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Subject: Halo 4 Dyson Sphere/renegade flood Theory

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: johnthethird
It was built by a pack of renegade forerunner droids who have left the forerunners and who have joined up with a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.


Stopped reading here, there's so much wrong it ain't even funny...

I hope you find my theory informing of what is likely to happen. Please note that this could in fact be completely false, but it is just a theory that I have come up with.

Firstly, this is not, by any stretch of the mark, 'likely' to happen at all. Don't throw around your ideas like it's going to happen, this leads me to my next point: theories. I've grown to detest the word now because people throw it around like they're on to something, no... A theory is an educated idea based off facts and evidence, none of which I see here. "Renegade Flood" and "renegade Forerunner droids" my left nut!


Posted by: johnthethird
The final enemy to defeat will be their perfect creation who will wield a gravity hammer and have telikinesis. It will have a cutscene after you fight him for a while showing chief and the arbiter taking him down together.


And this... WTF is this bollocks?
PLEASE FRIEND you said you stopped reading it, but then you quoted and replied to the whole thing. please don't reply to parts of my amazing theory if you did not read the whole thing


I went back and read your convoluted drivel, please stop calling it a theory...

And I love how you totally ignored everything I pointed out, you're wrong and you know it.

  • 04.21.2012 3:48 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: johnthethird
It was built by a pack of renegade forerunner droids who have left the forerunners and who have joined up with a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.


Stopped reading here, there's so much wrong it ain't even funny...

I hope you find my theory informing of what is likely to happen. Please note that this could in fact be completely false, but it is just a theory that I have come up with.

Firstly, this is not, by any stretch of the mark, 'likely' to happen at all. Don't throw around your ideas like it's going to happen, this leads me to my next point: theories. I've grown to detest the word now because people throw it around like they're on to something, no... A theory is an educated idea based off facts and evidence, none of which I see here. "Renegade Flood" and "renegade Forerunner droids" my left nut!


Posted by: johnthethird
The final enemy to defeat will be their perfect creation who will wield a gravity hammer and have telikinesis. It will have a cutscene after you fight him for a while showing chief and the arbiter taking him down together.


And this... WTF is this bollocks?
PLEASE FRIEND you said you stopped reading it, but then you quoted and replied to the whole thing. please don't reply to parts of my amazing theory if you did not read the whole thing


I went back and read your convoluted drivel, please stop calling it a theory...

And I love how you totally ignored everything I pointed out, you're wrong and you know it.
no now see that's just an opinion. in your opinion it may be against cannon but in my opinion it is very likely to be cannon

  • 04.21.2012 11:04 AM PDT


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: johnthethird
It was built by a pack of renegade forerunner droids who have left the forerunners and who have joined up with a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.


Stopped reading here, there's so much wrong it ain't even funny...

I hope you find my theory informing of what is likely to happen. Please note that this could in fact be completely false, but it is just a theory that I have come up with.

Firstly, this is not, by any stretch of the mark, 'likely' to happen at all. Don't throw around your ideas like it's going to happen, this leads me to my next point: theories. I've grown to detest the word now because people throw it around like they're on to something, no... A theory is an educated idea based off facts and evidence, none of which I see here. "Renegade Flood" and "renegade Forerunner droids" my left nut!


Posted by: johnthethird
The final enemy to defeat will be their perfect creation who will wield a gravity hammer and have telikinesis. It will have a cutscene after you fight him for a while showing chief and the arbiter taking him down together.


And this... WTF is this bollocks?
PLEASE FRIEND you said you stopped reading it, but then you quoted and replied to the whole thing. please don't reply to parts of my amazing theory if you did not read the whole thing


I went back and read your convoluted drivel, please stop calling it a theory...

And I love how you totally ignored everything I pointed out, you're wrong and you know it.
no now see that's just an opinion. in your opinion it may be against cannon but in my opinion it is very likely to be cannon


I think you need to look up the difference between objectivity and subjectivity. Canon is objective facts, not open for personal opinion.

  • 04.21.2012 11:10 AM PDT

well you need to look up how to be cool and how not to cyber bully me based on my personal beliefs. Besides, it is just a theory not official fact. there is still a small chance I may be wrong so I don't understand why you guys are freaking out so much.

  • 04.21.2012 11:16 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: johnthethird
well you need to look up how to be cool and how not to cyber bully me based on my personal beliefs. Besides, it is just a theory not official fact. there is still a small chance I may be wrong so I don't understand why you guys are freaking out so much.


No, there's absolutely no chance at all that you're right, because this is not a theory, not even speculation, it's just a incoherent group of unintelligent ideas blended together by your mind.

