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Subject: Why does halo have such a bad community?
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*wonders how New Clan Recruitment For Shadow Pack thread gets 55 replies*

*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

*proceeds to read on, shakes head, and gently laughs*

Thats what happens when two side of the same community constantly pick at each other.

i.e. Philistines and Israelites

  • 04.17.2012 7:01 PM PDT

Hanger one I just shredded with the SMGs until ammo was out and I just threw 'nades like a boss while BRing.

My experience playing Cairo Station on Legendary

Reach's community is a special group. Not only is it filled with your run of the mill Haters of the game (Who insist on consistently playing), and the Halo Veterans who condemn the drastic changes from Halo 3 to Reach. I, myself, are included in this group.

Every game has its Casuals, Flamers, and Haters, but Reach is just special in this sense.

  • 04.17.2012 7:15 PM PDT


Posted by: BreakableNormal
Why does halo have such a bad community it seems as if once they want something they get it then hate it recently people have been bashing halo 4 for not having elites in multiplayer but it seems before the news was spread out everyone hated play as elites in reach i swear either gaming communities are getting bad or halo reach specifically has a bad community tell me what you think


I was actually thinking about the other part of the bad halo community. The players who go around berating everyone and having an egotistic elitist view on how 'pro' they are and how bad everyone else is. The typical k/d, ranks, and you all suck kind of threads get real old real fast.

The funny reality is nobody cares but they continue to do it and make the community more and more annoying to be a part of. I've really lost connection with the Halo community. As bad as it was in Halo 2/3 era it's gotten worse even with casual reach some players still seem to find a ways to put others down and be an elitist prick about everything. We don't care about your k/d, rank, or who you beat in derp arena. Go MLG pro or shutup about it lol

I am a competitive player in Halo games at heart but that doesn't mean I care to be a jerk about it. There are a lot of good players out there that don't show off, are nice, and while they are very good they don't need to prove anything because they know they will have good days and bad days and they always continue to improve and be a better player. But for every good player who is nice it only takes a handful of bad competitive players who really don't know what respect and constructive criticism is to make the entire community look like idiots.

  • 04.17.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Turkey

Nah, people just go on forums to complain. The Reach forum consists of people who are scared of change. Reach is amazing. Best Halo game gameplay-wise. Halo 4 is going to be revolutionary. I've always pictured Loadouts and a rewards-based leveling system working for Halo, and now my wish has come true. Everything good about COD4, the last good Call of Duty game and really the only game that could be considered a "Halo killer", is merging with Halo, the overall superior series, to make what could be one of the greatest FPS's ever.

As for your question, OP: Go on ANY game forum and there will be hate for the title everywhere. Except for maybe EVE Online (not counting the most recent expansion...)

[Edited on 04.17.2012 8:44 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2012 8:43 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Malceor
Nah, people just go on forums to complain. The Reach forum consists of people who are scared of change. Reach is amazing. Best Halo game gameplay-wise. Halo 4 is going to be revolutionary. I've always pictured Loadouts and a rewards-based leveling system working for Halo, and now my wish has come true. Everything good about COD4, the last good Call of Duty game and really the only game that could be considered a "Halo killer", is merging with Halo, the overall superior series, to make what could be one of the greatest FPS's ever.

As for your question, OP: Go on ANY game forum and there will be hate for the title everywhere. Except for maybe EVE Online (not counting the most recent expansion...)


I don't even need to link your stats.

  • 04.17.2012 8:50 PM PDT
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It's mainly the competitive community vs the casual community. They've been at each other's throats since Reach came out, mainly due to the fact that there are very few truly competitive playlists in Reach, asides from MLG and Arena (although Arena only works with a large population).

  • 04.17.2012 9:38 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: Mikelp_1
Lol Mark V Guy, why does the competitive community hate casuals? It's not because they exist and those "self proclaimed elitist pros" just hate anyone that isn't them; the competitive community hates the casuals because the casuals try to talk for all of Halo and what it should be.

1) You have competitive people hating a certain game mechanic and wanting change.

