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has anyone wlse realized how much hate and division is going on, on bungie.net (rhetorical question)? It seems inevitable that a persons thread or post is flamed by another member. Why? We're all here because we have one thing in common, we all love Halo and other Bungie games. Why cant we celebrate that similarity and just get along? It really ruins the theme of the net to see people flame on another. I dont expect things to change overnight but lets all just keep this in mind, lets all just start thinking about our fellowship on this site. I hope this thread doesn't get flamed.

  • 05.29.2006 7:37 PM PDT
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"Whatever exists, whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent. These anonymous creatures may seem little or nothing in the world. Yet the smallest crumb can devour us. Any smallest thing beneath yon rock out of men's knowing. Only nature can enslave man and only when the existence of each last entity is routed out and made to stand naked before him will he be properly suzerain of the earth."

Simple:

People are jerks. I'm a jerk. You're a jerk. Everyone's a jerk.

Ya jerk.

Real answer:

Partially because this statement:
We're all here because we have one thing in common, we all love Halo and other Bungie games.

Isn't true, and partially because some people are jerks by nature, and enjoy being so.

[Edited on 5/29/2006]

  • 05.29.2006 7:42 PM PDT

Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
You people have just sent my sides into orbit. A bunch of MLG try hards sucking the dick of some supposed pro half the thread hasn't even heard of. Classic.

Don't forget you also have a huge influx of new members who think that it is fun to act that way on a forum. Hope that helps, you jerk. ;)

  • 05.29.2006 7:43 PM PDT

Skillet was here and referred to himself in the third person.

I don't like flaming either...but sometimes a good flame is what you need to get a certain point across.

And we all knoew that flames can sometimes take care of those even lame-r spammers out there.

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every one on this site is a bungie game fan, wether you like halo, marathon, myth, oni etc... that is a similarity which unites us and should prevent wide spread flaming

  • 05.29.2006 7:44 PM PDT
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"Whatever exists, whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent. These anonymous creatures may seem little or nothing in the world. Yet the smallest crumb can devour us. Any smallest thing beneath yon rock out of men's knowing. Only nature can enslave man and only when the existence of each last entity is routed out and made to stand naked before him will he be properly suzerain of the earth."

Posted by: MAC 720
every one on this site is a bungie game fan, wether you like halo, marathon, myth, oni etc... that is a similarity which unites us and should prevent wide spread flaming


Not entirely true, as you are going to get the inevitable person who comes to a public forum for the simple purpose of "wrecking up the joint."

Even if it were true, that doesn't go very far. Some people come here simply because they don't like someone, and want to make that person miserable. Why do you think we have spammers (a.k.a. trolls)?

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Yeah i noticed bungie has had a lot of flaming. Its unaviodable with so much going on right now. I personally hate flaming and avoid it. But yes there are jerks out there who are so convinced that their ideas are right they call people dumbasses and other choice words. Oh well life sucks.

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clarification- when some one spams or says something really really dumb and you say "wow, your a real idiot" thats not "flaming". When some says "i think cortana was trying to tell the MC that...." and you reply "wow you -blam!- stupid -blam!- a im gonna kill you for being such an idiot you -blam!-in piece of -blam!-! -blam!- you!!!!" Thats what im talking about (by the way i WROTE all those blams out)

  • 05.29.2006 8:03 PM PDT
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Some people just don't respect anyone elses opinion so they have to be buttheads about it.

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People are who they are, there's no changing them. I wish life weren't as simple as that but...

  • 05.29.2006 8:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: djsmom
Some people just don't respect anyone elses opinion so they have to be buttheads about it.
Well that's because some of the people here can't even formulate a decent opinion. Who am I to judge right? Don't confuse certain people acting like a jerk with lack of maturity. I think some members are too young. And I know there's that small percentage of young mature members so don't bring it up. But whatever, I was young when I joined. I was probably annoying too.

Back to the original topic. If a person flames or a jerk, flame back. Not in a mean or rude tone, but just state why you dissagree. I've seen to many "blam"s often. That just shows you're both immature. A well written response is a well eduacated post. Ignoring is also an option, that and private messaging a moderator. They're here for a reason.

  • 05.29.2006 8:28 PM PDT
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"Whatever exists, whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent. These anonymous creatures may seem little or nothing in the world. Yet the smallest crumb can devour us. Any smallest thing beneath yon rock out of men's knowing. Only nature can enslave man and only when the existence of each last entity is routed out and made to stand naked before him will he be properly suzerain of the earth."

