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Subject: The true meaning of "John, SPARTAN 117"
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This is thanks to Abolition on the unofficial bungie chat:
(READ LINE 17 from the Bible)

John 1


The Word Became Flesh

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[1] it.
6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.[2]
10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13children born not of natural descent,[3] nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[4] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' "
16From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another.
17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,[5] ,[6] who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

Reference: http://www.biblegateway.com/bible?passage=JOHN+1&language =english&versi on=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on

Do you think that is what inspired the writer of The Fall of Reach to make MC's, John's, SPARTAN number 117? I mean, do you see the connection? John 1:17. What do you think?

[Edited on 5/15/2004 2:07:59 PM]

  • 05.15.2004 2:07 PM PDT
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Some idiotic stuff there.

  • 05.15.2004 2:09 PM PDT
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Haha, i thought it was quite amusing. =P

  • 05.15.2004 2:10 PM PDT
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That's a bit of a stretch.

  • 05.15.2004 2:11 PM PDT
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Oppiten here is an idea. Before you insult the religious beliefs of millions of people how about you rethink your actions and not type like an idiot.

It makes sense, but there are a ton of Bibilical references that Bungie used for Halo and many of their other games.

And Oppiten even though you would slap us of the one true high God in the face, may he bless you anyways. Amen.

  • 05.15.2004 2:12 PM PDT
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I'm a Jew idiot. As for the christian bible, I have read it extensivly. I know of the reference, the tie-in is terrible. Now go -blam!- yourself.

  • 05.15.2004 2:15 PM PDT
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Stop being an idiot, Oppiten.

  • 05.15.2004 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Matt In A Bubble
Stop being an idiot, Oppiten.

Care to give an example? I'm just saying the tie-in is terrible 29, is still pretty cool though.

  • 05.15.2004 2:17 PM PDT
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I didn't want it to be amazing, its just a little thing that I thought some people would like to know. And speaking of things people would like to know, I am Jewish too.

[Edited on 5/15/2004 2:19:03 PM]

  • 05.15.2004 2:18 PM PDT
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You're yellling at everyone.

  • 05.15.2004 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 00029
I didn't want it to be amazing, its just a little thing that I thought some people would like to know. And speaking of things people would like to know, I AM JEWISH TOO.

I was talking to Hikaru or whatever it's name is when I said that. I just think the theory is a little more than just a stretch. Not anything personal.

  • 05.15.2004 2:19 PM PDT
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Its ok, I misunderstood, sorry.

  • 05.15.2004 2:19 PM PDT
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A jew? What does that mean? If anything then I should be thanking you. Here goes.

Thank you Oppiten and all of your fellow jews. For without your people the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ the holy son of the most High God would not have been slain and sacrificed for the sins of the world. Thus without you, forgivenesss of sins would not have been accomplished and I, a gentile, would be damned to hell. Thank you for your help in the saving my sorry Chirstian ass roughly 2,000 years ago.

Now back to the topic. The tie in is there, but it includes all of the verses preceeding the 17th.

  • 05.15.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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Please some one name a movie or video game that dosen't have biblical references ???? accept stuff like animal house lol ... and barney .... and maybe pound puppies .

  • 05.15.2004 2:26 PM PDT
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Finding Nemo, =P

  • 05.15.2004 2:27 PM PDT
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im sure i could find a biblical reference in that ..... but i dont wanna watch a movie ATM lol ..


what about ... MOUNT!! WANNA HAWK A LOGGIE!! ??

  • 05.15.2004 2:30 PM PDT
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haha hes a jew

  • 05.15.2004 2:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Neo 231
haha hes a jew


Haha. Yeah, that's hilarious. Now grow some balls and watch something other than South Park.

  • 05.15.2004 2:45 PM PDT
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Gentlemen and women (maybe aliens too) this isn't meant to be a religious strife, just another point of Bungie and I think it was Eric Nylund? tying in a story to something biblical.

  • 05.15.2004 2:54 PM PDT
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What he said.

[Edited on 5/15/2004 3:02:55 PM]

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I dont think that is where he came up with John 117. I cant really make the connection between the words in the verse and the Master Chief.

That is some interesting food for thought, seeing as how Bungie (and Eric Nylund) has made numerous religious references in their games, but i dont think thats where it came from.

And since we are on the topic of religion, im first baptist.

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Well take a look at the entire entry in the Bible for John, it's almost Master Chief in his best and brightest.

On a side note, for those who might spam me for being a religious zealot of some sort, I'm Athiest.

  • 05.15.2004 3:08 PM PDT
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blah

[Edited on 5/15/2004 3:46:06 PM]

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That theory is absurd. You could tie anything into a biblical reference, You could say that only john, linda and james went to destroy the nav computer on the station outside Reach because it relates to the holy trinity. Come on eveything doesnt have to have a religious interpretation, and why are people telling their religous choice, who cares.

  • 05.15.2004 3:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Oppiten
Now go -blam!- yourself.
wow ur representing ur religion great i am a christian i believe there are many tie ins of the bible to halo oppiten u are wrong

  • 05.15.2004 4:06 PM PDT

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