. Their survival as a race was dependant upon it. I am grateful to see
that some of them survived to reproduce.



quote from halo 1 in referince to the forrunners well talking to MC.......... how bout that


i don't recall GS ever using the word forerunner.


true

  • 05.28.2006 1:01 PM PDT

Halo CE......(sigh) the good ol' days......

“Go, stranger, and to Lacedaemon tell that here, obeying her behests, we fell.”

Monitor: The installation was specifically built to study and contain the
Flood. Their survival as a race was dependant upon it. I am grateful to see
that some of them survived to reproduce.

what that kid meant was that after he says flood he switches topics to the forerunners as if it was in the back of his mind but failed to make a transition, its acceptable because he has been on the ring for 100,000 years or more therefore its possible he drove himself somewhat insane and probably lost all social skills, hence not having transitions, besides unless the forerunner were an intergalactic race of super hippies why would they preserve some of the race they were trying to kill simply because they didnt want them to become extinct?

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the humans made the halos, died, and re-evolved in the same exact way.

/sarcasm

i personaly think that the humans were the ones chosen by the forerunners to be put into the arc to be saved from the halo detination. therefore my logic is that the humans are the oldest of all the races in the galxy, and they were meant to reclaim the empire the forerunners once held

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The "Forerunner" thing is good dude, but i want to know if we will ever see Commander Keys or Sarg. Johnson or the Arbitor. Because from what I've heard about halo 3, it sounds like its going to be focused strictly on the battle for Earth and the Artifact.........that, i think needs clearing up.

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who the F&*#% cares!!! It really doesn't matter that much and we wil find out in due time when they release the next game!!! So sit ur fat @$$ down and sit back and enjoy the ride!!! ur all a bunch of little pu$$y nerds who care too much about a game!!!

Trust me i am just as excited about anybody about Halo 3, but we will find out all this info later... so just freakin' stop worryin' about this crap!!!

  • 05.28.2006 3:10 PM PDT

Halo CE......(sigh) the good ol' days......

“Go, stranger, and to Lacedaemon tell that here, obeying her behests, we fell.”

Posted by: CrazyDude696
who the F&*#% cares!!! It really doesn't matter that much and we wil find out in due time when they release the next game!!! So sit ur fat @$$ down and sit back and enjoy the ride!!! ur all a bunch of little pu$$y nerds who care too much about a game!!!

Trust me i am just as excited about anybody about Halo 3, but we will find out all this info later... so just freakin' stop worryin' about this crap!!!


heres a question if you just want to sit along for the ride and wait for the game to come out cuz you just dont care about what happens, then why the hell are you on this forum in the first place???

  • 05.28.2006 3:45 PM PDT

I'm blue da ba di da ba dai!

Im just given my opinion. Well GS use the word reclaimer for MC and reclaimer is a real word also is forerunner so my guesse is that they didnt called them self the forerunner it was just a term like reclaimer.

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Lmao, he used the word pu$$y nerd...That is -blam!- funny. And he is true. The Halo Universe is not real. I love how some people likestudy this -blam!- to try and find out some secret that they truely believe in. Who are the Forerunners...who gives a -blam!-...wait for the game to release. In the mean time...go outside.

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Posted by: mmm_ARVO
the humans made the halos, died, and re-evolved in the same exact way.

/sarcasm

i personaly think that the humans were the ones chosen by the forerunners to be put into the arc to be saved from the halo detination. therefore my logic is that the humans are the oldest of all the races in the galxy, and they were meant to reclaim the empire the forerunners once held


umm... have you seen how humans evolved... it's not just BAM there was the humans ( watch T.V more it's not all junk )

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Posted by: xc ACE 01
Lmao, he used the word pu$$y nerd...That is -blam!- funny. And he is true. The Halo Universe is not real. I love how some people likestudy this -blam!- to try and find out some secret that they truely believe in. Who are the Forerunners...who gives a -blam!-...wait for the game to release. In the mean time...go outside.


You are telling him to go outside... look who's on the computer inside the house telling some other guy to go outside when your inside being what you are... a Jack@$$

  • 05.28.2006 4:08 PM PDT

Halo CE......(sigh) the good ol' days......

“Go, stranger, and to Lacedaemon tell that here, obeying her behests, we fell.”

ace and crazy dude are both walking hypocrites

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Posted by: Tubman42
ace and crazy dude are both walking hypocrites


...no I'm not just a little...mad...at some things

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Posted by: ThePBM
and if anyone mentions that humans made the halos, died, and then re-evolved in the exact same way, they deserve to get a fuel rod in the eye.


Humans are forerunners. I don't give a crap about the "conflict of definition".

some of them survived to reproduce after making and activating the Halos.


its a frekin game. c'mon.


This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. If humans built the halo systems, and then activated it, and some survived to reproduce, you're pretty much saying those that survived just totally forgot about the halos somehow.

Seriously, if humans built something like the halos, i'm pretty sure it's not something that would be forgotten. The only explanation on why humans didn't know squat about the halos was because they either died out (back to square one) or humans weren't the ones that built it (makes more sense)

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Posted by: Tubman42
Posted by: CrazyDude696
who the F&*#% cares!!! It really doesn't matter that much and we wil find out in due time when they release the next game!!! So sit ur fat @$$ down and sit back and enjoy the ride!!! ur all a bunch of little pu$$y nerds who care too much about a game!!!

Trust me i am just as excited about anybody about Halo 3, but we will find out all this info later... so just freakin' stop worryin' about this crap!!!


heres a question if you just want to sit along for the ride and wait for the game to come out cuz you just dont care about what happens, then why the hell are you on this forum in the first place???


i am on this forum because i enjoy playing halo and conversing with people....
but i am not someone who sits in the dark all day playing video games on my xbox and on the computer...

some of you guys need to go outside and get a life..

you guys worry way to much about some little game... that is the point i was trying to illustrate earlier.... we will find out all the answers to halo in due time and instead of making crazy statments we can sit down, relax, and wait for them to come to us... because you guys are never going to solve the problem... all you can make are guesses...so how about this.. SHUT THE F*&% UP!!!

[Edited on 5/29/2006]

  • 05.29.2006 12:55 PM PDT
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... i am scared of the dark... i think.... and quick sand... but other than that....nvmnd

If Homosapiens were truely the "Forerunners" why doesn't anybody in the Halo-verse remember the secrets. I am pretty sure there would be some secrets passed from Generation to Generation that were remembered. It is not like the Irish people in Family guy who were super intelligent until they discovered beer, although that might have something to do with it.


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