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Subject: Halo Story arc - just not that good.
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There's no point argueing about this anymore. Your stubborn, i'm stubborn, everyone's stubborn.

  • 06.02.2006 12:23 PM PDT
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Isn't Sgt Johnson's existense in Halo 2 proof enough that he didn't die in Halo 1? Let's think back on what we know about death here. Something about death not being living. Sgt Johnson seems to be living in Halo 2.

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  • 06.02.2006 12:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caer Bannog
and one PM from Achronos to a member...a PM, incidentally, can't be verified.


You can ask Achronos yourself if the ending was canon or not.

  • 06.02.2006 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
No you didn't. You saw a situation that looked like he was going to die, where everyone else died that was with him, and thus assumed he died even though you weren't actually shown the deathblow.

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Whatever, I saw the Sarge die.



You know what happens when Achronos is an ass right? You get perma banned because he thinks he rocks. TOM ACHRONOS, YOU SUCK!!! Ha ban me. I don't care. I got 3 more accounts. Plus, I am not too worried. You don't scare me with that -blam!-ish avatar with a stupid lightening bolt. Ha your a loser. Go put together a computer or something.

  • 06.02.2006 12:27 PM PDT
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nvm

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  • 06.02.2006 12:27 PM PDT

It's fun when we win and funny when we lose: Le Mediocrity
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Come take your verbal beating like a man in THE CAVE

As the OG poster of this thread, I can tell you that neither the Sarge's death nor the story lines from the books are on topic. I was merely pointing out that, if you take the in-game character development and story line, there is simply not a whole lot there. The overarching concepts are excellent, but the execution of those concepts in the game are quite shallow and are no more than heroic soldier and tough sergeant stereotypes. The dialog is mostly wooden (with the exception of Cortana I guess), predictable 1 liners on the human side and unintelligible alien diatribes about some amorphous prophecy on the other side.

Good for a FPS no doubt, and I'm a huge Halo fan, but the dialog, storyline, and character development just doesn't cut the mustard when compared to other science fiction dramas.

That is all.

Edit: I just saw the latest posts above .. the thread DOOMED! DOOMED I tell you!


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  • 06.02.2006 12:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: LiL ClAy 123
Posted by: Achronos
No you didn't. You saw a situation that looked like he was going to die, where everyone else died that was with him, and thus assumed he died even though you weren't actually shown the deathblow.

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Whatever, I saw the Sarge die.



You know what happens when Achronos is an ass right? You get perma banned because he thinks he rocks. TOM ACHRONOS, YOU SUCK!!! Ha ban me. I don't care. I got 3 more accounts. Plus, I am not too worried. You don't scare me with that -blam!-ish avatar with a stupid lightening bolt. Ha your a loser. Go put together a computer or something.


wtf is wrong with you clay? Go find a friend

  • 06.02.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: LiL ClAy 123
Posted by: Achronos
No you didn't. You saw a situation that looked like he was going to die, where everyone else died that was with him, and thus assumed he died even though you weren't actually shown the deathblow.

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Whatever, I saw the Sarge die.



You know what happens when Achronos is an ass right? You get perma banned because he thinks he rocks. TOM ACHRONOS, YOU SUCK!!! Ha ban me. I don't care. I got 3 more accounts. Plus, I am not too worried. You don't scare me with that -blam!-ish avatar with a stupid lightening bolt. Ha your a loser. Go put together a computer or something.


Achronos wasn't being an ass, he was giving vital clues to what happened to the Sarge. If you had a thirst for knowledge like I do, you would have recognized what he said and, more importantly, what he didn't say....

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  • 06.02.2006 12:33 PM PDT
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To Wiltron

But actually you just said Halo story arc as title, which could be interpreted differently.
See, i and some others interpretted it to mean the whole halo phenomenon, which includes all the novels, games, ect. But to each his own, right.

Anyway i like the way the story has progressed and i cant wait for the finishing of the story in H3

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  • 06.02.2006 12:35 PM PDT
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I consider the story a great thing, I mean it gets things from the bible, The Flood, The Ark, Halos, I don't see anything wrong with it.

  • 06.02.2006 12:36 PM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Posted by: LiL ClAy 123
Posted by: Achronos
No you didn't. You saw a situation that looked like he was going to die, where everyone else died that was with him, and thus assumed he died even though you weren't actually shown the deathblow.

