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Posted by: Guns n Stuff
I tried to find statistical backing but I don't think there is any. That being said, are you kidding? 18 months later and this game gets 110k online at most. So many people sold this game back it's not even funny. So I'll stand by my "random -blam!-" as fact because I see no way for you to disprove it. You can't argue this game didn't fall from popularity quickly.


When did 100,000 players become bad?
Aside from MW3, most other games I see with player counters barely hit even 10,000 or less.

  • 04.16.2012 11:51 AM PDT


Posted by: WolfSpirit

Posted by: Guns n Stuff
I tried to find statistical backing but I don't think there is any. That being said, are you kidding? 18 months later and this game gets 110k online at most. So many people sold this game back it's not even funny. So I'll stand by my "random -blam!-" as fact because I see no way for you to disprove it. You can't argue this game didn't fall from popularity quickly.

When did 100,000 players become bad?
Aside from MW3, most other games I see with player counters barely hit even 10,000 or less.
You quoted me out of context. The argument was comparing Halo Reach to Halo 3, and in comparison to Halo 3's population at 18 months, 100 000 or so players at most is bad.

[Edited on 04.16.2012 11:54 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 11:53 AM PDT

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MW 3 includes ALL players who logged in THAT day. If I log off, I am still in their counter for that day.

If I log off Reach, I am off the counter.


Posted by: WolfSpirit

Posted by: Guns n Stuff
I tried to find statistical backing but I don't think there is any. That being said, are you kidding? 18 months later and this game gets 110k online at most. So many people sold this game back it's not even funny. So I'll stand by my "random -blam!-" as fact because I see no way for you to disprove it. You can't argue this game didn't fall from popularity quickly.


When did 100,000 players become bad?
Aside from MW3, most other games I see with player counters barely hit even 10,000 or less.

  • 04.16.2012 11:58 AM PDT

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Dude, you played 200 games of H3.
And 85,000 was a good day on H3.


Posted by: Guns n Stuff

Posted by: WolfSpirit

Posted by: Guns n Stuff
I tried to find statistical backing but I don't think there is any. That being said, are you kidding? 18 months later and this game gets 110k online at most. So many people sold this game back it's not even funny. So I'll stand by my "random -blam!-" as fact because I see no way for you to disprove it. You can't argue this game didn't fall from popularity quickly.

When did 100,000 players become bad?
Aside from MW3, most other games I see with player counters barely hit even 10,000 or less.
You quoted me out of context. The argument was comparing Halo Reach to Halo 3, and in comparison to Halo 3's population at 18 months, 100 000 or so players at most is bad.

  • 04.16.2012 12:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: IRISH 249
You are comparing Reach to other games. . . If we are comparing Halo numbers, you need to compare Halo numbers. . .

Look at the charts. . . the number of H3 games played after 77 months is 11.5 Billion. This includes ODST numbers.

There have been 3.9 Billion Halo Reach games played in approximately 18 months.

Reach is destroying the H3 numbers . . . even if you include the increase in xbox live accounts.


I did compare Halo to Halo
Read again.



H3 = #1 game for 3 years.
Reach = Is it even in the top5? Also held #1 top for 1 month.. maybe 2.


H3 Had 200k players at any given time.
Reach is happy when you find more than 100k.


Should Reach "crush" H3 numbers, they would have to log 10B games within a 3rd of the lifespan it took to log 4B.

Reach will never surpass H3 playtime numbers.

  • 04.16.2012 12:04 PM PDT


Posted by: IRISH 249
Dude, you played 200 games of H3.
And 85,000 was a good day on H3.


Posted by: Guns n Stuff

Posted by: WolfSpirit

Posted by: Guns n Stuff
I tried to find statistical backing but I don't think there is any. That being said, are you kidding? 18 months later and this game gets 110k online at most. So many people sold this game back it's not even funny. So I'll stand by my "random -blam!-" as fact because I see no way for you to disprove it. You can't argue this game didn't fall from popularity quickly.

When did 100,000 players become bad?
Aside from MW3, most other games I see with player counters barely hit even 10,000 or less.
You quoted me out of context. The argument was comparing Halo Reach to Halo 3, and in comparison to Halo 3's population at 18 months, 100 000 or so players at most is bad.

