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Subject: Why do Reach haters . . .

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Inevitably turn out to have played a significant number of Reach games?

I'm serious . . . When I look up the service records of those who spout off how much the campaign sucks or how multiplayer puts players of unequal skill on the same team, the bellyachers have played literally -Thousands- of Reach games.

One recent flamer was a freaking Inheritor!!

I hate Pokeman. You wouldn't see me playing thousands of Pokeman games.

So Reach haters, why do you insist on playing a game that you insist is crap?

  • 04.15.2012 9:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: IRISH 249
I hate Pokeman.

You hate what?

  • 04.15.2012 9:14 AM PDT
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Pretty ironic. I find the game pretty fantastic yet I have a small amount of games played.

  • 04.15.2012 9:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: IRISH 249
I hate Pokeman.

You hate what?


You haven't heard of Pokeman?

  • 04.15.2012 9:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt Commando
Pretty ironic. I find the game pretty fantastic yet I have a small amount of games played.

Notice the pattern there?

If someone is an Inheritor, they (probably) have plenty of experience with the game, thus they'd be able to tell you why they think the game is bad.
If you haven't played as much, you wouldn't have the same experience as he/she does.

Just because someone has reached Inheritor, doesn't mean they like the game. Now why they would continue playing even after finding out they don't like the game? Beats me.

I'm an Inheritor, Reach isn't great. I like a few things about it, but I'd rather play Halo 2.

  • 04.15.2012 9:26 AM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.


Posted by: BBZak III
If someone is an Inheritor, they (probably) have plenty of experience with the game, thus they'd be able to tell you why they think the game is bad.
If you haven't played as much, you wouldn't have the same experience as he/she does.


you only need to play a couple of games to figure out how bad reach sucks.

  • 04.15.2012 9:35 AM PDT

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  • 04.15.2012 9:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: jammyjames888
Also it's the only populated Halo game.
Halo 3 can be okay but the search times can be horrific


Only in Ranked playlists.

  • 04.15.2012 9:37 AM PDT

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This is an incredibly weak argument. The "a lot of games played, so more experience why Reach sucks" doesn't work.

Let's take food. I hate Suger Pops cereal. Following your logic, it would be expected that I would continue to eat Sugar Pops.

An Inheritor does not hate Reach. If they did, they would not continue to play something they don't enjoy.

Why would I possibly eat something I hate??

Me thinks the Reach haters like to create drama and they think it is cool to bash a game that they really enjoy.

Again, their behavior contradicts their argument.


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Posted by: Sgt Commando
Pretty ironic. I find the game pretty fantastic yet I have a small amount of games played.

Notice the pattern there?

If someone is an Inheritor, they (probably) have plenty of experience with the game, thus they'd be able to tell you why they think the game is bad.
If you haven't played as much, you wouldn't have the same experience as he/she does.

Just because someone has reached Inheritor, doesn't mean they like the game. Now why they would continue playing even after finding out they don't like the game? Beats me.

I'm an Inheritor, Reach isn't great. I like a few things about it, but I'd rather play Halo 2.

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Posted by: BBZak III
Notice the pattern there?
Im sure theres no pattern at all.

Ive probably played the least amount of Matchmaking games here, and I can safely say that the game is amazing. Now you could say "Only three hundred games? Thats not enough to tell!" Yeah well, I call bull-blam!-.

It might not be a lot compared to other people, but it still is a lot of games. Not only that, but those three hundred games totaled out 46 hours of gaming, which is, if you didnt know, plenty of time to truly state whether you like it or not.

  • 04.15.2012 10:03 AM PDT

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because I like pen­is.

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Posted by: Sgt Commando


The question is.... are those 300 games played with top level players? Or in the bottom of the barrel.

  • 04.15.2012 10:05 AM PDT

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That has nothing to do with it and don't derail the thread.

the poster said 300 games is more than enough games to form an opinion of whether you like a game or not.

It has nothing to do with quality of player.


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Posted by: Sgt Commando


The question is.... are those 300 games played with top level players? Or in the bottom of the barrel.


[Edited on 04.15.2012 10:09 AM PDT]

  • 04.15.2012 10:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kira Onime
Couldnt tell you, but I dont see how that is relevant in anyway. Im judging the game itself, not the people who play it.

  • 04.15.2012 10:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source

I'm asking because I often hear people telling us how the game is awesome, nothing is wrong and everything balanced. Then, when you take a look at how their opinion was formed, you notice all they have under their belt is bottom of the barrel experience where no flaws are exposed and abused.

Those same people later come around and spew at you "adapt" and just utterly use retarded arguments when you tell them they have no experience at top level play.





Something like that.

  • 04.15.2012 10:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt Commando
those three hundred games totaled out 46 hours of gaming, which is, if you didnt know, plenty of time to truly state whether you like it or not.


I don't doubt you like what you've played, but have you played everything the game has to offer in that almost 2 days of Reach?
I'm sure you're a fan of Team Slayer. Or TU Team Slayer. Whichever.
I've played since Day 1, not bragging. Just saying.
I've got plenty of games in every playlist. (except MLG, not my cup of tea thanks)
Reach has even gone through a Title Update, changing a lot about how the game functions.
All I'm saying is that two days doesn't seem like enough time to form a solid opinion. There's so much to try, and most of it is crap... IMO
Reach isn't Halo, just some weird CoD wanna-be.

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Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.


