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Subject: Video card- which one should I get?
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Posted by: staticx576
I highly suggest you read up on intel's conroe, not only will it generally be cheaper it should out perform the current AMDs(all of them) by a fairly big margin. http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713& p=2

With the prices as follows:
Core 2 Duo E6300(1.86Ghz) $209
Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13Ghz) $244
Core 2 Duo E6600(2.40Ghz) $316
Core 2 Duo E6700(2.67Ghz) $530


Great, if all that is true, then I might go intel for the first time in many years.

But:

1. They are *at least* 6 months away.

2. I highly doubt the prices will be that low.

3. Its not unknown for some tests to be a bit biaised, to say the least.

If intel suddenly release a processor that beats AMD for gaming, and is also a price match, then I'll be happy, but TBH I just cant see it happening. I hope its true, because it will also stop AMD from being so complacant.

Waiting 6 months when you need a pc now tis a bit daft, based on nothing concreate.

  • 05.31.2006 12:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: Minjita
Posted by: staticx576
I highly suggest you read up on intel's conroe, not only will it generally be cheaper it should out perform the current AMDs(all of them) by a fairly big margin. http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713& p=2

With the prices as follows:
Core 2 Duo E6300(1.86Ghz) $209
Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13Ghz) $244
Core 2 Duo E6600(2.40Ghz) $316
Core 2 Duo E6700(2.67Ghz) $530


Great, if all that is true, then I might go intel for the first time in many years.

But:

1. They are *at least* 6 months away.

2. I highly doubt the prices will be that low.

3. Its not unknown for some tests to be a bit biaised, to say the least.

If intel suddenly release a processor that beats AMD for gaming, and is also a price match, then I'll be happy, but TBH I just cant see it happening. I hope its true, because it will also stop AMD from being so complacant.

Waiting 6 months when you need a pc now tis a bit daft, based on nothing concreate.


They come out in july, not 6 months from now.

  • 05.31.2006 12:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

faster and cheaper...now tell me why you would buy a current AMD system.

  • 05.31.2006 1:30 PM PDT
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Well 20% is alot especially for the money your saving. Yea only 20%, I'd say thats a considerable amount. I'm an AMD fanboy, but that doesnt mean im stubborn enough to buy one if the Intels are cheaper and better.

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Just go look at the AM2 benchmarks, and yes they are already out. You can buy them right now from newegg



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  • 05.31.2006 2:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: OmniosSpartan
i'mma laugh when the AMD socket 2s come out and wtfpwn all the Intels.

besides when have Intel benchmarks ever been well..trustworthy?


AM2 is out and provides no performance increases. It's basically socket 939 but with ddr2 support. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2762

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yea the only thing better about the AM2's is the price. I mean they do have a little bit of performance increase, but not very much. Maybe like 3-5% over their 939 counterparts.

I hate to say it, but I think my next rig is gonna have an Intel CPU

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ok yea its not going to be a huge increase on either sides of the processor war. I bet that AMD and Intel wont have some truly amazing cpu. I mean that there will be an increase, just not like a 50% jump in processing power from the current generation of cpu's. Just look at xbox 360. MS claimed it was god-like and amazing. Sure its a good system, but they definately gave it more hype than it deserved. Yes I have one, so for those of you who cant stand to hear a bad word said about 360 get over it. Its a powerful system, but definately not as good as they made it seem

  • 05.31.2006 9:04 PM PDT
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We will see. I'll have a look on Toms hardware at some point today, and if its not there, I dont trust this 20% claim. Toms hardware is one of the few places I trust to have an ubiased view.

Like I said, if its everything it says it is, then great, I'll probably go with that next.

Im always one step behind, technologywise. I see no reason to buy the newest thing out when a much cheaper version will do the job fine. You dont even need a dual core processor for gaming yet.

According to a friend much more in the know, the AMD bulldozer processor will be something to marvel at.

Anyways, these wars can only prove good to gamers.

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I ain't waiting for anything, even if it is faster. I'm building this PC now.

