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Posted by: Avatar Korra
They basically arrested a woman for creating a program which won the war. Makes sense, humanity would have gone extinct without her.Yes, but were the program to be initiated DURING the Human-Covenant War it may have been justified. The S-II Program was created to fight against the Insurrectionists, not the Covenant.
I'd say abducting children to use in a war against other humans (clearly not an "extinction war") is a just a little bit..."immoral" in the eyes of the justice system.
So, if today you had a group that was nuking civilians whenever they could, killing more civilians then soldiers, and generally threatening to send humanity into the stone age again, you wouldn't do drastic measures to stop them?
I'd say the Spartans were a needed evil. The rebels freaking nuked a colony that was sympathetic to them(IIRC, they nuked it anyway. Unsure about the sympathetic to the cause but I remember it.). They bombed a club just to TRY to kill a few ODST's, resulting in lots of civilian deaths. The rebels were NOT good guys. they weren't "just a group of humans." There were terrorists, A: a convential war would've shattered humanity.
B: Letting them have outer colonies would result in Rebels simply turning their extra freighters into weapons of mass destruction, and keep doing their attack.
Extreme times call for extreme measures. -blam!- about Halsey doing the S2 program all you wish. But remember. ONI funded it. ONI gave the supplies. ONI approved. Halsey could have never done it without ONI's backing. Which they gave fully. Oh, then they started withdrawing it when Halsey actually gave a -blam!- damn about the well-being of the subjects, giving them best chance of survival and such.
So let's see, option A: Do a morally questionable thing, but SAVE humanity from nearly wiping itself out and utterly ruining it's civilization.
or B: Don't do that thing, and match everything spiral further out of control.
A quote from Andromeda I heard recently: "I understand why the universe needs dictators. They are the ones that are willing to make the hard choices and sacrifices to save the rest."
Halsey(heavily backed by ONI) made the hard, questionable(morally) choice. The result? She saved humanity. No Parangosky, HALSEY saved humanity. While I don't say that detail should simply wash her plate clean, the fact Halsey still regrets every Spartan death, regrets having to tear them from their families, regrets seeing the ones crippled beyond healing of the time, THAT is enough punishment.
Oh, and a glasslands quote from Fred I think. He was asked IIRC, what he thought of Halsey 'kidnapping' them and ripping them from the life they had. He (In like... Traviss's one moment of goodness in glasslands) replied with "If she hadn't done that, I would be dead now. She allowed me to live my life to the fullest, and to reach my full potential."