Posted by: Sgt Commando

Posted by: Kira Onime
Couldnt tell you, but I dont see how that is relevant in anyway. Im judging the game itself, not the people who play it.

tiny little discrepancies in gameplay become much more apparent when you're good at the game yourself, playing against other good players.

that's why when bungie playtests games they miss so many things, because they suck ass at the game. they aren't good enough to notice those little details.

  • 04.15.2012 10:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: Sgt Commando

Posted by: Kira Onime
Couldnt tell you, but I dont see how that is relevant in anyway. Im judging the game itself, not the people who play it.

tiny little discrepancies in gameplay become much more apparent when you're good at the game yourself, playing against other good players.

that's why when bungie playtests games they miss so many things, because they suck ass at the game. they aren't good enough to notice those little details.

Exactly this. Bungie's too bad at their own game to realize that things like bloom and jetpacks break the game at a competitive level. I play this game a lot, and I'm not very good (but still better than almost all of the random population), and I can still tell you that default Reach is awful.

  • 04.15.2012 10:25 AM PDT

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Dude, you played almost 8000 games of Reach. Let me write that again . . . 8000 GAMES PLAYED. And you think " most of it is crap.".

Unfriggingbelievable.

You will not get me to believe you think Reach sucks based on your past behavior.

How could you possibly spend so much time playing something that "is crap"???


Unreal.


Posted by: BBZak III

Posted by: Sgt Commando
those three hundred games totaled out 46 hours of gaming, which is, if you didnt know, plenty of time to truly state whether you like it or not.


I don't doubt you like what you've played, but have you played everything the game has to offer in that almost 2 days of Reach?
I'm sure you're a fan of Team Slayer. Or TU Team Slayer. Whichever.
I've played since Day 1, not bragging. Just saying.
I've got plenty of games in every playlist. (except MLG, not my cup of tea thanks)
Reach has even gone through a Title Update, changing a lot about how the game functions.
All I'm saying is that two days doesn't seem like enough time to form a solid opinion. There's so much to try, and most of it is crap... IMO
Reach isn't Halo, just some weird CoD wanna-be.

  • 04.15.2012 10:42 AM PDT

I hate Reach as a Halo.

But tolerate slightly as a mediocre stand alone game.

  • 04.15.2012 10:44 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: IRISH 249

Has it ever crossed your mind that some of us actually had hope for this game to get better and go back in the right path?


You seem so focused so much on the action taken and trying to make the other look stupid, that you fail to look for a reason of the taken actions.

  • 04.15.2012 10:45 AM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


Posted by: IRISH 249
Dude, you played almost 8000 games of Reach. Let me write that again . . . 8000 GAMES PLAYED. And you think " most of it is crap.".

Unfriggingbelievable.

You will not get me to believe you think Reach sucks based on your past behavior.

How could you possibly spend so much time playing something that "is crap"???


Unreal.

My tolerance for Reach's terrible default settings don't make it any less of a broken game.

  • 04.15.2012 10:48 AM PDT

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10,000 games played 10 fflipping thousand games played.

And "default Reach is awful".

Do you not see the inconsistency of your opinion and your behavior??

This is freaking crazy!!

And your opinion that since Bungie is bad at their game, they don't understand how the components of their game - that THEY CREATED- effect gameplay is almost laughable.

Dude, at least compose a logical argument.




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Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: Sgt Commando

Posted by: Kira Onime
Couldnt tell you, but I dont see how that is relevant in anyway. Im judging the game itself, not the people who play it.

tiny little discrepancies in gameplay become much more apparent when you're good at the game yourself, playing against other good players.

that's why when bungie playtests games they miss so many things, because they suck ass at the game. they aren't good enough to notice those little details.

Exactly this. Bungie's too bad at their own game to realize that things like bloom and jetpacks break the game at a competitive level. I play this game a lot, and I'm not very good (but still better than almost all of the random population), and I can still tell you that default Reach is awful.

  • 04.15.2012 10:48 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: IRISH 249


How many times did bungie get steaked during their "Bungie vs the world" day?

Most Bungie employees are terrible.

  • 04.15.2012 10:51 AM PDT

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You can "hope" a game undergoes alterations that will enable you to enjoy it more. I understand that.

However, I am speaking of the "Reach Haters" (See Subject Line).

There are innumerable people on this site creating/writing threads expressing their strong dislike of Reach. They often, have played a high number of games which undercuts their position that they hate Reach.

if you believe I am "trying to make people feel stupid"' I suggest you be mindful of those who claim they hate Reach and then go on to play thousands of games of Reach.

Again, Pokeman sucks. You don't see me playing thousands of games of Pokeman.


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IRISH 249

Has it ever crossed your mind that some of us actually had hope for this game to get better and go back in the right path?


You seem so focused so much on the action taken and trying to make the other look stupid, that you fail to look for a reason of the taken actions.

  • 04.15.2012 10:56 AM PDT

I like Reach. Better customization including armor and forge, finally got rid of the roflnoskill-battlerifle, better firefight, and better matchmaking than Halo 3 (in my opinion). I will give you that the campaign sucks but I can't really see what people hate so much about it, unless it's just the over-competitive players complaining about balance.

Personally I will probably be playing Reach more than Halo 4 when it comes out seeing as that sounds like it will be a disapointment.

[Edited on 04.15.2012 11:03 AM PDT]

  • 04.15.2012 10:57 AM PDT

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