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Subject: Reasons why Halo: Reach failed
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RAWR!

Story:

1. Reach felt incredibly weak, for a planet that was supposedly as strong as earth, it could even defend itself from one super carrier. Wasn't it suppose to have dozens of orbital defense cannons that could wipe out super carriers? Furthermore didnt it have nuke silos on the ground all over the planet? When you go up into space half the planet is already glassed, and that was before the armada showed up.

2. Noble team's deaths were ALL cliche

3. Noble team pretty much had to do everything.

4. The game totally missed the best part, after you land back on reach from orbit it jumps to 2 weeks after the Armada shows up! Thats the best part!


Multiplayer:

1. Lack of vehicle

2. Lack of weapons/ All covie weapons sucked, even the sword got nerfed

3. A lot of weapons got nerfed

4. almost every map SUCKED, what happened to Bungie's incredible map making skills?

Armor Abilities:

At first Armor Abilities were a little overpowered, so they got nerfed, example: Invis. While other didnt get nerfed: Armor lock.

This made things quite unbalanced, and lead to AA simply slowing down gameplay.

Firefight:

Firefight was way too easy, however when it was hard the enemies simply had more health and you had less health. This doesnt challenge a player, this simply forces them to die over and over. So your choices were either way too easy firefight or incredibly hard not fun firefight. Needless to say, killing wave after wave of enemies gets boring after a few sets, or waves..-rounds! Whatever!! Seriously why not just call them waves!!!!

Forge:

Forge world is useful but bland at the same time. Its good for hardcore forges but not so good for casual ones. They also should have added civilian vehicles to the list

Theater:

You know all they had to to was copy and paste this from Halo 3 and it would have been fine, but actually they took away something! You cant look at videos with your friends. Which means if you want to show your friends something you have to go to the video, fast forward to the part you want, video tap it, put it in your file share which is kind of confusing to do too, then they have to download it, watch it seperately and then tell you what they think.

A minor complaint but if it could be done it 2007 why couldnt it be done now?

In conclusion, huge disappointment. The only thing keeping people to play the game is the Armory, which should have had DLC armor updates.

Discuss the failures of Reach.

[Edited on 04.07.2012 8:24 AM PDT]

  • 04.06.2012 9:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: nuchy
Forge world is useful but bland at the same time. Its good for hardcore forges but not so good for casual ones. They also should have added civilian vehicles to the list

You know all they had to to was copy and paste this from Halo 3 and it would have been fine, but actually they took away something! You cant look at videos with your friends. Which means if you want to show your friends something you have to go to the video, fast forward to the part you want, video tap it, put it in your file share which is kind of confusing to do too, then they have to download it, watch it seperately and then tell you what they think.
Discuss the failures of Reach.


You're acting like Reach's forge had almost no improvements from Halo 3. There was no forge world, you just had to delete objects from standard matchmaking maps. And there were a lot of things that were added into theater. Why don't you look at some of the positives instead of only looking at the negatives.

The file share is also much better than Halo 3's.

[Edited on 04.06.2012 10:13 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2012 10:11 PM PDT

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Assuming that Reach was a failure, which it wasn't.

  • 04.06.2012 10:17 PM PDT

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It was either bring back Halo 3's theater with friends, or not allow theater to fast forward or record video in Firefight or Campaign.

Which do you think was more of an improvement?

[Edited on 04.06.2012 10:19 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2012 10:18 PM PDT

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lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.

  • 04.06.2012 10:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: The CH1MP
lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.

ZB DMR> H3 BR

  • 04.06.2012 10:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Neutralism

Posted by: The CH1MP
lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.

ZB DMR> H3 BR
Nope, 4 shots to 5 means the Halo 3 BR would kill you.

  • 04.06.2012 11:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: The CH1MP
lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.
And the most important word that affects all those things: balance.

  • 04.06.2012 11:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Neutralism

Posted by: The CH1MP
lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.

ZB DMR> H3 BR
Nope, 4 shots to 5 means the Halo 3 BR would kill you.

Because obviously the most efficient weapon at killing is best for game play.

  • 04.06.2012 11:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Neutralism

Posted by: NOBLE SlX

Posted by: Neutralism

Posted by: The CH1MP
lack of weapons, lack of vehicles?

IMO that has nothing to do with it nor is lack of either a problem. It's all about the ranking system, bloom, lack of BR, maps, movement, nades, and AA's.

