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Subject: Should Halo 3 have been the final Halo game?

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Poll: Should Halo 3 have been the final Halo game?  [closed]
Yes:  56%
(20 Votes)
No:  44%
(16 Votes)
Total Votes: 36

If you all remember back in 2006, there was so much hype surrounding Halo 3 since it was meant to be the last Halo game in the trilogy. It was *supposed* to be the epic conclusion to the series, much like how Mass Effect 3 is supposed to be the final game to the trilogy. But as we all know, Microsoft and Bungie wanted to seize the oppurtunity to make more money on Halo and they gave us ODST and Reach. Soon, we'll have a whole new trilogy, Halo 4, 5, and 6. And who knows? Maybe there'll be more spin-offs to come.

So my question is, do you guys think that the Halo series should've ended at Halo 3? No more Halo games (except for PC ports) after Halo 3?

  • 03.26.2012 7:24 PM PDT

Yes. I hate when series get drawn out. End with a bang, and let it die.

  • 03.26.2012 7:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: jgman676
Yes. I hate when series get drawn out. End with a bang, and let it die.


I agree. With the new Halo trilogy (Halo 4, 5, and 6), I'm not sure how they'll make those games feel like Halo games.

The point of "Halo" games is to save the galaxy from a super weapon that wipes out all life in the galaxy, known as the Halo Ring or Halo Array. The story behind the Halo rings was wrapped up in Halo 3. I don't see what the new Halo trilogy could possibly be about. More than likely, it'll just use the name Halo to attract a large audience when the story of the trilogy has little to do with the original main story of Halo.

  • 03.26.2012 7:57 PM PDT

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  • 03.26.2012 9:02 PM PDT

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Yes. Halo 3 had a perfect ending but because Micro$oft wants the munniez, they make more and more due to its popularity. The same thing will happen to 343, they'll get bored of making halo and micro$oft will just hire another group of halo fanboys. 343 is feeding a baby that is full.

  • 03.26.2012 9:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
Yes. Halo 3 had a perfect ending but because Micro$oft wants the munniez, they make more and more due to its popularity. The same thing will happen to 343, they'll get bored of making halo and micro$oft will just hire another group of halo fanboys. 343 is feeding a baby that is full.


Actually, 343 is an internal game studio within Microsoft. It was formed by Microsoft. So when Microsoft determines that Halo isn't popular anymore and not worth their time, they'll shut down 343 and cease all Halo merchandise. 343 is not an independent game studio though. Their only task is to make Halo games.

  • 03.27.2012 4:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: jgman676
Yes. I hate when series get drawn out. End with a bang, and let it die.

I agree end it and then everyone will play multiplayer until a better game comes. You do not have to add a prequel however I liked ODST not really Reach though. I will most likely still be found on Halo 3's multiplayer even when Halo 4 is released.

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nope i still want a remake of Halo 2, a proper remake

  • 03.27.2012 9:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: path1k
nope i still want a remake of Halo 2, a proper remake

  • 03.27.2012 9:30 PM PDT
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It's actually best the way it's going right now, in my opinion. I know a few people who are treating Halo 3 as the end of the story because they would rather it that way and because Bungie isn't working on it. People who do want it to continue, however, have that with 343 Industries.

Either way, no use in complaining about Halo continuing. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Treat it as though it simply doesn't exist. You can have what you want while also letting others have what they want. Don't act like you're being forced to purchase it. :P

Halo continuing with a team of >300 highly qualified developers while Bungie gets to create new universes is great in my opinion. I'm hyped to see what all comes out of this. If Halo 4 - 6 are bad then oh well. I'll just remember and cherish the original trilogy as though they're the only Halo games to exist.

Posted by: General Heed
Actually, 343 is an internal game studio within Microsoft. It was formed by Microsoft. So when Microsoft determines that Halo isn't popular anymore and not worth their time, they'll shut down 343 and cease all Halo merchandise. 343 is not an independent game studio though. Their only task is to make Halo games.
If you watch this, they talk about how they're hoping to eventually make 343 Industries the greatest game developer in the industry. To me that suggests that Microsoft is using Halo as a foothold to propel 343 Industries into becoming the dominating game developer in the industry with Microsoft as the producer. That would mean they'll probably leave Halo at some point.

[Edited on 03.28.2012 12:01 AM PDT]

  • 03.27.2012 11:25 PM PDT

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Halo 4 will be better than Reach. If it's not, then 343 failed hard. Halo 2 was by far, the best in the series. If anything, Halo 2 should have been the last.

  • 03.28.2012 6:11 AM PDT

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ITT: Ignorant people who clearly never paid attention to Halo 3.

Halo 3 tied up 1 plot point - the Human-Covenant war. There are about half a dozen plot points that are unresolved. For example, the Flood is still very much out there on the other Halos (6 of which are still primed and ready to fire) and the Gravemind states that the destruction of Installation 04B is not the end for him. Therefore the Flood has only been temporarily delayed.

