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Subject: Remember all of us saying Reach sucks?

Well after reading this it sounds a whole lot better than halo 4. Article about halo 4 :http://m.ign.com/articles/1222537

[Edited on 04.09.2012 8:15 PM PDT]

  • 04.09.2012 8:14 PM PDT

Religion breeds hate

If you truly believe!

  • 04.09.2012 8:16 PM PDT


Posted by: mikeman92
If you truly believe!
random

  • 04.09.2012 8:21 PM PDT

Not buying Halo 4.

  • 04.09.2012 8:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source

H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.

  • 04.09.2012 8:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.

True players can adapt both ways.

  • 04.09.2012 8:44 PM PDT

Still sucks.

  • 04.09.2012 8:56 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.


Posted by: Echo 318

Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.

True players can adapt both ways.



True =/= good.

  • 04.09.2012 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: Mikelp_1

Posted by: Echo 318

Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.

True players can adapt both ways.



True =/= good.

  • 04.09.2012 8:59 PM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.



Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.

  • 04.09.2012 9:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: My Name is Ryan
Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.


Not gona -blam!- on something when I don't have all the info.

For all we know, those options might only be found in X amount of playlists.

  • 04.09.2012 9:13 PM PDT

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That Forerunner thing, just doesn't fit there.

  • 04.09.2012 9:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: My Name is Ryan

Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.



Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.
Don't be so quick to judge it. We hardly have s.hit for info, though what you mentioned worries me.

  • 04.09.2012 9:25 PM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: My Name is Ryan
Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.


Not gona -blam!- on something when I don't have all the info.

For all we know, those options might only be found in X amount of playlists.


Why would I want Cod style gameplay in any playlist? This is Halo... good argument. I guess...

  • 04.09.2012 9:34 PM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Blackdog Rker

Posted by: My Name is Ryan

Posted by: Kira Onime
H4 already has no bloom, no AL and the BR.
That alone makes it better.



Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.
Don't be so quick to judge it. We hardly have s.hit for info, though what you mentioned worries me.


Who cares how much info we have? They are copying COD. Do you need a 10 page essay to explain every detail for you to see that? I don't.

  • 04.09.2012 9:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kira Onime
Posted by: My Name is Ryan
Armor affecting gameplay
Random weapon pickups
Cod points
Customizable loadouts

No problem with these?
All they did was add the br, which should have been in Reach. They fixed 3 issues of Reach, and added even more.
Not gona -blam!- on something when I don't have all the info.

For all we know, those options might only be found in X amount of playlists.
This is a very important point, but I just pray 343 doesn't make the same mistake Bungie did (by shoving AA's down our throats in every playlist only to later realize - and by then it was to late - that they just alienated a huge core group of Halo fans).

I'm all for adding new dynamics to Halo but for -blam!-s sake, can we please just have the good old simple, symmetrically balanced Halo back without all this "COD style" filler?

...although I have a hunch M$ and 343 (as did Bungie) have the "new generation" of gamers in their sights and have already pretty much given a big 'ol middle finger to those of us who loved that classic Halo experience.

  • 04.09.2012 9:56 PM PDT

There is no way that i'm buying Halo 4 unless some of this crap they are adding is removed.

  • 04.09.2012 9:58 PM PDT

For The Lulz is a worthier cause than For The Win.

From the skies to the ground, I'm the one that'll reign destruction down on you from behind the wheel and the flight stick. Keep your eyes on the rear view mirror, or you may be eating exhaust aside the road, riddled with holes.

My sniper is hungry for souls.

If at first you fail, fail again so that you succeed by wrapping your fail around the continuum into the win zone.

I don't understand what you're taking issue with. Everything we have heard thus far is only good news, and there are a lot more changes than what that article lists. Also, come on, LolIGN. IGN is one of the worst reviewers ever, and there are problems just in this simple article. The Covenant never had a truce with humanity. The Elites, and a rebelling faction led by Half-Jaw and the Arbiter, at that, were the only ones who partnered up with the UNSC. The Covenant can't be completely gone. And it's not like the surviving loyalist factions would just give up after blindly following the Prophets for so long.

I'm honestly impressed that 343 managed to come up with a legitimate, and, I must add, rather clever solution to the ridiculous premise that red Spartans fight blue Spartans.

Weapon customization and armor customization adds depth that Halo's multiplayer has been lacking. It can't continue to be the same game for three more titles. It has to change; it has to evolve. As long as 343's idea of "customization" isn't pretty floral print patterns on your rifle, it's hard to go wrong with weapon customization.

Instantaneous respawn in Team Slayer is a little weird, yeah, and power weapons on a random respawn timer is a terrible idea, but that's not such a big deal compared to all the good ideas.

We've needed to sprint from the beginning. Has no one ever questioned why a super soldier can't freaking sprint? Yes, sprint introduces some bad elements (like sword + sprint combo and double pummeling), but it's elementary and necessary. We can't float along on air, which is what Spartans evidently do according to game logic.

The Spartan Ops is an interesting idea, even if it is just totally Spec Ops from CoD given a Halo-themed coat of paint. (But hey, that was one of the things I actually liked about CoD.)

Hologram is utterly useless, so I hope they make it actually interesting. Camo doesn't do much currently, but it has the potential to be neat. And Jetpack was honestly the only armor ability I actually loved aside from Evade. (Although, Jetpack-AR combo is really stupid, but whatever.)

Cortana needs a fresh look. After all, she changes every game. Can you complain if she's more detailed and has a better haircut? I know I can't.