  • 06.01.2006 5:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: TMH1988
Master Kim is the grammar police here. He's probably the only one you'll find complaining about grammar. I only get annoyed when people cant spell words correctly, or have amazingly long run on sentences.

sorry kim, I dont mean to be a douche, but you do complain about grammar alot.


kim? wat bout (wat is the point of spelling out a b o u t?) ipjuunin? they all hate me and/or my grammar, im not even in high school yet, and im a More-recently-exposed-to-halo-and/or-how-just-about-everythin g-works-in-the-world player so im allowed to use bad grammar, as long as u kno that kno is know then im happy


Hey I understand that you don't feel like spelling everything out and stuff, but it'll be nice if you did improve the grammar a little (not saying you have to, I mean, I don't want to start sounding like a taskmaster). It's sometimers hard to read a paragraph when people don't capitalize new sentences, don't punctuate, or don't spell correctly.

Oh and me??? Um, when was I ever a grammar police here...? Master Kim is the almighty grammar police in the Maw, not me. Although I do sometimes find the whole "not using grammar's a criminal thing to do in the Maw" thing sort of annoying, I'll have to agrre with Master Kim's philosophy. After all, he is my "grumpier" half, considering we're both Koreans, and we both play Halo, bla-bla-bla, etc.

  • 06.01.2006 12:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: OmniosSpartan

GO.BACK.TO.ENGLISH.CLASS.STOP.KILLING.OUR.LANGUAGE!

GO.READ.UP.ON.FACTS.BEFORE.SPOUTING.INCORRECT.
INFORMATION,.AN D.NOT.LOOKING.LIKE.A.DESPERATE.FANOBY!

/stupid typing.

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  • 06.01.2006 12:42 PM PDT
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no, I'm gonna back omnios up on this. Static, you probably didnt even read the post he was commenting on. There were maybe 5 complete words and it was one giant sentence.

I dont get annoyed unless people decide they are too "kewl and 1337 2 spell owt the ful werd cuz they r layz"

[Edited on 6/1/2006]

  • 06.01.2006 1:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: TMH1988
no, I'm gonna back omnios up on this. Static, you probably didnt even read the post he was commenting on. There were maybe 5 complete words and it was one giant sentence.

I dont get annoyed unless people decide they are too "kewl and 1337 2 spell owt the ful werd cuz they r layz"


I was not commenting on the post with the poor grammar/spelling, I was simply pointing out in a rediculous style how the current trends are int he PC market. the Core 2 Duo will simply wipe the floor with the current athlon X2. We will have to wait until AMD's K8-L architecture before AMD has competition that can possibly match the new Core architecture. That and the fact that he is acting like a ridiculous fanboy.

  • 06.01.2006 1:58 PM PDT
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I understand whats going on, and I admit to being an AMD fanboy. I have always loved their products, but now they actually have some really tough competition with intel.

  • 06.01.2006 4:24 PM PDT
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Indeed they have, and forgive me for saying, but Static you sound like an intel fanboy.

No offense, its just the way you come across.

Amd have really been sticking it to intel. Until I see some proper tests on those processors, Im holding back. If they are released on time, the Inquirer and toms hardware will both do tests.

Those 2 sites are as impartial as you can get.

If the intels now jobbies turn out as they say, and dont have the rabid power consumption the old ones do, I'll change for the first time in years.

  • 06.01.2006 4:31 PM PDT
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ok well minjita I can tell that you havent been doing your research lately. For the past I'd say 6 months or so AMD and Intel have been both releasing benchmarks, stats, and other data. Go check out tomshardware, theres tons of articles about the new cpus

  • 06.01.2006 4:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

An Intel fanboy? thats probably why I have an athlon x2 with an athlon 64 before that and an athlon XP 3000+ before that and a 1700+ before that...

It happens all the time, and there clearly is a better choice. It happened with the 9700/9800 series with ATi against the 5900 series with nvidia where ATi owned the choice for the btter card(9800 pro). Now look at how Nvidia came back with the 6800 series and the 7800 series and Ati had nothing to counter either until the X1900 series. It happens all the time. Buy whats more powerful.

  • 06.01.2006 4:57 PM PDT

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