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Ok I dont know what made me think of this at all, but you know how the Prophet of Regret jumped the gun and went to the Ark (Earth) and Cortana was saying how they had so bad intel about the enemies home world. Well if you remember in the beggining of Halo 2 when the Arbiter was talking about how the Pillar of Autumn escaped and how him and all the ships in his command went after it. So I dont know how it was possible for Regret to not know that the Ark was Earth when he jumped the gun because the covenant already knew where Earth was. If you have any ideas on how this is possible or did Bungie just over look something or I am a complete idiot.

  • 05.31.2006 6:48 PM PDT
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Hey that is kind of wierd how does Regret not know that where he is going is Earth.

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Posted by: Kinetic Gambit
Ok I dont know what made me think of this at all, but you know how the Prophet of Regret jumped the gun and went to the Ark (Earth) and Cortana was saying how they had so bad intel about the enemies home world. Well if you remember in the beggining of Halo 2 when the Arbiter was talking about how the Pillar of Autumn escaped and how him and all the ships in his command went after it. So I dont know how it was possible for Regret to not know that the Ark was Earth when he jumped the gun because the covenant already knew where Earth was. If you have any ideas on how this is possible or did Bungie just over look something or I am a complete idiot.


1. We do not know that the Ark "is" Earth, nor that it is even ON Earth.

2. Regret was not necessarily jumping to the Ark itself - we currently do not know his exact intentions for coming to Earth.

3. When the Pillar of Autumn escaped from Reach, we don't know if the Covenant know of Earth or not. I don't know how you came to this conclusion, but it doesn't make much sense whatsoever.

  • 05.31.2006 6:57 PM PDT

i dont know wat your talking about, especialy the part about the arbiter

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Yes we do know that they knew the Pillar of Autumn came from Earth.

1. The covenant wanted to kill Master Chief the last spartan

2. In Halo 2 when the Arbiter is being tried at the beggining he flashes back to when the Pillar of Autumn was leaving the Earths atmosphere past covenant battle ships.

Regret didn't know he was going to Earth he was going somewhere, but didn't know it was Earth. He should of realized that the coordinates was Earths, but some how didn't. The only thing your right about is that we dont know if the Ark is on Earth.

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Just go put in Halo 2 and start a new campaign and watch the Arbiters flash back and you will know that the covenant know where Earth is.

Oops sorry for double posting thought i was editing the last one.

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  • 05.31.2006 7:04 PM PDT
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I recomend that you read the Halo books.

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Posted by: Kinetic Gambit
Yes we do know that they knew the Pillar of Autumn came from Earth.

1. The covenant wanted to kill Master Chief the last spartan

2. In Halo 2 when the Arbiter is being tried at the beggining he flashes back to when the Pillar of Autumn was leaving the Earths atmosphere past covenant battle ships.

Regret didn't know he was going to Earth he was going somewhere, but didn't know it was Earth. He should of realized that the coordinates was Earths, but some how didn't. The only thing your right about is that we dont know if the Ark is on Earth.


thats wasnt earth's atmo dude, that was reach...when the covie armada glassed the planet with plasma bombs and made reach a giant marble!! you would have know that if you had read the books.

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Ok everyone who disagrees with me put in Halo 2 now and watch the beggining you will see that he was talking about the Pilar of Autumn then it shows it leaving Earth past covenant ships. Dont tell me i'm dillusional because i'm not. Just check it out please and tell me i'm not dillusional. Some of the book relates and some of the book doesn't even relate to the game.

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They knew the Ark was on Earth but they didn't know that was the Human homeworld. The planet the Pillar of Autmn left from was Reach.

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How could they not know that was the human home world when they had already been there when the Pillar of Autumn took off then they went after it. Unless your saying they just dont remember that those coordinates were Earths and when they got there they realized they made a mistake.

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THE PROFIT OF REGRET'S SHIP WAS THE FIRST COVIE SHIP TO EVEN SEE EARTH!!!!!



Posted by: Kinetic Gambit
Ok everyone who disagrees with me put in Halo 2 now and watch the beggining you will see that he was talking about the Pilar of Autumn then it shows it leaving Earth past covenant ships. Dont tell me i'm dillusional because i'm not. Just check it out please and tell me i'm not dillusional. Some of the book relates and some of the book doesn't even relate to the game.


go read "the fall of reach" by eric nylund and then tell me that was earth, cause it wasnt...ITS REACH, where the Cheif was trained and where the covenant first attacked any human controlled planet. now, if you would like to argue it more, i suggest you READ and then make an argument, cause that where the pillar of autumn makes the blind jump!!!