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Whatever, I saw the Sarge die.



You know what happens when Achronos is an ass right? You get perma banned because he thinks he rocks. TOM ACHRONOS, YOU SUCK!!! Ha ban me. I don't care. I got 3 more accounts. Plus, I am not too worried. You don't scare me with that -blam!-ish avatar with a stupid lightening bolt. Ha your a loser. Go put together a computer or something.


Achronos wasn't being an ass, he was giving vital clues to what happened to the Sarge. If you had a thirst for knowledge like I do, you would have recognized what he said and, more importantly, what he didn't say....


It's obvious your thirst has been dry for a long, long time. There's obviously been more than enough evidence presented to contradict you but you ignore it. So what's the point.

Oh...here's something that "she" sent me in a PM

Caer Bannog




Sent: 6/2/2006

Subject: Hardcore Democrat

I'm smoking w33d and screwing another man as we type.

Go fight your war, neoc►nt!!11!!


Reaking of maturity.

  • 06.02.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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To Caer,

to continue this argument would be pointless. lets just agree to disagree.

  • 06.02.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: Caer Bannog
Posted by: LiL ClAy 123
Posted by: Achronos
No you didn't. You saw a situation that looked like he was going to die, where everyone else died that was with him, and thus assumed he died even though you weren't actually shown the deathblow.

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Posted by: Caer Bannog
Whatever, I saw the Sarge die.



You know what happens when Achronos is an ass right? You get perma banned because he thinks he rocks. TOM ACHRONOS, YOU SUCK!!! Ha ban me. I don't care. I got 3 more accounts. Plus, I am not too worried. You don't scare me with that -blam!-ish avatar with a stupid lightening bolt. Ha your a loser. Go put together a computer or something.


Achronos wasn't being an ass, he was giving vital clues to what happened to the Sarge. If you had a thirst for knowledge like I do, you would have recognized what he said and, more importantly, what he didn't say....


It's obvious your thirst has been dry for a long, long time. There's obviously been more than enough evidence presented to contradict you but you ignore it. So what's the point.

Oh...here's something that "she" sent me in a PM

Caer Bannog




Sent: 6/2/2006

Subject: Hardcore Democrat

I'm smoking w33d and screwing another man as we type.

Go fight your war, neoc►nt!!11!!


Reaking of maturity.



More character assassination since you can't make an argument. That's just shameful.

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  • 06.02.2006 12:38 PM PDT
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Caer, you ruin your own image. You sent me a stupid message just like that one and thats why I replied and blocked you. But thats enough fighting for me and the authors right we all did get off topic.

  • 06.02.2006 12:40 PM PDT

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To Wiltron

But actually you just said Halo story arc as title, which could be interpreted differently.
...


I clarified a bit on pages 4 and 7 (I think) where I said the in-game development had to stand on it's own since the vast majority of players will never read the books. Since we're trying to steer clear of the character assassination and flame wars, we can start over with that in mind.

On your mark, get set, GO!

  • 06.02.2006 12:43 PM PDT
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*sprinting*

*more sprinting*

*jumps over boulder*

*panting*

*collapsing*

*heart attack*

  • 06.02.2006 12:46 PM PDT

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I'm locking this.

The ending was a joke, hence the elite grabbing Johnson's ass.

If I could ban people for stupidity, quite a few of you would be going, and yess, that includes you Caer Bannog.

You've had responses from moderators, members and a Bungie Employee stating the obvious, and if you still aren't getting it, it's because you are either stubborn or thick, and I don't care to see this kind of ridiculous argument anymore.

  • 06.02.2006 12:49 PM PDT
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I absolutely agree that the story needs to stand on its own. And its fine, but not great. Do I really care about MC? No, not really. And I emotionally attatched to him? Not really. Do I feel that Bungie's storytelling is great? No. Is it fun? Yes. Was I entertained? Totally. But not because the story was in anyway special. Nor to I have a whole lot of hope for Halo 3 on this point. Battle for earth...blah blah...ancient artifacts...blah blah...more religious aliens...blah blah.

Let's look at how original the characters are:
MC - Tough guy of few words. Knows out to get it down.
Sarge - Stereotypical screaming military guy.
Cortana - Sexy computer AI. Oh, and she goes all wacky. HAL with breasts.
Arbiter - Religious guy with crisis of faith.

Yawn.

  • 06.02.2006 12:53 PM PDT