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Subject: What has happened to the Halo community?
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Blaze of Storm
I think Reach itself did.
I played Halo 3 a lot over my Easter Break and most of the people there had mics, and, in addition, were much more amicable than the majority of the Reach regulars.


I got three friend requests from people who also said GG in one day of playing H3. lolReach

  • 04.10.2012 12:30 PM PDT

I asked if he was fifteen because he was saying he thought said person he was arguing with was retarded and claiming him calling said person a retard blew his argument away.

Also he deserved the life check, he is assuming he is better than another human because he is better at a game. While I hate life checking it was necessary to point out the fact that he was being unnecessarily snide. Also it was meant to look stupid seeing just as him copy pasting the other guy saying he didn't care about unbalance and completely missing the point of what he was saying.

And finally I know the difference between your and you're, if it bothers you that much that I made a typo point out to me where and I will fix it.

But the fact that you are defending this guy, stuns me. I was only attempting to defend the person who was being bashed by him for no specific reason, if you haven't read the other posts by the user I will let this slide as my post could look rather arrogant without seeing how he was making an ass out of himself and being the face of the reason people hate mlg.

If not I would love a reason as to why you are fighting for this jerk, besides my life check which I am sorry for. He is the kind of person that is a major pain across all parts of the internet.

  • 04.10.2012 12:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Handcannon
Jerks like him are bad for the community, but so are little kids like Azrael and white knights like you.

[Edited on 04.10.2012 12:40 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2012 12:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Handcannon


Love you to Kyle.
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  • 04.10.2012 12:52 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

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Posted by: Kira Onime
Posted by: Handcannon
life check


Why do these always come up?


This is B.net.
That -blam!- is normal.


I keep forgetting these things, it's like my mind is just protecting me from it.

  • 04.10.2012 1:07 PM PDT

Veritas, Macto, Respecio


Posted by: Sparty14
Posted by: Azrael203
There is no way that any self respecting twenty-one year old would talk like that. Even on the internet.


What are you talking about? Seriously, all i see you have is a quote with my name and that is it. If it is the whole thing about blaming the parents, i stand by what i said cuz its the truth.

And i am only rsponding to you at the moment cuz i am at work on lunch and on my phone.

  • 04.10.2012 1:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Azrael203

Posted by: Sparty14
Posted by: Azrael203
There is no way that any self respecting twenty-one year old would talk like that. Even on the internet.


What are you talking about? Seriously, all i see you have is a quote with my name and that is it. If it is the whole thing about blaming the parents, i stand by what i said cuz its the truth.

And i am only rsponding to you at the moment cuz i am at work on lunch and on my phone.


I was referring to your dreadful grammar and spelling, and the fact that you write like a stereotypical "I just discovered the forums and have tons of great ideas" kid, like rj.

  • 04.10.2012 1:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Casselt
The MLG/competitive gamers community kinda tried to take control over the game. When Reach came out they were mad because the game wasn't catered toward them, pretty much.


You're retarded.

Dang dude you care that much?

Sounds like you take the game too seriously. Especially how every post you have is about how bad you say reach is.

[Edited on 04.10.2012 1:32 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2012 1:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Casselt
Dang dude you care that much?

Sounds like you take the game too seriously. Especially how every post you have is about how bad you say reach is.


Yeah.. seeing a game we loved for over a decade turn into what Reach is, I would care.

Wouldn't you?

  • 04.10.2012 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime
Yeah.. seeing a game we loved for over a decade turn into what Reach is, I would care.

Wouldn't you?

Yea it does suck.

But I learned to grow up and move on. Theres a lot better things in life then just playing Halo.

  • 04.10.2012 1:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Casselt
Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Casselt
The MLG/competitive gamers community kinda tried to take control over the game. When Reach came out they were mad because the game wasn't catered toward them, pretty much.


You're retarded.

Dang dude you care that much?

Sounds like you take the game too seriously. Especially how every post you have is about how bad you say reach is.


lol
You really just tried that?
Kid, you have more than 12000 games played of H3 and you're a legend in lolReach.

Yet you still couldn't get a 50. People like you are what ruined Halo.

  • 04.10.2012 1:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


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Posted by: Casselt
Yea it does suck.

But I learned to grow up and move on. Theres a lot better things in life then just playing Halo.



Some people care and chose to not ignore the problem.

  • 04.10.2012 1:50 PM PDT


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Posted by: Casselt
Posted by: Kira Onime
Yeah.. seeing a game we loved for over a decade turn into what Reach is, I would care.

Wouldn't you?

Yea it does suck.

But I learned to grow up and move on. Theres a lot better things in life then just playing Halo.

Also, please don't tell someone how to live their life.
He wasnt trying to tell some one how to live there life, he was giving advice.
Also it becomes an issue when the person starts picking on ppl and trying to feel superior to another person over something as meaningless as a game.

