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Subject: 1. Alpha Halo...2. Delta Halo...3???
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because in military terms delta is a fall back location.

  • 05.29.2006 9:26 PM PDT

Posted by: spesalfred
Which sounds better, Alpha Halo, Beta Halo, Gamma Halo, Delta Halo, Epsilon Halo, Zeta Halo, Eta Halo...or.... Alpha Halo, Bravo Halo, Charlie Halo, Delta Halo, Echo Halo, Foxtrot Halo, Golf Halo....
Neither sound that great. I doubt bungie would throw in a Zeta Halo or a Golf Halo. Perhaps bungie never planned for us to visit all 7 halo's, so they just picked out random names that sounded best. How else do you justify instillation 04 being named Alpha, and instillation 05 being Delta? I have a stong feeling that most of the halo's will go unmentioned. Further proof of this is the Monitors.
The monitor of instillation 04 is 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of instillation 05 is 2401 Penetient Tangent. 343 is 7^3, and 2401 is 7^4, so the monitor's number is 7 to the power of the instillation number minus one. Meaning the monitor of instillation 01, is 7^0 or 1, and the monitor of instillation 07 is 7^6 or
117649. I am assuming we won't ever meet them, since their numbers would be cumbersome and sound odd.


You could be correct on the names being to cumberson, however, as a military force knowing of 7 Halos in existance, they would have given them names whether we visit them or not. So in that case, it would make sense for them to name the Halos is some reasonable fashion, rather than just random, or what sounded good.

  • 05.29.2006 9:32 PM PDT
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Perhaps the letter designation is determined by where, on an Earth Naval chart, the halo is in space, such as what quadrant it's in. The numbers are the designations from the Forerunners.

  • 05.29.2006 9:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: spesalfred
Which sounds better, Alpha Halo, Beta Halo, Gamma Halo, Delta Halo, Epsilon Halo, Zeta Halo, Eta Halo...or.... Alpha Halo, Bravo Halo, Charlie Halo, Delta Halo, Echo Halo, Foxtrot Halo, Golf Halo....
Neither sound that great. I doubt bungie would throw in a Zeta Halo or a Golf Halo. Perhaps bungie never planned for us to visit all 7 halo's, so they just picked out random names that sounded best. How else do you justify instillation 04 being named Alpha, and instillation 05 being Delta? I have a stong feeling that most of the halo's will go unmentioned. Further proof of this is the Monitors.
The monitor of instillation 04 is 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of instillation 05 is 2401 Penetient Tangent. 343 is 7^3, and 2401 is 7^4, so the monitor's number is 7 to the power of the instillation number minus one. Meaning the monitor of instillation 01, is 7^0 or 1, and the monitor of instillation 07 is 7^6 or
117649. I am assuming we won't ever meet them, since their numbers would be cumbersome and sound odd.


You could be correct on the names being to cumberson, however, as a military force knowing of 7 Halos in existance, they would have given them names whether we visit them or not. So in that case, it would make sense for them to name the Halos is some reasonable fashion, rather than just random, or what sounded good.


In the Halo Universe, I am sure they all go along with one of the two alphabets, be it Greek or Military, and make sense as to why 04 is Alpha and 05 is Delta, but I think Bungie just used the ones that sound good for the ones we will see.

  • 05.29.2006 9:45 PM PDT
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Perhaps the letter designation is determined by where, on an Earth Naval chart, the halo is in space, such as what quadrant it's in. The numbers are the designations from the Forerunners.


343 called 04 installation Alpha, which means that Alpha and Delta are Forerunner designations.

  • 05.29.2006 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: CONAN9845
Perhaps the letter designation is determined by where, on an Earth Naval chart, the halo is in space, such as what quadrant it's in. The numbers are the designations from the Forerunners.


343 called 04 installation Alpha, which means that Alpha and Delta are Forerunner designations.


If you are correct in saying that 343 called installation 04 Alpha, (I can't remember him ever saying Alpha, but I may be wrong), then we may want to take a look at the meanings of the words Alpha and Delta, as they may be rough translations into english by 343 of Forerunner words.

  • 05.29.2006 10:03 PM PDT
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Omega Halo. Think about it, it's the ark, the end of everything, including the series

  • 05.29.2006 10:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Midship
Omega Halo. Think about it, it's the ark, the end of everything, including the series


Why have you designated Omega as the Ark?

  • 05.29.2006 10:09 PM PDT
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If you've got some time... I would strongly suggest checking out the website www.haloarchives.net A great website. Amongst a greatly made library of sorts, are found some well supported theories about some humans knowing about the halo rings before the Autumn "accidentally" came upon it. Takes time to go through the one guy's theorys. I personally think he's stretching on some points, but over all he's done a great job.
Using his Ideas as inspiration, I'd say that "Installation 04" and "Installation 05" (as 343 guilty spark refers to them) are the rings' Forunner names. Alpha Halo and Delta Halo are their Human names. What the Covenant call them is probably something else.
So... Installation 04 is the fourth ring in the set of seven, as dictated by the forunners. Installation 05 is the 5th.
Humans on the other hand probably DID name them based on the order of being found. It doesn't say anywhere that humans (especially ONI agents) don't know of other Halos. As Angry_Bacon says, Alpha Halo was already known about for some time, which is why Threshold and Basis already had names. Alpha Halo was in Uncontrolled space, not Unexplored.