Plus it's almost like everyone is saying how much they love and appreciate Halo 3, yet never bothered to actually look into the deeper aspect of the story - the Terminals. In the last one, Mendicant Bias states that he's sending John to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement. This alone (the revelation that the Forerunners are still alive) is enough to fill another trilogy...

So no, anyone who says that Halo 3 was "the end of the story" should be hung, drawn and quartered for their complete misunderstanding of the Halo universe and should not inflict their uninformed opinions on the fanbase.

Posted by: Dr Syx
It's actually best the way it's going right now, in my opinion. I know a few people who are treating Halo 3 as the end of the story because they would rather it that way and because Bungie isn't working on it. People who do want it to continue, however, have that with 343 Industries.

Either way, no use in complaining about Halo continuing. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Treat it as though it simply doesn't exist. You can have what you want while also letting others have what they want. Don't act like you're being forced to purchase it.


This guy has it absolutely right. In terms of story, Halo has reached its highest point right now. The Forerunner Saga has added a whole new dynamic to the Halo universe and pushed the series about as close to hard sci-fi as it's going to get and the fact that the Reclaimer trilogy is directly based off of the consequences of this is clearly a push in the right direction.

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ITT: Ignorant people who clearly never paid attention to Halo 3.

Halo 3 tied up 1 plot point - the Human-Covenant war. There are about half a dozen plot points that are unresolved. For example, the Flood is still very much out there on the other Halos (6 of which are still primed and ready to fire) and the Gravemind states that the destruction of Installation 04B is not the end for him. Therefore the Flood has only been temporarily delayed.

Plus it's almost like everyone is saying how much they love and appreciate Halo 3, yet never bothered to actually look into the deeper aspect of the story - the Terminals. In the last one, Mendicant Bias states that he's sending John to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement. This alone (the revelation that the Forerunners are still alive) is enough to fill another trilogy...

So no, anyone who says that Halo 3 was "the end of the story" should be hung, drawn and quartered for their complete misunderstanding of the Halo universe and should not inflict their uninformed opinions on the fanbase.

Posted by: Dr Syx
It's actually best the way it's going right now, in my opinion. I know a few people who are treating Halo 3 as the end of the story because they would rather it that way and because Bungie isn't working on it. People who do want it to continue, however, have that with 343 Industries.

Either way, no use in complaining about Halo continuing. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Treat it as though it simply doesn't exist. You can have what you want while also letting others have what they want. Don't act like you're being forced to purchase it.


This guy has it absolutely right. In terms of story, Halo has reached its highest point right now. The Forerunner Saga has added a whole new dynamic to the Halo universe and pushed the series about as close to hard sci-fi as it's going to get and the fact that the Reclaimer trilogy is directly based off of the consequences of this is clearly a push in the right direction.


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  • 03.28.2012 11:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
ITT: Ignorant people who clearly never paid attention to Halo 3.

Halo 3 tied up 1 plot point - the Human-Covenant war. There are about half a dozen plot points that are unresolved. For example, the Flood is still very much out there on the other Halos (6 of which are still primed and ready to fire) and the Gravemind states that the destruction of Installation 04B is not the end for him. Therefore the Flood has only been temporarily delayed.

Plus it's almost like everyone is saying how much they love and appreciate Halo 3, yet never bothered to actually look into the deeper aspect of the story - the Terminals. In the last one, Mendicant Bias states that he's sending John to the Forerunners as proof of his atonement. This alone (the revelation that the Forerunners are still alive) is enough to fill another trilogy...

So no, anyone who says that Halo 3 was "the end of the story" should be hung, drawn and quartered for their complete misunderstanding of the Halo universe and should not inflict their uninformed opinions on the fanbase.

Posted by: Dr Syx
It's actually best the way it's going right now, in my opinion. I know a few people who are treating Halo 3 as the end of the story because they would rather it that way and because Bungie isn't working on it. People who do want it to continue, however, have that with 343 Industries.

Either way, no use in complaining about Halo continuing. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Treat it as though it simply doesn't exist. You can have what you want while also letting others have what they want. Don't act like you're being forced to purchase it.


This guy has it absolutely right. In terms of story, Halo has reached its highest point right now. The Forerunner Saga has added a whole new dynamic to the Halo universe and pushed the series about as close to hard sci-fi as it's going to get and the fact that the Reclaimer trilogy is directly based off of the consequences of this is clearly a push in the right direction.


You forget what Halo was originally meant to be. And the whole foreunner saga was added much later after Halo 3 came out. The entire story of Halo 4 and the entire background to it was just tacked on to the series after it was mostly wrapped up.

The Gravemind admitted defeat in Halo 3 after Master Chief activated Installation 04b. Even if there still are flood on the other Halo rings, they have nothing to infect as long as the Covenant and UNSC don't unlease the flood again like the Covenant did back in Halo 1. The flood spores have no way to get off the ring, let alone survive in space and travel millions of light years to planets with sentient life.