This isn't my original account. I played over 2000 games of Halo 3 under this account and countless more under as a guest before I got an Xbox. That being said, Halo 3 averaged much higher population counts than Reach.

[Edited on 04.16.2012 12:10 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 12:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IRISH 249
You are comparing Reach to other games. . . If we are comparing Halo numbers, you need to compare Halo numbers. . .

Look at the charts. . . the number of H3 games played after 77 months is 11.5 Billion. This includes ODST numbers.

There have been 3.9 Billion Halo Reach games played in approximately 18 months.

Reach is destroying the H3 numbers . . . even if you include the increase in xbox live accounts.


I did compare Halo to Halo
Read again.



H3 = #1 game for 3 years.
Reach = Is it even in the top5? Also held #1 top for 1 month.. maybe 2.


H3 Had 200k players at any given time.
Reach is happy when you find more than 100k.


Should Reach "crush" H3 numbers, they would have to log 10B games within a 3rd of the lifespan it took to log 4B.

Reach will never surpass H3 playtime numbers.


Halo 3 was also the first next-gen Halo on the Xbox 360, plus the final game in a hyped trilogy.
Reach has come much later into the console lifespan that has seen some pretty rapid changes in what is popular for gaming, with much tougher competition to boot. There's no way it wouldn't take a community hit.

Whatever Halo in this newest series by 343 that comes out on the next console will most likely perform similar.

[Edited on 04.16.2012 12:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 12:30 PM PDT

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This should be said again because it is what has led to great misunderstanding when comparing Reach numbers to other game numbers. . . .

MW 3 includes ALL players who logged in THAT day. If I log off, I am still in their counter for that day.

If I log off Reach, I am off the counter.

If Reach counted all who logged in and kept them in the count, their numbers would be overinflated like MW3

  • 04.16.2012 12:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: wcd45
Jetpack's fun, AL is just awful.


Jetpack is worst then AL.

But my backpack's got jets.
(+1 for the people that know the reference.)

[Edited on 04.16.2012 1:14 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 1:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: WolfSpirit
Halo 3 was also the first next-gen Halo on the Xbox 360, plus the final game in a hyped trilogy.
Reach has come much later into the console lifespan that has seen some pretty rapid changes in what is popular for gaming, with much tougher competition to boot. There's no way it wouldn't take a community hit.


H3 had a just as though competition as Reach had.
That doesn't really hold.

I do have to say Reach not only failed to attract new players, they lost their own population.

"Don't change a winning formula".
Halo was doing perfectly fine without all the new bullcrap Reach introduced.

  • 04.16.2012 1:14 PM PDT

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The reviews time and again stated Reach was the best Halo game released.

Time to accept it was a good game.

Otherwise, why the hell are you still on the Reach forums?


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: WolfSpirit
Halo 3 was also the first next-gen Halo on the Xbox 360, plus the final game in a hyped trilogy.
Reach has come much later into the console lifespan that has seen some pretty rapid changes in what is popular for gaming, with much tougher competition to boot. There's no way it wouldn't take a community hit.


H3 had a just as though competition as Reach had.
That doesn't really hold.

I do have to say Reach not only failed to attract new players, they lost their own population.

"Don't change a winning formula".
Halo was doing perfectly fine without all the new bullcrap Reach introduced.

  • 04.16.2012 7:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: IRISH 249
The reviews time and again stated Reach was the best Halo game released.


You do realize reviews mean nothing right?
Those scores are based on the personnal/biased opinions of the ones doing the review.



Posted by: IRISH 249
Time to accept it was a good game.



You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!


DO I have to copy it on a usb drive and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine and then transfer it to you before you -blam!- understand?

  • 04.16.2012 8:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!

You seem mad about someones opinion.

  • 04.16.2012 8:08 PM PDT

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  • 04.16.2012 8:09 PM PDT


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Posted by: wcd45
Jetpack's fun, AL is just awful.


Jetpack is worst then AL.

Jet pack's current implementation is bad. However, the concept itself is not bad, it just needs better implementation (like that in Star Wars Battlefront 2).

