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Subject: You know what? Screw it. I take everything I said back.

Ever wonder what's up there?

From now on, I'll stop defending Reach like I used to. I take everything I said about Reach being a good game back. I guess I was trying to give myself more self esteem by defending this atrocity just because I am an Inheritor, since I don't have any other "Max Ranks" in any other game and couldn't get a 50 on my own on Halo 3.

Let's be honest here now.

I tried to lie myself into believing Reach was a good game. I really, really tried. But things are shamefully what they are. I can no longer say it is "a good game but a bad Halo" like I used to.

The game sucks big time. The community complained for a full damn year to what I used to believe were "deaf ears", but the reality here is, Bungie just didn't care from the beginning. Bungie literally abandoned the community way before Halo Reach was launched, and that low, LOW move just proved me how good developers they truly are, anc convinced me to never buy another game from them.

I can't blame the community like I used to anymore. It's been enough already. Players will always exploit the most overpowered stuff they can find, just like they will exploit Forerunner Vision in Halo 4, or the most OP loadout in the same game. The game has to deliver for it to be good, not the players.

The arrival of 343 just turned what was already a piece of crap into an enormous pile of bull-blam!-. Just look at it! Just LOOK at Reach as what it is now!

We have a -blam!- slaped, messed up, son of a whore game.

There is Default Reach: everyone whoring Armor Lock and Jetpack, spamming whatever they can and getting tons and tons of lucky kills;

Title Updated Reach: with Call of Duty kill times, more Jetpacks than ever and lots of tryhards. This TU has eaten almost half of the entire game, just because 343 was stupid enough to tweak, and not to actually remove, Armor Lock. They opted to alter the rules of the game instead of just doing what any human being in his common sense would and could have done: Remove it with the already in-game settings.

Anniversary Reach: oh boy, these playlists will NEVER be removed. That's what I hate the freaking most about them. Not only are they a constant Magnum bleedthrough fest, but the settings are all messed up an combine both TU, Anniversary, TU Anniversary, Slayer Pro, and switch power weapons spawns constantly in both versions of every map. Not to mention how it fails to implement Overshields and the annoying jump-height you have to switch between games.

And don't forget how screwed are DLC purchasers. DLC buyers have had the Noble Map Pack playlist removed, the Defiant Map Pack playlist removed, the Anniversary Squad playlist removed, the Premium Slayer playlist removed, the Premium Battle playlist removed, and 343 is now threatening to remove the Squad DLC playlist, which features Assault Rifle spawns in Highlands, Breakpoint and Breakneck. Not to mention you have to play with Anniversary settings in order to "enjoy" Anniversary maps.

*I'm literally laughing at this point* I'm not buying any Halo 4 DLC util I get at least 7 DLC-only playlists. Multi-Team, BTB, Super Slayer, Action Sack, Firefight Arcade and Infection should all be DLC-required by this point.

I have opened my eyes now. I now see why people are so freaked out, pissed off and turned off for Halo 4. I can't think of any aspect of Reach's multiplayer that could be added to Halo 4 (aside from what has been anounced already) in order to enhance the experience of what I used to love in Halo.

>lolGray Forgeworld?
>lolInvincibility?
>lolBloom randomness?
>lolPineapple grenades?
>lolSlow movement / puny jump height?
>lolNew weapons like the Plasma Launcer?
>lolPathetic default maps?

No. Just no. I can't believe Bungie never thought about playing some Armor Lock-only slayer matches. I can't believe Bungie actually thought that a gray-only forge world would be appealing after 3 months.

I can't believe Bungie implemented remade Halo maps with Jetpacks in the game. I can't believe Bungie blocked off 50% of Zealot, the sniper balcony in Boardwalk, and the 4th level of Countdown. I can't believe Spire and Boneyard were only played in one half of the map outside Invasion.

But what I can't believe, truly never expected, never saw coming, and will never forget, is how Bungie abandoned us before releasing the game. At least CoD gets patched. At least Battlefield gets patched. At least Gears of War gets patched. At least Homefront gets patched. But not Reach.

Not Reach...

It has been a long journey. I don't care if the Mods ban me for anything that I said. I just wanted to give one last rant before I leave Reach behind, grab Black Ops, and move on. I might play it again for my purchased DLC, or even Firefight every now and then, since I'm proud to say I'm a DLC and Firefight-Inheritor.

Default Reach sucks. TU Reach sucks. Anniversary Reach sucks. And I'm truly glad that Halo is becoming Call of Duty. For those of you who didn't read, don't worry. You'll one day find on your own the message I was trying to give. If you keep playing Reach, that is.

Rant over, and now I'mma get some food. Peace out.

  • 04.15.2012 4:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: angello22

There might just be hope for the others like him out there.

  • 04.15.2012 4:12 PM PDT

*slow clap*

  • 04.15.2012 4:14 PM PDT

Posted by: General Dripik
When I play to win I voice message people call outs.

Congratulations. You've just wasted 15 minutes writing what has already been stated time and time again.

[Edited on 04.15.2012 4:19 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2012 4:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: BansheeBomb
Congratulations. You've just wasted 15 minutes writing what has already been stated time and time again.


This guy was often listed as "the thread retard" in many threads.

  • 04.15.2012 4:22 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

*sniffle* they're learning. :')

  • 04.15.2012 4:23 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: Mikelp_1
*sniffle* they're learning. :')


No no no no.


They're "ADAPTING".

  • 04.15.2012 4:24 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Mikelp_1
*sniffle* they're learning. :')


No no no no.


They're "ADAPTING".



xD

  • 04.15.2012 4:24 PM PDT

Answer me this, does anyone here give a damn?

  • 04.15.2012 4:28 PM PDT

Posted by: General Dripik
When I play to win I voice message people call outs.