O and he worked with bungie to write the story...thats what they both came up with from the halo bible that bungie has!


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the POA was leaving reach not earth they used the coordinates from the stone that was on cote de azur

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Posted by: Kinetic Gambit
Yes we do know that they knew the Pillar of Autumn came from Earth.

1. The covenant wanted to kill Master Chief the last spartan

2. In Halo 2 when the Arbiter is being tried at the beggining he flashes back to when the Pillar of Autumn was leaving the Earths atmosphere past covenant battle ships.

Regret didn't know he was going to Earth he was going somewhere, but didn't know it was Earth. He should of realized that the coordinates was Earths, but some how didn't. The only thing your right about is that we dont know if the Ark is on Earth.

I suggest you read the books, they help with a lot of story aspects. Like this one. You're kind of far off from the point, I would type it all out, but it would take a while.

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OK tell me what reach is real quick and i will decide.

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Reach is the planet that is for the UNSC weapons research...MC was trained and augmented there....thats where Sheila (the tank) was created and same with the batte rifle and magnum of halo2....and it has a forerunner instillation on it... maybe ark, maybe not, thats why the covies attacked and only glassed 90% of it, so they could still get at the instillation.

AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT...read the books called "fall of reach", "the flood" and "the first strike", they are well writen and have lots to do with the halo game.

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that planet it shows is REACH not earth

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Posted by: Kinetic Gambit
OK tell me what reach is real quick and i will decide.

Reach is a planet not far from Earth. It is the UNSCs largest naval ship yard, and also where the Spartan II's were trained. Before Halo:CE it was attacked by the covenant as they were searching for a Forerunner artifact underneath a mountain. The Pillar of Autumn was there, and they jumped to escape the covenant, they could not directly jump to Earth because itt would reveal it's position to the Covenant. Cortana jumped to a "random" (she actually used coordinates found on a rock in one of the Chief's missions beforehand) point, and Halo was there. This is when Halo: CE began.

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Reach is the planet that is for the UNSC weapons research...MC was trained and augmented there....thats where theSheila was created and same with the batte rifle and magnum of halo2....and it has a forerunner instillation on it... maybe ark, maybe not, thats why the cobies attacked and only glassed 90% of it, so they could still get at the instillation.

AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT...read the books called "fall of reach", "the flood" and "the first strike", they are well writen and have lots to do with the halo game.

It was not an "installation". It was the crystal located in the mines of ONI's base (located within a mountain). They left this part unglassed in fear of damaging the crystal.

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Thank you for clearing that up. But why did he say we set fire to their planet talking about humans in general and I saw south african on that planet or south america i'm pretty sure.

  • 05.31.2006 7:21 PM PDT
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The Pillar of Autumn escaped from Reach as it was being glassed over by the Covenant.

There was an enormous fleet at Reach (the books describe this) and in the beginning of Halo 2 you hear Lord Hood say "Something's not right. The fleet that destroyed Reach was 50 times this size."

That is important because it shows that the Covenant probably thought Reach was the human homeworld. The books describe Reach as a very prominent planet instead of this random human inhabited planet, there was a military force on it anyway, where Spartan 117 trained.

In the manual of Halo: CE on page 5 it says here: "Two days before the mission begins, Covenant forces strike Reach and annihilate the colony. The Covenant are now on Earth's doorstep. One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the last SPARTAN-II..."

That right there proves you are looking at Reach during that flashback.

  • 05.31.2006 7:23 PM PDT
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im now confused y would n e space ship b carrying a super soilder in a cairogenetic freeze chamber

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they probably just used an earth model for the planet to save time and not have to make a new planet, and "setting fire" refers to "glassing" the planet...in lamens term...make a giant marble out of the planet.


and cryogenic chamber keeps ppl safe in their sleep and...well i dont know, but i think they were transporting him when the covenant attacked.

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  • 05.31.2006 7:25 PM PDT
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NW330 you have made more sense than anyone else thank you for clearing that up.

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