  • 04.10.2012 1:59 PM PDT

We have been raised for combat...
We carry our banner to our fights...
Alone we are a menace, together we are a threat...
Born to raise hell, live to drop back in it...
Never retreat, never surrender... we are spartans.

Please read everything CAREFULLY before jumping into a conclusion, if you don't care about the timeline of events just skip to the second line.

BARE NOTE: I know I'm submiting myself to a lot of hate by posting this but I'm sorry if anyone gets offended.
This is JUST my opinion on the matter.

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What happened is simple: when Halo Combat evolved came out the idea of online gaming with other players was a bit off.

When Halo 2 came out, people could not only play with other people through the internet, they could talk with them now. This form of social paved way for a more friendlier enviroment, the community was more into having fun, the skill factor wasn't as important. It could tell who was good and who wasn't as good and such.

Then came Halo 3. The community got... more immature, so much that K/D acquiring and skill level was ALL that matter for the competitive community. Which created a somewhat hostile enviroment.
Skill trumped Fun, making what could be a fun little enviroment into a kill-farming, K/D-hunting community.
The aspect of everyone enjoying the game the way they liked it was being overlooked and anyone who enjoyed doing what they liked how they liked it was being seen as a "noob" and "poorly skilled" gameplay.

Halo ODST.... not much can be added.

Halo reach.... came promoting a more social, more randomized gameplay with mechanics that wasn't existing in previous Halo's. This was, for the competitive community, a let down. Skill and victory was all that they cared about (for the most part, some had other and more valid reasons) and as such, it looked at Reach as "the black sheep".
The game style of Reach also threaten the gameplay of more traditional Halo gamers, which 'caused some to leave the game.

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As it can be seen: as competiveness goes up, social activity goes down. Making "fun for doing things anyway without having a set of reasons why it's noob tactics" into a "You aren't a 50, you have no say in this./ Oh, playing social and have low skill? NOOB!" game style.

The rise in the rivalry between COD and Halo also had it's affects, making people hate a game for simply forgetting that other games besides COD have those features. Perhaps not all but the point stands.


Note of interest: I'm not saying this is all the community is reduced to or all of the competitive players are like this (only the really over-competitive) or every bit of something new being hated is related to the fact it exists in Cod. This, however, is the major points that I see commun in the forums.

Long story short: The rise of over competitive gaming brought a more hostile gamming activity that followed the rise of the younger generations joining the games. The hate for another game also made it harder for accepting new gamestyles to enter the game.

[Edited on 04.10.2012 2:31 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2012 2:23 PM PDT



Posted by: Commando Santos
No skill factor matter as much to these people during halo 2 as it does now. The real issue is that every one who (is petty and) played halo 1 formed preconceptions on what skill is. And when the next halo games came out they didn't adhere solely to those petty preconceptions. So naturally for these people they got upset. They don't care about what logically takes "skill" or about reason. They care about what logic and reason fits there preconceptions about skill. Which is why so many of them are so hostile to other games, because in there eyes other games don't exhibit "skill" in its purest form.

Keep in mind the series is 10 years old. So some people who are in there twenties now where just kids when they formed these preconceptions. And its still very obvious how childish they are when you get into a "debates" with these people. When they quickly see the debate isn't going the way they want it to they start to insult. As evident in this thread.

[Edited on 04.10.2012 2:56 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Commando Santos
No skill factor matter as much to these people during halo 2 as it does now. The real issue is that every one who (is petty and) played halo 1 formed preconceptions on what skill is. And when the next halo games came out they didn't adhere solely to those petty preconceptions. So naturally for these people they got upset. They don't care about what logically takes "skill" or about reason. They care about what logic and reason fits there preconceptions about skill. Which is why so many of them are so hostile to other games, because in there eyes other games don't exhibit "skill" in its purest form.

Keep in mind the series is 10 years old. So some people who are in there twenties now where just kids when they formed these preconceptions. And its still very obvious how childish they are when you get into a "debates" with these people. When they quickly see the debate isn't going the way they want it to they start to insult. As evident in this thread.
I think it's you who got preconceptions about HCE players.

[Edited on 04.10.2012 3:01 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2012 3:00 PM PDT


Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: crispyham


Posted by: Commando Santos
No skill factor matter as much to these people during halo 2 as it does now. The real issue is that every one who (is petty and) played halo 1 formed preconceptions on what skill is. And when the next halo games came out they didn't adhere solely to those petty preconceptions. So naturally for these people they got upset. They don't care about what logically takes "skill" or about reason. They care about what logic and reason fits there preconceptions about skill. Which is why so many of them are so hostile to other games, because in there eyes other games don't exhibit "skill" in its purest form.

