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Posted by: Dr Syx

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
What was the difficulty? In that video, it looked like the Needler I know and love.
It was on normal. It doesn't matter though because I'm attacking a dead elite; not a live one. It looks the same as how the CEA one acts to me.
Actually, difficulty can matter. The plasma grenade detonation timer is much shorter on Legendary. What's to say the needler's detonation timer isn't also improved?

Yet you got multiple supercombines most of the time. I didn't. Could it be that the new graphics make it look like I'm hitting the dead Elite but I'm actually hitting the ground?

  • 04.30.2012 5:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: sdnomdE
That's exactly what I did; I got it under the banshee platform, looked roughly down, and held backwards on the left stick to get it wedged and stationary. I shot toward somewhere around the trees beneath the first platform, can't remember the exact spot but I did it the same way on both platforms. Maybe I'll record it next time I record something else if you want (possibly tonight); it's a bit of a hassle setting things up.
That would be interesting to see... I'm wondering why the two versions would have that change. IT just doesn't seem like something that would change for any logical reason...

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Actually, difficulty can matter. The plasma grenade detonation timer is much shorter on Legendary. What's to say the needler's detonation timer isn't also improved?
Hmm, I never knew that. Were you on Normal then?

Yet you got multiple supercombines most of the time. I didn't. Could it be that the new graphics make it look like I'm hitting the dead Elite but I'm actually hitting the ground?I doubt it. There's not that much of a difference between the size of the CEA elites over the regular ones. You were also shooting it square in the middle of its body. They would have definitely landed on the original model.

Anyways, if you compare the two videos and pause right as the supercombine takes place, it looks like both needlers have the same amount of needles left. You even get two super combines at 0:36, 0:48 and 0:53 when all the needles do hit the target.

It appears the reason you weren't getting two supercombines those times were because of how the body reacted to the first one. Pretty much each time yours bounced into the air so the rest of your needles missed. Each time mine went into the air I was far enough away and had enough precision to continue loading him with needles.

[Edited on 04.30.2012 6:17 PM PDT]

  • 04.30.2012 5:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dr Syx
Hmm, I never knew that. Were you on Normal then?
Legendary. It's way more fun.

Posted by: Dr Syx
It appears the reason you weren't getting two supercombines those times were because of how the body reacted to the first one. Pretty much each time yours bounced into the air so the rest of your needles missed. Each time mine went into the air I was far enough away and had enough precision to continue loading him with needles.
Yeah I think that might be it.

  • 04.30.2012 7:16 PM PDT

Okay, here we go.

Banshee FRGs in CEA and CE

First two clips are FRGs fired roughly at barrier while drifting upwards; sketchy method, but it takes the CE shot about 50% longer to hit ground.

Second two clips are a rough approximation of my earlier measurement method; I was more careful with position when I was clocking it with a stopwatch, and it was in a slightly different spot under the platform, but the difference is clearly visible.

Also somewhat visible in this video: Halo 1's epic sky fog on native hardware. YEAAAH.

[Edited on 04.30.2012 7:37 PM PDT]

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Posted by: sdnomdE
Also somewhat visible in this video: Halo 1's epic sky fog on native hardware. YEAAAH.
Lucky!!

[Edited on 05.01.2012 1:41 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2012 12:14 AM PDT
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The banshee's bomb does seem to be different. I'm willing to bet it was changed for Halo PC for balancing reasons... Don't know why they would change it in campaign though... Maybe it was an adjustment to all maps at once somehow so they didn't have to go through the hassle of doing it to each map individually? I don't know.

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  • 05.01.2012 3:16 PM PDT

Posted by: Dr Syx
The banshee's bomb does seem to be different. I'm willing to bet it was changed for Halo PC for balancing reasons... Don't know why they would change it in campaign though... Maybe it was an adjustment to all maps at once somehow so they didn't have to go through the hassle of doing it to each map individually? I don't know.
It's possible the lack of netcoding caused any changes to campaign or multiplayer assets to carry over the the other.

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