2) You get casuals that are completely indifferent to that same game mechanic, yet feel the need to keep it because they don't mind it because they have no in-depth knowledge on it. They base how top-tier competitive gaming should play based on the fact that they play like and with gamers that are pants-on-head retarded.


Competitive players want to change everything that affects them negatively, and casuals want to change everything that doesn't affect them/has no impact on them.


I've never seen that and I am certainly not like that. TBH it kind of reminds me of some of the competitive community around here, trying to talk for all that Halo should be.

  • 04.18.2012 12:16 AM PDT

Vote for me for a free cookie.

Full stops man.

  • 04.18.2012 1:30 AM PDT

Posted by: Mark V guy
I've never seen that
Waypoint.


/discussion

Also, lol @ you saying the competitive crowd speaks for halo Casuals can enjoy a competitive game, but it doesn't work the other way around.

[Edited on 04.18.2012 1:38 AM PDT]

  • 04.18.2012 1:36 AM PDT

Now then, tell me. What did Miggs say to you? Multiple Miggs in the next cell. He hissed at you. What did he say?


Posted by: Mark V guy
The Reach community sucks balls, partly because of butthurt kids and partly because of self proclaimed pros who are obsessed with true skill and think the game should be all competitive and deadly serious, and if you are a casual then you are a retard and a troll in their opinion


The truest statement I have ever read on the Reach forum.

  • 04.18.2012 2:05 AM PDT


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Posted by: Mikelp_1
Lol Mark V Guy, why does the competitive community hate casuals? It's not because they exist and those "self proclaimed elitist pros" just hate anyone that isn't them; the competitive community hates the casuals because the casuals try to talk for all of Halo and what it should be.

1) You have competitive people hating a certain game mechanic and wanting change.

2) You get casuals that are completely indifferent to that same game mechanic, yet feel the need to keep it because they don't mind it because they have no in-depth knowledge on it. They base how top-tier competitive gaming should play based on the fact that they play like and with gamers that are pants-on-head retarded.


Competitive players want to change everything that affects them negatively, and casuals want to change everything that doesn't affect them/has no impact on them.


This guy, this guy right here.


SAVED

  • 04.18.2012 3:46 AM PDT


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Malceor
Nah, people just go on forums to complain. The Reach forum consists of people who are scared of change. Reach is amazing. Best Halo game gameplay-wise. Halo 4 is going to be revolutionary. I've always pictured Loadouts and a rewards-based leveling system working for Halo, and now my wish has come true. Everything good about COD4, the last good Call of Duty game and really the only game that could be considered a "Halo killer", is merging with Halo, the overall superior series, to make what could be one of the greatest FPS's ever.

As for your question, OP: Go on ANY game forum and there will be hate for the title everywhere. Except for maybe EVE Online (not counting the most recent expansion...)


I don't even need to link your stats.


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  • 04.18.2012 3:47 AM PDT

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  • 04.18.2012 6:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bungie fan no7
Halo: 4? Ohh you mean Halo: Reach 2.


So a different company is going to make a different game with new weapons, storyline, and multiplayer but still call it 2?
Let me know how that makes sense.

  • 04.18.2012 6:27 AM PDT

Better luck next time buddy.

In Halo 3, that community had to be present but since the population in Reach is as low as 100K, we're stuck with the bad bunch of little whining kids.

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Posted by: Mark V guy
The Reach community sucks balls, partly because of butthurt kids and partly because of self proclaimed pros who are obsessed with true skill and think the game should be all competitive and deadly serious, and if you are a casual then you are a retard and a troll in their opinion

  • 04.18.2012 7:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Bungie fan no7
Halo: 4? Ohh you mean Halo: Reach 2.

your retarded first reach was destroyed second halo 4 is after 3 so my point proven of reach being destroyed use your brain kid

  • 04.18.2012 7:38 AM PDT

it's just a game does it matter what happens no so those who complain about having no bloom and those that complain about bloom just give up not all playlist are not going to be what you want give the scrubs there playlist and give the real tryhards theres but leave the average person that plays to play not to care what happens in any game or playlst be

  • 04.18.2012 7:47 AM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.

because 343 and bungie are crappy game devs

  • 04.18.2012 7:49 AM PDT

ohhhhh one more thing a bad community is mw2 or cod in general because i try to play fun game in either and there's always mod lobbies (mw2) rapid fire controllers (any) and modders in general (any) so quit complaining

  • 04.18.2012 7:52 AM PDT

daniel duarte

You really shouldn't judge a game prior to release.