ZB DMR> H3 BR
Nope, 4 shots to 5 means the Halo 3 BR would kill you.

Because obviously the most efficient weapon at killing is best for game play.

Actually the DMR has a faster kill time than the BR(Halo 3).

[Edited on 04.06.2012 11:44 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2012 11:43 PM PDT

dont like my driving? stay off the sidewalk

at its core, reach was designed to be easy for someone totally new to the franchise(casuals) to pick up and play. this virtually destroyed the skill gap and gave unskilled players a crutch for every shortfall. this pleased crap players while pissing off their loyal fanbase that stayed with them since halo first hit the market, some even before that. its a smart business tactic but damned if real halo fans didnt get a knife in the back...

[Edited on 04.07.2012 3:35 AM PDT]

  • 04.07.2012 3:35 AM PDT

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3. Noble team pretty much had to do everything.

really? so you completely forgot that in Halo 1-3 Master Chief was the one who had to do everything? i hope you realize this makes your number 3 reason invalid.

  • 04.07.2012 5:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: nuchy

3. A lot of weapons got nerfed



Not many weapons got nerfed the needler is more powerful and all the weapons that had to be dual wielded in halo 3 became more powerful.

  • 04.07.2012 6:21 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: BubbaFranks1988

Posted by: nuchy

3. A lot of weapons got nerfed



Not many weapons got nerfed the needler is more powerful and all the weapons that had to be dual wielded in halo 3 became more powerful.


The needler was nerfed from Halo 3 because in Reach you can only get a super combine after the opponents shields are down unlike Halo 3

[Edited on 04.07.2012 6:23 AM PDT]

  • 04.07.2012 6:22 AM PDT

Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.

  • 04.07.2012 6:42 AM PDT
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Reach is an amazing game. I love every part about about it Forge, Multiplayer, ect.

The only part I wish they could of done was, be able to show your friends your theater video without putting it in your file share.

[Edited on 04.07.2012 6:59 AM PDT]

  • 04.07.2012 6:57 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: masterlinus99
Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.


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  • 04.07.2012 7:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: masterlinus99
Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.


Quick! Put on your flame suit! The fire is coming for you!
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  • 04.07.2012 7:05 AM PDT


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Posted by: masterlinus99
Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.


Quick! Put on your flame suit! The fire is coming for you!


No, im not going to put it on. Let the Reach haters come at me.

  • 04.07.2012 7:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: masterlinus99

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[quote]Posted by: masterlinus99
Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.


Quick! Put on your flame suit! The fire is coming for you!

No, im not going to put it on. Let the Reach haters come at me.
sp4nk u fur t3ll!ng th33s guys th4t r33ch rulz. Nobody gun tak away mai haloz. - Master Chief

[Edited on 04.07.2012 7:10 AM PDT]

  • 04.07.2012 7:09 AM PDT

Reach is a great halo game not as good as 3 or odst but it is still a great game and i love the multiplayer

  • 04.07.2012 7:09 AM PDT
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lol wut?

[Edited on 04.07.2012 7:17 AM PDT]

  • 04.07.2012 7:15 AM PDT


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Posted by: masterlinus99

Posted by: Mark V guy

[quote]Posted by: masterlinus99
Reach was a damn good game. Massive improvement from Halo 3. Forge 2.0, the new armory, multiplayer, the graphic improvement was MASSIVE. People just look at the negatives, not the improments from Halo 3. Obviously there's going to be something people don't like, but it was an massive improvement from halo 3 and they tested out new stuff like people wanted.


Quick! Put on your flame suit! The fire is coming for you!

No, im not going to put it on. Let the Reach haters come at me.
sp4nk u fur t3ll!ng th33s guys th4t r33ch rulz. Nobody gun tak away mai haloz. - Master Chief


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  • 04.07.2012 7:19 AM PDT

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Reach had its downfalls. I will admit, I don't like it compared to other Halo games in the series. But I still think it is a great game.

  • 04.07.2012 7:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: nuchy
Multiplayer:

1. Lack of vehicle
This is a huge difference between Reach and previous halos.

Smaller teams should still get access to vehicles somewhere.

All of the 4v4 playlists in reach attempted to be MLG clones and the result is stale gameplay in that field.

  • 04.07.2012 7:58 AM PDT

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