  • 05.29.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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This is just a thought... But...Maybe Alpha and Delta signify the series of Halos. Maybe there are 7 Alpha Halos and 7 Delta Halos.

  • 05.29.2006 10:25 PM PDT

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No, there are only 7 halo's total.

  • 05.29.2006 10:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThePBM
someone refresh my memory, when was alpha halo first called alpha halo?


It wasn't.

Well, there is the section on the back of the Conversations from the Universe booklet.


Posted by: opogjijijp
someone refresh my memory, when was alpha halo first called alpha halo?

I think it was first called Alpha Halo by Jason Jones. In the games it was first called Alpha in Halo 2, by 343 guilty Spark.

This mining facility predates Installation Alpha by several hundred years. It was retrofitted to research possible offensive and defensive measures against the Flood. Indeed, I designed and oversaw the construction of this facility's various outbreak management systems.


So, taken from that, are we to assume the Original Halo we landed on is installation Alpha just because the mining facility was so close to Reach?

[Edited on 5/29/2006]

  • 05.29.2006 10:36 PM PDT

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In the opening cutscene for halo 2, don't they show the destroyed halo, and label it alpha halo?

  • 05.29.2006 10:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: spesalfred
No, there are only 7 halo's total.


A wise man once told me that, "Facts are written in mud on rainy days." Just because someone or something says it's a fact one day does not mean it will be a fact tomorrow. So. In theory. When we stop Delta Halo 05 from firing. Shouldn't we see only six rings in the hologram. After all Alpha Halo 04 has been destroyed. Looking at it from a military viewpoint. It makes just as much sense. After all, there is more then one Alpha Company or Charlie Company. Plus, if I remember correctly, a similar view in Halo CE only shows 5 rings. But I could be wrong there. Guess I have to play Halo CE again.

  • 05.29.2006 10:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: spesalfred
In the opening cutscene for halo 2, don't they show the destroyed halo, and label it alpha halo?


Maybe they did. I can't remember.. What is Monitor 343 doing on Alpha Halo? 2401 seems to be at the right place.. Or maybe he's at the wrong place? Didn't we fans come up with something that placed 343 (7^3) on a specific ring, and 2401 (7^4) on Delta Halo?

I guess humans could just be labling them based on the order they find each ring?

[Edited on 5/29/2006]

  • 05.29.2006 10:43 PM PDT

Yes, the pattern of the Monitor number is seven raised to the power of installation minus 1. 7 ^(intallation number - 1).

And if they base it on the order that they found each ring, there must be 2 other Halos that we know about (or atleast their locations), Beta Gamma Halos.

If ONI does not know their locations, then maybe after determining there are 7 Halos, they went ahead and named them all. If that is the case, then it does not make sense why 04 is Alpha, and 05 is Delta.

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  • 05.29.2006 10:46 PM PDT
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well now there's only 6 halos cause we all blew up that first one we landed on

  • 05.29.2006 10:48 PM PDT

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Well, 343 does like to hitchhike..

  • 05.29.2006 10:49 PM PDT

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Yeah, how exactly is that going to play out if the halo's are activated?

  • 05.29.2006 10:49 PM PDT
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nobody has yet answered my question about whether we're assuming or not that every single halo has contained flood

  • 05.29.2006 10:51 PM PDT

Posted by: spesalfred
Yeah, how exactly is that going to play out if the halo's are activated?


Well if all Halos need to be active in order to be activated by the Ark, then I'm not sure how it will work out. But if each Halo is activated seperatly, or can still be activated by the Ark without all 7 Halos active, then I assume there will be an area in the galaxy were the Flood could still survive, given that setinent life will not be killed there.

  • 05.29.2006 10:53 PM PDT

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nobody has yet answered my question about whether we're assuming or not that every single halo has contained flood


If the Flood is a weapon, then I would guess so.. I still have this crazy idea that the Flood and Rings are weapons to keep us from spreading..

  • 05.29.2006 10:55 PM PDT

It depends on if each Halo has a Library. The Library would containe Flood infection forms for research.

  • 05.29.2006 11:17 PM PDT
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Latin:

Alpha-1 Military terms minnor threat

Beta-2 Military terms significant threat

Gamma-3 Military terms immediate action

Omega-4 High threat level (war may be imminent)

Delta-5 Usually the last squad sent before considering "the final option"

  • 05.29.2006 11:49 PM PDT

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