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Subject: Would Halo 3 Still Be Alive?

I don't play much anymore.

If you find this too long and you're too lazy to read, here's a brief summary of what I'm trying to say:
The release of Halo Reach separated the Halo population since many still play and prefer Halo 3. Consequently, the overall Halo population has decreased. Because of this, I believe that if Halo Reach was never released, then the Halo player population in general would be much higher than it is today. Agree/Disagree?

Personally, I believe that Halo 3 would still be alive if Halo Reach was never released. I mean, I know that that's kind of obvious, but here's my reasoning: If Halo Reach never came out, then all the remaining fans (and possibly even some of the older fans) would still be playing Halo 3, rather than being split between the two games.

Personally, I stopped playing Halo 3 because a huge portion of the player population (including the majority of my friends) began playing Halo: Reach, a game that I never really liked. I'm also aware that I do not stand alone when I say that Halo 3 is a much better game than Reach (in terms of multiplayer, at least). Because of this, I've come to the conclusion that if Reach had never been released, then not only would the Halo 3 player population be greater, but the entire Halo fan population in general would be greater as well.

Why's that? Well Halo 3 and Reach are clearly two different games, and because of this, there's much controversy between which one Bungie's fans prefer. Also because of this, we fans are separated by our preference in gameplay and also the fact that many of us simply want to play the newer game. If that doesn't make sense, what I'm saying is that the release of Halo Reach has separated its fans between the old-school Halo 3 fans who prefer simpler games without jetpacks and armor locks and the current Halo fans who prefer the newer game with newer features.

Had Bungie ended the Halo series with Halo 3, all us fans would still be united under one game, and in turn, we might still have quite a few of the fans who, now, no longer play any Halo games. Instead of being split, the population for one game might have been greater than the combination of the populations between the two games.

I'm not here saying what should or shouldn't have happened. I just wanted to hear other's thoughts on this idea, if anyone would agree or disagree.

*It's a little late for me, so if something doesn't make any sense whatsoever, then I apologize. I may not be thinking clearly this time of day.

**Also, sorry if this goes against any of the Forum Rules (I didn't see anything against this, then again, I only skimmed over the rules briefly).

  • 04.19.2012 3:02 AM PDT
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"Yes sir, it is what it looks like, but i take no responsibility for their actions, sir."

Of course it will still be alive, Halo 3 is a good game, i mean, personally i still play it, it's like now, MW3 is out and yet people still play Call of Duty 4 even though it has been released a couple of years ago, same goes for Grand Theft Auto 4

  • 04.19.2012 8:13 AM PDT

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So much work, so much truth, so few posts. Such a shame.
Maybe there should be a game that lets you play all the old Halo games multiplayer with people using the old disks.

  • 04.19.2012 1:36 PM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Stop blaming reach for the loss of players in Halo 3. A 5 year old game will lose a ton of its players. Its natural.

New games come out, and most people move on.

[Edited on 04.19.2012 2:26 PM PDT]

  • 04.19.2012 2:06 PM PDT

Hanger one I just shredded with the SMGs until ammo was out and I just threw 'nades like a boss while BRing.

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How I miss Halo 3's prime days. The only way to enjoy it now is if you bring along some friends, or are a rank 50 player who can actually hold their own.

If Reach hadn't come out, I think that the DLC maps would have become mandatory for most playlists and I would have gotten a bit more use out of them than I did.

  • 04.19.2012 2:25 PM PDT

Agree..

Halo 2 was (online) a revolutionary game. Almost every XBOX owner played Halo online, also because there was no similar (and with similar I mean good) game. A lot of this players had high expectations of Halo 3, and because of the release of the 360, Halo 3 reached a lot of (new) players. Only diehards stayed at Halo 2.

The reason why everyone still played Halo 3 after 3 years, was because COD was the only (multiplayer) rival.

And then there was Reach.... EVERYONE was excited about the new game, a lot of people played the Beta. But the game felt different, no BR, armor abilities, no 1-50 level system, bloom etc. It just wasn't competitive enough. I, personally, couldn't get addicted to the game. I didn't even play to win, because you got EXP anyway.
I think Bungie wanted to reach more players, by making Reach noobfriendly (play a lot -> get EXP). This turned out to be a bad decision. Only the so called diehards and casual gamers play Reach, but the TRUE diehards stayed at Halo 3 (actually this is wrong, because the true diehards stayed at 2 and never went on to 3 but you get my point ;)).