The Halo Arrays are NOT primed and ready to fire anymore. At the end of Halo 2, Guilty Spark stated that they were ready for "remote activation" from The Ark. That means 2 things. One, the rings are not prepared to fire at anytime, rather they are just in a "standby mode" (offline, but ready at a moment's notice). Two, the Ark was pretty much destroyed by the explosion of Alpha Halo. That means, as Guilty Spark stated, the only means of remotely activating the Halo Rings has been destroyed. The only way left to activate the Halo Rings is to do it locally on the ring itself. The UNSC would never do that, and obviously the Covenant aren't interested nor physically capable of doing that.

The Halo Story as started in Halo 1, has been completely wrapped up in Halo 3. There are really no missing bits left. The Legendary Ending of Halo 3 was the only mystery remaining. Everything else was added on much later. All the original Halo books written up to Halo 3 have also been covered. Halo 3 is the definitive ending to the original Halo series. This new Reclaimer Trilogy is more of a whole new story and will most likely be loosely based on the original series. Much like how Call of Duty: Modern Warfare series is not based on the original WWII series of CoD games.

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Posted by: General Heed

The Gravemind admitted defeat in Halo 3 after Master Chief activated Installation 04b.
It wasn't a permanent one.

"Defeat is simply the addition of time to a sentence I never deserved... but you imposed."

Now it has been established that the Flood choose who to infect and that the ancient humans survived because they submitted to it. But even then, there was no true known way to defeat the Flood.

So there is another mystery that H3 did not close: how to stop the Flood for good.

Cortana: "But you did it. Truth and the Covenant, the Flood... it's finished."
Master Chief: "It's finished."

This is not closure. This is speculation. Chief even hints that he'll be needed again.

  • 03.29.2012 3:22 AM PDT

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Should it have been the last Halo game?
No. The story is too good to not go on.

Should it have been the last Halo game - In hindsight, because of the last 2 lackluster offerings?
Yes.
ODST was ok, but just ok.

Reach..... I can not understand why they did what they did.
So disappointing.

  • 03.29.2012 9:32 AM PDT


Posted by: Cobravert
Should it have been the last Halo game?
No. The story is too good to not go on.

Could not agree more. IMO halo has the best story of any video game ever, I don't know what it is but I love it. I don't care how bad halo4 is along as they don't -blam!- up the story I will be happy.

  • 03.29.2012 9:53 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: path1k
nope i still want a remake of Halo 2, a proper remake

  • 03.29.2012 11:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: path1k
nope i still want a remake of Halo 2, a proper remake


Yeah, I agree. Halo 2 was ruined, a remake from scratch or equivalent to Halo CE: Anniversary would be good :)

  • 03.29.2012 12:10 PM PDT

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No.
If Halo 3 were the last Halo, we wouldn't have ODST. Reach and Halo Wars didn't really seem necessary.

  • 03.29.2012 1:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: General Heed

The Gravemind admitted defeat in Halo 3 after Master Chief activated Installation 04b.
It wasn't a permanent one.

"Defeat is simply the addition of time to a sentence I never deserved... but you imposed."

Now it has been established that the Flood choose who to infect and that the ancient humans survived because they submitted to it. But even then, there was no true known way to defeat the Flood.

So there is another mystery that H3 did not close: how to stop the Flood for good.

Cortana: "But you did it. Truth and the Covenant, the Flood... it's finished."
Master Chief: "It's finished."

This is not closure. This is speculation. Chief even hints that he'll be needed again.


But according to Guilty Spark, the flood was completely wiped out by the Halo rings. The only reason why the problem came up again is because the Forerunners chose to keep some remaining specimens and samples of the flood for study. Much like how we still keep small pox safely stored away. However, containment failed and the flood was released.

It's a bit confusing whether the Halo rings actually destroy the flood. In Halo 1, Cortana said the rings kill the food source of the flood causing them to starve and die. However, Halo Legends and the Halo Anniversary terminals as well as Halo 3 state otherwise.

It was also established that the ancient humans found a cure to the flood and were capable of eradicating the flood. Halo Anniversary terminals also confirmed that.

I will agree though that not every single flood was wiped out after Halo 3. I highly doubt the Gravemind brought every single flood form with him to the Ark. There could also be some other flood left on other Halo Rings. However, based on the concept art for Halo 4, it does not seem like the Flood will be back in Halo 4.

  • 03.29.2012 6:06 PM PDT

On the topic of the flood:

I haven't played in awhile but correct me if I'm wrong:

Halo 4 is blown up, all the flood on that ring is eradicated.

The halo in Halo 2 has a gravemind due to an ancient outbreak, and is constantly at combat with the sentinel wall. That gravemind eventually escaped and claimed high charity.

A cruiser lands on earth containing flood, but the flood is eradicated via glassing.

High Charity also lands on the ark, but it is destroyed by the installation firing prematurely, thus destroying itself, and I believe the gravemind that was on it.

The only possible way for the flood to return is for another outbreak to happen on one of the rings. Even then, they couldn't do anything without significant biomass to create another gravemind.

[Edited on 03.29.2012 6:23 PM PDT]

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