And not a single -blam!- was given that day
Posted by: DillyDawgDillon
Answer me this, does anyone here give a damn?

  • 04.15.2012 4:31 PM PDT

dont like my driving? stay off the sidewalk

GREAT SCOTT!! SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL!!

  • 04.15.2012 4:34 PM PDT

Founder of Team Reclaimer where we specialize in Big Team Battle and Invasion games. We are all about Communication, Dedication and Fun.

the converting is strong in this one x).

  • 04.15.2012 5:21 PM PDT

I <3 Halo:Reach - amazingly fun and best campaign + amazing Soundtrack
I <3 Halo 3:ODST - best soundtrack + Firefight + Coastal Highway and Mombassa Streets, amazingly unique campaign.
I <3 Halo 3 - best multiplayer levels + Forge + best Custom Games + soundtrack
I <3 Halo 2 - amazing huge fun campaign + soundtrack + Fun multiplayer
I <3 Halo: CE - started it all

WHAT A ORIGINAL THREAD GUIZ!

  • 04.15.2012 5:31 PM PDT

I <3 Halo:Reach - amazingly fun and best campaign + amazing Soundtrack
I <3 Halo 3:ODST - best soundtrack + Firefight + Coastal Highway and Mombassa Streets, amazingly unique campaign.
I <3 Halo 3 - best multiplayer levels + Forge + best Custom Games + soundtrack
I <3 Halo 2 - amazing huge fun campaign + soundtrack + Fun multiplayer
I <3 Halo: CE - started it all

By the way OP, I'll see you on Bungie's next game.

  • 04.15.2012 5:32 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids

Bout damn time you joined the smart ones.

However TU Reach is at least decent. Go back and play Team Slayer after playing anything Title Updated and proceed to punch yourself in the dick til the game ends. This game was atrocious at launch, but is now bearable and in some ways, enjoyable.

We can only hope 343 learned a few lessons with this game and can salvage those lessons and save the Halo franchise.

Also your bit about Bungie - I think they were just trying a different style of gaming for this Halo game. And I think it killed them deep down that they COULDN'T TU the game or fix it themselves - they were under contract and Microsoft wouldn't let them. I honestly think Bungie would have fixed the game sooner if they could have - judging from talk with Achronos and other Bungie employees I've heard off the clock.

  • 04.15.2012 5:36 PM PDT

WALL OF SHAME-Posting stupidity since 2010
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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


Posted by: boomdeyadah
*slow clap*

  • 04.15.2012 6:58 PM PDT

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Reason: A Bungie.net Forum Moderator has banned you for violating the code of conduct and/or rules of the forum in the thread below

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wtf

That's a nice avatar. Also, icwutudidthar

  • 04.15.2012 7:01 PM PDT

Breaking barriers.


Posted by: Mikelp_1
*sniffle* they're learning. :')

  • 04.15.2012 7:56 PM PDT

Default and TU both have flaws. I wish they would just pick one, because moving from TU to non-TU playlists and vice-versa is really disorientating. I think you could fix 99% of default Reach's problems if you just toned down grenades and got rid of bloom and AL. Default's lack of bleed-through, double melee nonsense, jetpack, etc. pissed me off at first, but it's a little late in the game to fix some of it--I can't speak for everyone else, but after a year and a half I've adapted to some of this game's lesser atrocities.

On a side note, it always makes me laugh to see responses like "LOL NO 1 CARES BRAH." Discussion is the reason that forums exist. If you don't want to see other people talk, you are quite literally in the wrong place.

  • 04.15.2012 7:58 PM PDT

Don't worry about mods. This isn't Waypoint. And I agree with what you said about Halo becoming Call of Duty. I read the article in Gameinformer, and I am now certain they just put the put the last nail on the grave of competition in Halo.

What really hurts most of all is the community complaining about it for YEARS, and then they pretend they can't hear us. It doesn't make sense to me. They would still have Living Dead, they have Grifball, they have Team Slayer, why can't they just make ONE playlist committed to players who want competitive Reach. (Arena sucks, MLG is OK.) They also make "Super Slayer" which appeared OK until 343 comes up with the idea of re-adding Armor Lock. (Squad Slayer being its Forerunner. How I miss it.)

[Edited on 04.15.2012 8:10 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2012 8:02 PM PDT

There's always room for you, If you want to be my friend.

Adaption Status: Successful

  • 04.15.2012 8:05 PM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.

Ok...

  • 04.15.2012 8:06 PM PDT

There's always room for you, If you want to be my friend.


Posted by: TurnedSculpture
Ok...

You're next.

  • 04.15.2012 8:07 PM PDT

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I agree, Reach team wasn't fully committed with the game at all.

Also, 343i are just going the wrong way focusing on COD multiplayer rather then the trilogy of Halo that was famous for it's simplicity.

  • 04.15.2012 8:17 PM PDT

Hanger one I just shredded with the SMGs until ammo was out and I just threw 'nades like a boss while BRing.

My experience playing Cairo Station on Legendary

I can't believe it has taken you this long to realize this. I pop on Reach every few weeks to play a few matches and I cannot stand a thing about the multiplayer.

Maybe Reach isn't a terrible game as a stand alone, but it's an abomination of a Halo title. It's as though the premise of Halo was thrown out the window and they wanted to make an entirely different game on its own, but use loose-universe foundation.

Also, the HUD sucks. Your reticle often blends with the skybox of the maps, especially Forge World. I cannot imagine how the color blind find this.

Halo 2 has the best campaign (Followed by ODST, in my opinion.), and Halo 3 has the best multiplayer (Just the right amount of everything: Forge, game changing Equipment, Custom Game options).

Halo 4 seems like another step away from Core Halo and another step into a completely different series.

  • 04.15.2012 8:22 PM PDT

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