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Posted by: Azrael203
SSJ 3 Goku obviously. He is more powerful than Vegeta. Think about it. When they had to fight Omega Shenron, Goku got to SSJ4 on his own. But Vegeta could only get to SSJ4 by the use of Bulma's machine. so if Vegeta has to skip SSJ3 and get to SSJ4 with the help of a machine, then Goku wins handsdown.
This is severely off topic, and I'm likely to get banned. But, I'll bite.
Vegeta couldn't get to SSJ4 himself because he didn't have a tail. Bulma's machine allowed him to ascend without the tail. Goku only achieved it because his tail grew back.
And what are you on about Goku at SSJ3 being stronger than SSJ4?
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