You mean don't flame back, right EL? That falls under the "Two wrongs don't make a right" clause.

  • 05.29.2006 8:32 PM PDT

MY XBOX DIED THAT'S WHY.

dont be haten no more

I love this kid...

:D

And I totallly agree.

;)

  • 05.30.2006 12:23 AM PDT
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Not everyone here is a fan of Bunige. Early this morning before I went off to bed, there was a guy who made a thread here in the Septagon saying 'BUNGIE SUCKS! 'YOU'RE ALL N00BS!' and other immature snide comments. Unfortunatley people dissagree, but there is no need to flame to resolve something.

Apart from a rare occasion...*cough*

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  • 05.30.2006 3:53 AM PDT
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Just conflicting interests. I am a Bungie fan like 90% of the people here but I hate 90% of peoples suggestions.

The Halo 3 forum makes me sick to my eyes but I still want Halo 3 as much as they do.

  • 05.31.2006 10:15 PM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

"Where is the love?"

*hums song*

I think the forums would be better if everyone just, "Got it." I remember a long post by recon a while ago, comparing HBO to Bungie.net, but I can't find it...

Edit:FOUND!

I really think Recon should copy and paste this into an article like his rant on The Other N-Word. Put it in his sig even. It changed my outlook on Bungie, and I think it could change others too.

[Edited on 6/1/2006]

  • 06.01.2006 11:36 AM PDT

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Chapter

Narwhallace Smithington: Gone, but not forgotten. Never approve of anything lil guy. <3
Furious George: The new -blam!-

People all over the world,
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Start a love train,
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  • 06.01.2006 11:41 AM PDT

I agree and I wish that everyone could get along. Unfortunatly there are so many attention seekers on these forums that it is an impossible dream alas. As for people flaming me I usually send them a pm and ask them if they thought is was neccesary in a polite way, 9 times out of 10 they apologise and sometimes even edit their post. there is still a small minority who reply with something like "ZOMG your teh nubiest nub on here, -blam!- off and di you nub" all i can do is wait patiently and hope that eventually the ninjas will shut them down and or subject them to a severe hippo licking.

[Edited on 6/1/2006]

  • 06.01.2006 1:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: MAC 720
We're all here because we have one thing in common, we all love Halo and other Bungie games.

i'm just here for the bud light

  • 06.01.2006 2:11 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Keep in mind that to alot of the members who flame think they are smarter or have a better opinion then the person they are flaming.

Then the person flamed fights back.

And so on.

So its kind of like an endless cycle.

[Edited on 6/1/2006]

  • 06.01.2006 2:50 PM PDT

Posted by: MAC 720
has anyone wlse realized how much hate and division is going on, on bungie.net (rhetorical question)? It seems inevitable that a persons thread or post is flamed by another member. Why? We're all here because we have one thing in common, we all love Halo and other Bungie games. Why cant we celebrate that similarity and just get along? It really ruins the theme of the net to see people flame on another. I dont expect things to change overnight but lets all just keep this in mind, lets all just start thinking about our fellowship on this site. I hope this thread doesn't get flamed.


Ah, see, the problem with you is, you see the world as being filled with both the good people, and the bad people. There has been, and always will be, just the bad people, only some of them are on differing sides.

Flaming will always be around, and there's not much you can do about it. We can sit around and complain about it all day, or go and try to do something and we'll end up with about the same result: we'll have expended about as much effort as an elephant running a 5 minute mile, and get about as much done as a snail*.

*Unless you have real, tangible power, which about, oh, say 14 people actually have. Give or take. Even then, you can only stop as many as you can smite, and there's a lot of smitees to be smitten and you only have so much smiting time to be smiting.

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What I don't understand is why people care about this kind of stuff on a forum

But because you asked; There's good people theres bad people. They both like to piss each other off and they do it in their own little ways. Then a mod comes along, deals with the tard and moves on to the next little twat. Everlasting cycle.

  • 06.01.2006 5:04 PM PDT

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My opinion:

People are jerks...the best way to prevent a Flame war is either

A) Don't fight back
B) Don't start one
C) Don't get involved in one
D) Ultimately report it to a moderator

  • 06.01.2006 5:09 PM PDT
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Report flaming to mods and ignore the flamers and trolls.

  • 06.02.2006 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
You mean don't flame back, right EL? That falls under the "Two wrongs don't make a right" clause.
Yeah, I got Flame and Argument mixed up. Some debates are fun to be a part of on here. But flaming is just throwing insults.

  • 06.02.2006 9:54 PM PDT

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