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To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.

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Posted by: B33S
I think that instead of handy game tips, we should be getting educational messages in the matchmaking screen.

For instance, we could have the Food Pyramid, a list of all the US Presidents we've ever had, all 50 states and their capitals, a random vocab word for the day and so on.


oh, even better, before you can join a game, you have to correctly answer a sample SAT question.

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: B33S
I think that instead of handy game tips, we should be getting educational messages in the matchmaking screen.

For instance, we could have the Food Pyramid, a list of all the US Presidents we've ever had, all 50 states and their capitals, a random vocab word for the day and so on.


oh, even better, before you can join a game, you have to correctly answer a sample SAT question.


ROFL!!!! Plz tell me your joking hahahaha.

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Posted by: AshWalker
To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.


Whats "bad language" to you may not be to other people.

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Posted by: AshWalker
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I didn't like how in Halo 2, the devout members of the covenant were portrayed as blindly following the prophets. I felt it mocked those of us who follow our faith to guide us in moral decisions.

I definitely see your point. I think it would have been better if we could have seen at least a few find salvation and the good news. That would have been a better message.

And they can do all that in Halo 3!

I think the trailer shows us that Cortana being naked is a sign that she is evil and a temptress. It is a hardline to walk: to shopw moral decay and out easy it is to be tricked by Evil, while showing that solid values allow true salvation. Mater Chief must obviously turn is back on evil is he is to save the world.


How the hell did it mock you? Did it point out your name and your religion? No, it was for the game's plot. PLOT. There is no underlying message of "don't follow your faith anymore because it's not right and you're following it blindly without the real facts". You've got to be kidding me. I'll respect your opinoin, but please just think about it more.

Seriously, you don't honestly believe that Bungie is throwing messages out that you yourself is following blindy in your faith do you? Please. It was all for the plot. If you take it for anymore than that then you are just plain wrong.

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_Having A Wepon Doesnt make You A Hero, What You Do With IT Does_

One value i think should be don't die. Fight for your country (or world) and try to make peace with alien races.

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Posted by: AshWalker
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I didn't like how in Halo 2, the devout members of the covenant were portrayed as blindly following the prophets. I felt it mocked those of us who follow our faith to guide us in moral decisions.

I definitely see your point. I think it would have been better if we could have seen at least a few find salvation and the good news. That would have been a better message.

And they can do all that in Halo 3!

I think the trailer shows us that Cortana being naked is a sign that she is evil and a temptress. It is a hardline to walk: to shopw moral decay and out easy it is to be tricked by Evil, while showing that solid values allow true salvation. Mater Chief must obviously turn is back on evil is he is to save the world.


cortana has clearly been possessed by a demon... strange, eratic behavior, betrayal, public nudity, dual vocalization... it's obvious.

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Yes. These are some good ideas. My point is that Halo 3 is such an opportunity to do good. Yes, it is a game but it will reach many many young people. It seems a shame to waste. Actually it is a crime to waste.

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: B33S
I think that instead of handy game tips, we should be getting educational messages in the matchmaking screen.

For instance, we could have the Food Pyramid, a list of all the US Presidents we've ever had, all 50 states and their capitals, a random vocab word for the day and so on.


oh, even better, before you can join a game, you have to correctly answer a sample SAT question.


ROFL!!!! Plz tell me your joking hahahaha.


I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE JOKE IS: AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE RANKED 75TH IN THE WORLD IN BASIC MATH SKILLS BECAUSE THEY SPEND MORE TIME SHOOTING ALIENS THAN THEY DO LEARNING ARITHMETIC.

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Posted by: AshWalker
To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.


Whats "bad language" to you may not be to other people.

Oh, I think we ALL understand what is "bad language," boy.

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I didn't like how in Halo 2, the devout members of the covenant were portrayed as blindly following the prophets. I felt it mocked those of us who follow our faith to guide us in moral decisions.