  • 04.18.2012 5:45 PM PDT

daniel duarte


Posted by: Bungie fan no7
Halo: 4? Ohh you mean Halo: Reach 2.
You really shouldn't judge a game prior to release.

  • 04.18.2012 5:46 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

The community isn't the problem.

Think about it for a second, about what you said.

We -blam!- about something, get our way, and we -blam!- about that.
Why is that?

Because matchmaking forces everyone to feed from a limited selection of playlists.

Typically, in order to add something, they have to remove something first.

WHY IS THAT?

BECAUSE MATCHMAKING SUCKS!

We shouldn't even be here.
There is no good reason why anyone should have to sign up to a forum to beg the developer to update the playlists.
There is no good reason to funnel everyone down to only a handleful of playlist all in the name of avoiding "Spreading the population to thin"


Basically, because you're so concerned with trying to push 100k people into a single playlist...you get the current situation with so many matches turning to -blam!-. And the lack of join-in-progress just multiplies the issue.

At what point are you people satisified with the population ina playlists?

Do you want quantity matches?
Or do you want Quality matches?


THEN THIN THE POPULATION!

I'm sure some of you are going to misinterpret that. So let me be more specific.

One playlists per map/gametype.
IE. I shouldn't have to wade through 100 games of team slayer just to get 1 game of CTF when I pick BTB.

The reason I picked that playlist is because I was looking for a CTF game. Why is CTF buried?

And thus we're back to your excuse of trying to keep the population from spreading out.

And thus we're back to people quitting out of matches left and right.


I'd gladly wait an extra few minutes searching for a match if it meant:
1: It's exactly what I wanted to play
2: Most likely everyon else in the room also wanted to play it...which means.
3: The likely hood of someone quitting the match due to not liking the map/gametype just went to 0%.

I would go so far as to say that someone not liking the map/gametype they are in accounts for 90% of the reason most people quit.

Or rather

People are more likely to quit out of a losing match when they hate the map/gametype.

People are LESS likely to quit out of losing matches if they ENJOY the map/gametype that was chosen.

It's common -blam!- sense.


And if you need proof.
Just pay attention to how many matches end up with DNF's and compare that to what happened during the vote in the lobby.
Stop forcing people to play stupid -blam!-. There should be no voting process. Voting is necessary in life, because peoples lives are at stake. This is the virtual world where Anarchy is the supreme form of government.





What's the point of having Halo focus on a non-join-in-progress, start to finish only matchmaking style. When you know damn well someone is going to end up disconnecting from that match?

The way I see it, you have a choice.

You can have "Competitive Halo" (Start to finish, locks you in a lobby) and play your 4v3 or worse matches all day. (Because someone WILL quit)

Or

You can have Casual Halo in which your almost gauranteed to have an actual match that could be considered competitive, because the people will actually care...(except for the douchbags who think that you have to be there for the first 10 seconds or it's a waste of time)

Casual Halo = Join-in-Progress = Even teams = More choice on exact map/gametype = People actually giving a damn about the match.


If you ask me, If all the losers who cry and let their win/loss ratio decide how a game should handle it's community suddenly leave.... all the better.



TL:DR
Your insistance on making Halo revolve around your Win/Loss Ratio, is what drags it down.

[Edited on 04.20.2012 6:00 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 4:54 PM PDT

The people you play with are cocky tryhards, best leave them be.

Whilst shooting your dead body, your team has a chance at killing them.

  • 04.20.2012 6:05 PM PDT
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1) Because the Audience is 12-17
2) Because they are mad that they are the only ones dumb enough to pay for the Privilege to play online when EVERYONE else gets it free and even more stupid to defend why it is worth it to pay to play online.
3) They have small winkies...

  • 04.22.2012 6:18 AM PDT

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