Keep in mind the series is 10 years old. So some people who are in there twenties now where just kids when they formed these preconceptions. And its still very obvious how childish they are when you get into a "debates" with these people. When they quickly see the debate isn't going the way they want it to they start to insult. As evident in this thread.
I think it's you who got preconceptions about HCE players.
i said the "petty" halo 1 players, i didn't say all players who played halo 1. There is a difference.
And if you need me to explain how they are petty, i will gladly do that for you.

  • 04.10.2012 4:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: crispyham

Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: crispyham


Posted by: Commando Santos
No skill factor matter as much to these people during halo 2 as it does now. The real issue is that every one who (is petty and) played halo 1 formed preconceptions on what skill is. And when the next halo games came out they didn't adhere solely to those petty preconceptions. So naturally for these people they got upset. They don't care about what logically takes "skill" or about reason. They care about what logic and reason fits there preconceptions about skill. Which is why so many of them are so hostile to other games, because in there eyes other games don't exhibit "skill" in its purest form.

Keep in mind the series is 10 years old. So some people who are in there twenties now where just kids when they formed these preconceptions. And its still very obvious how childish they are when you get into a "debates" with these people. When they quickly see the debate isn't going the way they want it to they start to insult. As evident in this thread.
I think it's you who got preconceptions about HCE players.
i said the "petty" halo 1 players, i didn't say all players who played halo 1. There is a difference.
And if you need me to explain how they are petty, i will gladly do that for you.
Then the same is said for all the "petty" halo players, each generation of halo has gamers like that, gamers that will defend their first halo as the definitive one. Each halo has its merits and flaws, but there is no denying that halo moved away from the path of HCE. And it's logical that fans from the first game will be pissed about it, simply due to the fact that they don't enjoy playing it anymore.

  • 04.10.2012 4:29 PM PDT


Posted by: TS Legaia
Then the same is said for all the "petty" halo players, each generation of halo has gamers like that, gamers that will defend their first halo as the definitive one. Each halo has its merits and flaws, but there is no denying that halo moved away from the path of HCE. And it's logical that fans from the first game will be pissed about it, simply due to the fact that they don't enjoy playing it anymore.
i Understand they are upset about the game changing. Things change tough -blam!-, grow up. The way they go about the fact that they are pissed is childish and petty, and is the issue. I mean ffs this thread exists at the moment because of their petty childish bs.

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Posted by: crispyham

i Understand they are upset about the game changing. Things change tough -blam!-, grow up. The way they go about the fact that they are pissed is childish and petty, and is the issue. I mean ffs this thread exists at the moment because of their petty childish bs.
True, but what else can they do? They are seeing their favorite game go to ...., this series being practically the only reason they bought the xbox. You'd understand if the halo's on the next gen xbox suck to you.

  • 04.10.2012 4:51 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

I see now. If you are a casual who plays just for some fun and doesn't care about being competitive, you're a retard. If you are competetive and pro then you are not, plus you are allowed an opinion.

  • 04.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: crispyham

i Understand they are upset about the game changing. Things change tough -blam!-, grow up. The way they go about the fact that they are pissed is childish and petty, and is the issue. I mean ffs this thread exists at the moment because of their petty childish bs.
True, but what else can they do? They are seeing their favorite game go to ...., this series being practically the only reason they bought the xbox. You'd understand if the halo's on the next gen xbox suck to you.
So you are condoning people insulting one another belittling, acting petty, and childish to other people for some thing as worthless and meaningless as a game?

I can understand them being upset, i can understand why they are upset. But condoning the way they express there frustration is just unacceptable. Like i said, -blam!- changes, and people need to grow up.

  • 04.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mark V guy
I see now. If you are a casual who plays just for some fun and doesn't care about being competitive, you're a retard. If you are competetive and pro then you are not, plus you are allowed an opinion.
What's with all of this generalization -blam!-? No wonder this community sucks so bad because of garbage like this. Everyone is allowed an opinion, but some hold more weight than others.

For example, I don't play MLG all that much whereas one guy could have 1000 games played in it. Both of us are allowed an opinion, but who will the community go towards for advice? Me or the guy with the 1000 games played? Pretty obvious, if you ask me.

  • 04.10.2012 5:13 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
Posted by: Mark V guy
I see now. If you are a casual who plays just for some fun and doesn't care about being competitive, you're a retard. If you are competetive and pro then you are not, plus you are allowed an opinion.
What's with all of this generalization -blam!-? No wonder this community sucks so bad because of garbage like this. Everyone is allowed an opinion, but some hold more weight than others.

For example, I don't play MLG all that much whereas one guy could have 1000 games played in it. Both of us are allowed an opinion, but who will the community go towards for advice? Me or the guy with the 1000 games played? Pretty obvious, if you ask me.


Generelisation? I have seen countless people who say this on the forums

But I agree the Reach community sucks major -blam!- balls

  • 04.10.2012 5:23 PM PDT