I definitely see your point. I think it would have been better if we could have seen at least a few find salvation and the good news. That would have been a better message.

And they can do all that in Halo 3!

I think the trailer shows us that Cortana being naked is a sign that she is evil and a temptress. It is a hardline to walk: to shopw moral decay and out easy it is to be tricked by Evil, while showing that solid values allow true salvation. Mater Chief must obviously turn is back on evil is he is to save the world.


cortana has clearly been possessed by a demon... strange, eratic behavior, betrayal, public nudity, dual vocalization... it's obvious.


How do you know what has happend to Cortana? Also she hasnt betrayed anyone and she is nude because its a damn computer like I said before.

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Posted by: AshWalker
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Posted by: AshWalker
To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.


Whats "bad language" to you may not be to other people.

Oh, I think we ALL understand what is "bad language," boy.


No, no ,no. I'm Hispanic. There are a ton of words that in Spainish are one thing and in English are a "bad word".

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Posted by: Gman6285
And why is Cortana naked? Because she is a freakin computer! Can you see anything on her? No. Thats like saying Barney is immoral because he doesnt wear clothes. sheesh.


Barney is a cult leader...not too mention naked all the time. Your argument makes no sense in light of the fact that Goofy wears clothes whereas Pluto is naked.

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Posted by: AshWalker
To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.


Can you prove that the words that you jus said are good? Then don't come out and say that the "bad language" is horribly wrong. If I were to say "hello" how can you say that that's a good word. Maybe that one's bad. Please. They're just words. As for letting myself slip morally, I'm just asstounded that you can even say that. If you don't know me. If you haven't once met me then don't ever say that again.

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Posted by: AshWalker
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This isn't actually a bad idea.

Bungie wants us to be mature here in the forums, so why make an immoral game that will encourage people to be dicks?
How is the game immoral?

Well, first language. It also revolves around ideas of Forerunners and Prophets. There is a lot of worshipping of false idols in the games. Now this may not be all bad, as long as they are shown to be false idols and that true faith is shown to be the winner.


First off: are you seriously worried about the "immorality" of these games? It's war, and people that go and kill other people is a part of war, no matter how "righteous" their cause is. Swearing, believe it or not, CAN add emphasis and emotion to a dialogue that could not be added through other vocabulary. And even if their is a non-swearing equivilant, it would probably take too long to say.
And second: what DO you consider to be the true faith? Who says it's my true faith?
This game isn't about teaching values. People choose their own values. You obviously played the first two games, and you still chose to have your prudish morals. If your worried about H3 corrupting society, don't worry: society is already corrupted, far more than you realize. And you can't change that by a little game editing. People will choose their belief system no matter what.
P.S. Isn't the point of these games not only to save humanity, but also to expose the falsehoods of the Covenant religion? Are you seriously worried that people that play the games are gonna start worshipping false idols?

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: B33S
I think that instead of handy game tips, we should be getting educational messages in the matchmaking screen.

For instance, we could have the Food Pyramid, a list of all the US Presidents we've ever had, all 50 states and their capitals, a random vocab word for the day and so on.


oh, even better, before you can join a game, you have to correctly answer a sample SAT question.


ROFL!!!! Plz tell me your joking hahahaha.


I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE JOKE IS: AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE RANKED 75TH IN THE WORLD IN BASIC MATH SKILLS BECAUSE THEY SPEND MORE TIME SHOOTING ALIENS THAN THEY DO LEARNING ARITHMETIC.


Then go start a math club jeez. Just because Halo is popular doesnt mean we need to fill it with crap, cuz a couple of people think it can teach children morals. Its a mature game anyway, kids arent supposed to play it.

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I didn't like how in Halo 2, the devout members of the covenant were portrayed as blindly following the prophets. I felt it mocked those of us who follow our faith to guide us in moral decisions.

I definitely see your point. I think it would have been better if we could have seen at least a few find salvation and the good news. That would have been a better message.

And they can do all that in Halo 3!