[Edited on 04.16.2012 8:12 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Kira Onime

You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!

You seem mad about someones opinion.


If by "opinion", you mean "inability to understand basic, black on white english text", then yes, you are correct.

  • 04.16.2012 8:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Kira Onime

You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!

You seem mad about someones opinion.


If by "opinion", you mean "inability to understand basic, black on white english text", then yes, you are correct.

I haven't been reading this entire thread, but from what I gathered, you dislike him because he thinks Reach is a good Halo game. I think racing is a dumb sport but I don't call NASCAR fans retards.

  • 04.16.2012 8:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Kira Onime

You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!

You seem mad about someones opinion.


If by "opinion", you mean "inability to understand basic, black on white english text", then yes, you are correct.

I haven't been reading this entire thread, but from what I gathered, you dislike him because he thinks Reach is a good Halo game. I think racing is a dumb sport but I don't call NASCAR fans retards.
He keeps missing the point. He's painfully oblivious, so I agree with Kira on this.

  • 04.16.2012 8:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: InvasionImminent

I haven't been reading this entire thread, but from what I gathered, you dislike him because he thinks Reach is a good Halo game. I think racing is a dumb sport but I don't call NASCAR fans retards.


My last 6 or 7 post have been trying to get in his thick skull that I consider Reach to be a decent game compared to what is out on the market but, I consider it a bad HALO GAME.



I have no idea if he's purposely acting retarded or is retarded.

[Edited on 04.16.2012 8:38 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 8:37 PM PDT

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Such a temper.

Wow.

Must have struck a chord.

Do you recognize the irony of your statement, "those scores are based on personal biased opinions of the ones doing the review"?

Thank you for finally accepting my position as the true position. Those that say Reach sucks are making a subjective conclusion not based in fact. Your opinion that Reach sucks is your opinion, not fact.

You walked right into that one.



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Posted by: IRISH 249
The reviews time and again stated Reach was the best Halo game released.


You do realize reviews mean nothing right?
Those scores are based on the personnal/biased opinions of the ones doing the review.



Posted by: IRISH 249
Time to accept it was a good game.



You're -blam!- retarded.
Last time I'm saying it.

Reach is a decent game COMPARED TO OTHER TITLES ON THE MARKED.
Reach is a piss poor HALO GAME!


DO I have to copy it on a usb drive and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine and then transfer it to you before you -blam!- understand?

  • 04.16.2012 8:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: IRISH 249


Let's see this again.

H3, #1 for 3 years.
Reach.... #1 for 1 month.



Reach is a terrible Halo game.
The numbers speak for themselves.


Also, most review are made when the game is still fresh.
Once the hype drops down can it be actually reviewed properly.



So my point still stands and the numbers speak for themselves.
Halo lost it's fanbase to CoD.

[Edited on 04.16.2012 8:42 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2012 8:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
Posted by: IRISH 249


Let's see this again.

H3, #1 for 3 years.
Reach.... #1 for 1 month.



Reach is a terrible Halo game.
The numbers speak for themselves.


Also, most review are made when the game is still fresh.
Once the hype drops down can it be actually reviewed properly.



So my point still stands and the numbers speak for themselves.
Halo lost it's fanbase to CoD.


If the numbers speak for themselves:
In your opinion, is MW3 the greatest game of all time?
followed by CoD BO? then MW2?

OT, I honestly think Bungie truly made a game that they would enjoy, without the burden of preserving a franchise which they no longer own.

  • 04.17.2012 12:56 AM PDT

I actually do have a small conspiracy about Halo, but IDK if y'all wanna hear it :/

  • 04.17.2012 1:56 AM PDT

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I'll bite, what's your theory?

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I actually do have a small conspiracy about Halo, but IDK if y'all wanna hear it :/

  • 04.17.2012 7:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IRISH 249


Bungie even managed to turn off casual players.



THe smart move would of been to make a game that would be good for everyone, not just 1 group.


The only problem with that is the fact that NO ONE will ever create a game that is liked by everyone. It is impossible. One way or another there WILL be a group of people that WONT like the game for whatever reason.

  • 04.17.2012 8:24 AM PDT