Exploring the Chief's character is a good idea, although I think he was honestly fleshed out enough, even considering he was faceless in the games. His dialogue and actions spoke for him, as did his care for Cortana and the Marines. But if 343 wants to really put him under the microscope, I'm totally fine with that.

The BR is returning, which is probably the best thing they've told us. I'm fine with the DMR coming back. It'll be interesting to see how the two coexist. New weapons are always cool, and I can't wait to see what new vehicles they come up with.

A new, smarter, deadlier enemy is obviously nothing but a good idea. I've fought Covies for five games. Give me something new and fun to fight. They can still stick around, but they should not be the main threat. And even if it turns out the Covies you fight were the ones that formed an alliance with you, there's nothing wrong with that on the face of things. It's not as if alliances can't be broken. As long as they justify it if it is the case, there's no problem.

I am hearing nothing but good news. That doesn't mean there's no way 343 can still screw up, but at this point, given what I know, I'm not sure how they can go wrong now. But, I guess I shouldn't be too trusting. After all, look what happened with BioWare and Mass Effect 3's ending.




  • 04.09.2012 10:39 PM PDT

Remember all of us saying Halo 2 sucks?

Remember all of us saying Halo 3 sucks?

Remember all of us saying Halo: ODST sucks?

You get the picture.

  • 04.09.2012 10:52 PM PDT
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Both games are crap.

  • 04.10.2012 1:27 AM PDT


Posted by: MythicSniper
I don't understand what you're taking issue with. Everything we have heard thus far is only good news, and there are a lot more changes than what that article lists. Also, come on, LolIGN. IGN is one of the worst reviewers ever, and there are problems just in this simple article. The Covenant never had a truce with humanity. The Elites, and a rebelling faction led by Half-Jaw and the Arbiter, at that, were the only ones who partnered up with the UNSC. The Covenant can't be completely gone. And it's not like the surviving loyalist factions would just give up after blindly following the Prophets for so long.

I'm honestly impressed that 343 managed to come up with a legitimate, and, I must add, rather clever solution to the ridiculous premise that red Spartans fight blue Spartans.

Weapon customization and armor customization adds depth that Halo's multiplayer has been lacking. It can't continue to be the same game for three more titles. It has to change; it has to evolve. As long as 343's idea of "customization" isn't pretty floral print patterns on your rifle, it's hard to go wrong with weapon customization.

Instantaneous respawn in Team Slayer is a little weird, yeah, and power weapons on a random respawn timer is a terrible idea, but that's not such a big deal compared to all the good ideas.

We've needed to sprint from the beginning. Has no one ever questioned why a super soldier can't freaking sprint? Yes, sprint introduces some bad elements (like sword + sprint combo and double pummeling), but it's elementary and necessary. We can't float along on air, which is what Spartans evidently do according to game logic.

The Spartan Ops is an interesting idea, even if it is just totally Spec Ops from CoD given a Halo-themed coat of paint. (But hey, that was one of the things I actually liked about CoD.)

Hologram is utterly useless, so I hope they make it actually interesting. Camo doesn't do much currently, but it has the potential to be neat. And Jetpack was honestly the only armor ability I actually loved aside from Evade. (Although, Jetpack-AR combo is really stupid, but whatever.)

Cortana needs a fresh look. After all, she changes every game. Can you complain if she's more detailed and has a better haircut? I know I can't.

Exploring the Chief's character is a good idea, although I think he was honestly fleshed out enough, even considering he was faceless in the games. His dialogue and actions spoke for him, as did his care for Cortana and the Marines. But if 343 wants to really put him under the microscope, I'm totally fine with that.

The BR is returning, which is probably the best thing they've told us. I'm fine with the DMR coming back. It'll be interesting to see how the two coexist. New weapons are always cool, and I can't wait to see what new vehicles they come up with.

A new, smarter, deadlier enemy is obviously nothing but a good idea. I've fought Covies for five games. Give me something new and fun to fight. They can still stick around, but they should not be the main threat. And even if it turns out the Covies you fight were the ones that formed an alliance with you, there's nothing wrong with that on the face of things. It's not as if alliances can't be broken. As long as they justify it if it is the case, there's no problem.

I am hearing nothing but good news. That doesn't mean there's no way 343 can still screw up, but at this point, given what I know, I'm not sure how they can go wrong now. But, I guess I shouldn't be too trusting. After all, look what happened with BioWare and Mass Effect 3's ending.





Right now, the bad is outweighing the good, which isn't going to make H4 a success. Half of the stuff you listed, nobody cares about. It's 90% about competitive multiplayer, and it sounds like H4 isn't gonna cut it.

  • 04.10.2012 1:31 AM PDT


Posted by: Bungie fan no7
Both games are crap.

Coming from the guy who spends the better part of his day here. Seriously, I get on today and the first poster I see is you. You must never sleep.

  • 04.10.2012 1:32 AM PDT
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Remember saying it, of course I can remember what I said 5 mins ago, am still saying and will say for the rest of my life.
H4 is going in the same direction as reach from what I gather, but there are a couple of things that are gamebreaking to me in reach that may not be there in H4.
Bloom - Confirmed not to be in H4.
Armor abillities - Not against it, I just found it to be poorly implemented and unbalanced.
Hitboxes - the most important aspect of a shooter, totally garbage in reach.
Maps - Garbage in reach.

With these things gone or bettered in H4, it might stand a chance.

  • 04.10.2012 5:35 AM PDT
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i plai 4 fun gtfo

Everyone whining about the game here is going to buy it regardless, so why not wait until more info is released? I'm very skeptical but I'm at least waiting until I have all the facts or the game is in my hands.

  • 04.10.2012 6:05 AM PDT

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