I think the trailer shows us that Cortana being naked is a sign that she is evil and a temptress. It is a hardline to walk: to shopw moral decay and out easy it is to be tricked by Evil, while showing that solid values allow true salvation. Mater Chief must obviously turn is back on evil is he is to save the world.


cortana has clearly been possessed by a demon... strange, eratic behavior, betrayal, public nudity, dual vocalization... it's obvious.


How do you know what has happend to Cortana? Also she hasnt betrayed anyone and she is nude because its a damn computer like I said before.


look, I don't care if you're european, hispanic, african, asian, or a computer. you should cover up before you make an appearance on my TV screen. that's why I blocked national geographic on my TiVo.

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And why is Cortana naked? Because she is a freakin computer! Can you see anything on her? No. Thats like saying Barney is immoral because he doesnt wear clothes. sheesh.


Barney is a cult leader...not too mention naked all the time. Your argument makes no sense in light of the fact that Goofy wears clothes whereas Pluto is naked.

Barney promotes free love... and evolution. Clearly Barney is NOT good solid values.

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Posted by: AshWalker
To address the language thing again:
Bad language is an entry sin, like booze is an entry drug. By saying they are "just words" you are alowing yourself to slip morally. That's how he gets you.


Can you prove that the words that you jus said are good? Then don't come out and say that the "bad language" is horribly wrong. If I were to say "hello" how can you say that that's a good word. Maybe that one's bad. Please. They're just words. As for letting myself slip morally, I'm just asstounded that you can even say that. If you don't know me. If you haven't once met me then don't ever say that again.


very funny. trying to slip some dirtylanguage into your post. well I'm on to your ruse, mister.

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Posted by: Caer Bannog
Posted by: Gman6285
And why is Cortana naked? Because she is a freakin computer! Can you see anything on her? No. Thats like saying Barney is immoral because he doesnt wear clothes. sheesh.


Barney is a cult leader...not too mention naked all the time. Your argument makes no sense in light of the fact that Goofy wears clothes whereas Pluto is naked.


So when you go to take a shower you're being immoral? Don't tell me that. Cartoons are not -blam!- cult leaders. They don't tell you to kill yourself to save your soul. They don't tell you to go out and steal.

Also I didn't know it was possible for an "animal" to be naked.

How is being naked evil? How? Please tell me.

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Posted by: Caer Bannog
Posted by: Gman6285
And why is Cortana naked? Because she is a freakin computer! Can you see anything on her? No. Thats like saying Barney is immoral because he doesnt wear clothes. sheesh.


Barney is a cult leader...not too mention naked all the time. Your argument makes no sense in light of the fact that Goofy wears clothes whereas Pluto is naked.


Lol wow...Barney a cult leader. rofl.

  • 05.30.2006 10:19 AM PDT

It should teach that power weapons must always be whored.

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Posted by: Rakdos
P.S. Isn't the point of these games not only to save humanity, but also to expose the falsehoods of the Covenant religion? Are you seriously worried that people that play the games are gonna start worshipping false idols?

I have never said I thought the Halo games are immoral or evil. I think they have done a pretty good job. I do have my concerns and I think that Bungie can do an amazing amount of His good work in Halo 3. That's what I am advicating.

If I thought Bungie was immoral, I would boycott. But I don't, so I am trying to lift up.

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Posted by: AshWalker
Posted by: Caer Bannog
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And why is Cortana naked? Because she is a freakin computer! Can you see anything on her? No. Thats like saying Barney is immoral because he doesnt wear clothes. sheesh.


Barney is a cult leader...not too mention naked all the time. Your argument makes no sense in light of the fact that Goofy wears clothes whereas Pluto is naked.

Barney promotes free love... and evolution. Clearly Barney is NOT good solid values.


What if I believed in evolution. Am I immoral when I try to share my faiths with other people? HOnestly I think your just tying to get some attention by posting a touchy topic like this.

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