If you look up statistics you can see that Halo 3 had far more players than Reach. Halo 3 still has a lot of players for an almost 5 year old game.

Even MLG is now f.ucked up, but the MLG time in Halo 3 was f.ucking awesome. Everybody knew the players and teams. Now I don't even care wich team play in the MLG series.

Overall Reach was a quickly made game to please the fans. The storyline (also weapons etc.) was completely f.u.cked up (Reach to Halo CE).

So if Reach was never made, tenthousands of people were still playing Halo 3 and Bungie or 343i was still making updates for Halo 3.

I try to play Halo 3 everyday, and I still enjoy it, and I always will enjoy it :). I really HOPE Halo 4 is in Halo 3 style and not like Reach (even the graphics).

  • 04.19.2012 2:29 PM PDT

Yep. Reach fkn sucks, but retards like it because it makes them feel less retarded. Without Reach, they'd still most likely be sucking at Halo 3.

  • 04.19.2012 11:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Steve
Yep. Reach fkn sucks, but retards like it because it makes them feel less retarded. Without Reach, they'd still most likely be sucking at Halo 3.


haha well now they have moved on to giving 343i a rimj0b every day because they are making halo 4...

reach was made for noobs, hence only one ranked playlist, which technically shouldn't even be considered ranked since it gets reset all the time

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  • 04.19.2012 11:24 PM PDT

somewhere in the heavens...they are waiting. I love the Marathon Trilogy.
Halo CE will always be the best game in the Halo franchise. What a perfect game.
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I think Reach divided and kinda harmed the Halo community as a whole. If Reach wasn't released I think Halo 3 would still be in the top 5 Xbox Live games.

  • 04.20.2012 11:03 AM PDT

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I don't think Reach is to blame. I just think it helped Halo 3 to a quicker death. Halo 3 was always going to die out, all great games do.

  • 04.20.2012 11:10 AM PDT

Halo: 3 is the best Halo game ever and it always will be.

  • 04.20.2012 11:29 AM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

It would only be alive if it still had matchmaking support.

  • 04.22.2012 6:56 AM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: killingfrenzy11
I don't think Reach is to blame. I just think it helped Halo 3 to a quicker death. Halo 3 was always going to die out, all great games do.
Meh cod 4 and Halo 3 could still dominate shooters like Battlefield 3 ect. The only problem would be graphics, but gameplay wise they are considered better than anything that's been released since.

  • 04.22.2012 6:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Halo: 3 is the best Halo game ever and it always will be.

QFT

  • 04.22.2012 11:04 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."

Yeah, it would be alive. I wouldn't say that it's dead right now, though. It would certainly have a lot of players, but everyone needs to accept this:
Halo 3 is almost 5 years old. Players are drawn away by other games. I'm not one of those players, but it happens. It sucks, but that's just what happens to old games. Even if Reach hadn't released, Halo 3 just wouldn't be like how it was in 2008.

[Edited on 04.22.2012 3:25 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2012 3:25 PM PDT

I firmly believe with updates and the lack of Halo 3: ODST, Wars, and Reach there would be still a solid, faithful Halo 3 Population. I would be a part of it.

  • 04.22.2012 5:35 PM PDT

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Definitely.

Though, I know many players went to play CoD and battlefield after the release of Reach because Halo 3 had been out for so long.


  • 04.22.2012 5:46 PM PDT

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Add me to your friends list if you haven't already. It's a lot more fun to play with people from The Maw and people I know than random noobs.

I usually just play CoD now because Halo 3 takes a while to find a good match and Reach just wasn't that much fun to me.

The ranking system with exp regardless of a win or loss wasn't very addicting and I was always getting frustrated with the annoying use of armor abilities, DMR bloom, and the awful maps the game shipped with.

Most if not all of the decent Reach made multiplayer maps are community maps made in forge world, which shows how bad the default maps were.

  • 04.23.2012 9:47 PM PDT

Based on the summary i do agree that the population would be higher. Not saying it would still hold 100,000+ since newer games are out. Yet, if H3 was the latest halo game still then ya the fans would be stuck on this.

I knew from the start bReach would kill halo3, i've had plenty of hate posts on it on the days before it was released :)

  • 04.23.2012 10:12 PM PDT