This cannot and will never be part of canon or even come close to it, the idea itself goes against the foundations of anything logical in the Halo universe, not to mention that the Flood and Forerunners were at freaking war and that the Flood is considered the ultimate form of biological life, so that alone nullifies your entire "theory".

  • 04.21.2012 11:43 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

OP, your theory is bad and you should feel bad.

  • 04.21.2012 12:41 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
OP! y0ur theary it bad nd U shood feel bad!
well that is just an opinion right there. but at least you agree with me that it is a theory and that it is very likely in spite of weather or not you think it is bad.

Also, you might want to check your spell check.

  • 04.21.2012 2:16 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: johnthethird
well you need to look up how to be cool and how not to cyber bully me based on my personal beliefs. Besides, it is just a theory not official fact. there is still a small chance I may be wrong so I don't understand why you guys are freaking out so much.


No, there's absolutely no chance at all that you're right, because this is not a theory, not even speculation, it's just a incoherent group of unintelligent ideas blended together by your mind.

This cannot and will never be part of canon or even come close to it, the idea itself goes against the foundations of anything logical in the Halo universe, not to mention that the Flood and Forerunners were at freaking war and that the Flood is considered the ultimate form of biological life, so that alone nullifies your entire "theory".
halo is not realistic. If it were then you would not yell after you are dead, and you would not drop all your stuff whenever you start falling off a cliff!

And yes if you read the OP you will see that it says right there that it is very likely to be part of halo cannon. :/

  • 04.21.2012 2:17 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: johnthethird
well you need to look up how to be cool and how not to cyber bully me based on my personal beliefs. Besides, it is just a theory not official fact. there is still a small chance I may be wrong so I don't understand why you guys are freaking out so much.


No, there's absolutely no chance at all that you're right, because this is not a theory, not even speculation, it's just a incoherent group of unintelligent ideas blended together by your mind.

This cannot and will never be part of canon or even come close to it, the idea itself goes against the foundations of anything logical in the Halo universe, not to mention that the Flood and Forerunners were at freaking war and that the Flood is considered the ultimate form of biological life, so that alone nullifies your entire "theory".
halo is not realistic. If it were then you would not yell after you are dead, and you would not drop all your stuff whenever you start falling off a cliff!

And yes if you read the OP you will see that it says right there that it is very likely to be part of halo cannon. :/


Too bad the Flood is already the perfect life form, so your theory is void. And, using game mechanics to prove your point? how pathetic.

  • 04.21.2012 2:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
OP! y0ur theary it bad nd U shood feel bad!
Well that is just an opinion right there. But at least you agree with me that it is a theory and that it is very likely in spite of whether or not you think it is bad.

Also, you might want to check your spell check.

If you are going to criticize someone's spelling at least make sure yours is good.

  • 04.21.2012 2:43 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: johnthethird
no now see that's just an opinion. in your opinion it may be against cannon but in my opinion it is very likely to be cannon


My opinion is shared by everyone here, except you. There's writing on the wall here, but you're not reading it.

Allow me to define what a theory is for you:
A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena.

Your OP has absolutely none of that, there is no empiracal evidence of 'renegade Flood' in the Halo universe at all, it goes completely against established canon. The Flood are the pinnacle of evolution, they are the 'perfect' lifeform living in total unity because they're a hive mind. This is firmly established in Cryptum, Primordium, Halo 3's Terminals and all of the games.

a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.

So therefore, this cannot be correct. FACTS FROM THE ESTABLISHED CANON say that THE FLOOD ARE THE APEX OF EVOLUTION AND ARE CONTROLLED BY A CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE, otherwise they remain in a feral state until they compile enough corpses to create a Gravemind. They do not grow individual thought.

Also, the Magellanic Clouds are totally irrelevant. There's no evidence of the Precursors being there, it's just the place where the Flood appeared in the galaxy when they entered it.

They are using the trapped life forms to collect massive genetic material and create the perfect life forms.

Therefore, this is incorrect too. The Flood are the perfect lifeforms.

They built it in the form of a Dyson Sphere in order to collect the full energy from the sun which they need to fuse DNA and make the perfect life form.

This just makes no sense at all. Energy from the sun does not 'fuse DNA'... Where the hell did you get this idea from? What evidence is there in the Halo universe of ANYTHING you've said happening? Oh yeah, there isn't any.

  • 04.21.2012 3:11 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
OP! y0ur theary it bad nd U shood feel bad!
well that is just an opinion right there. but at least you agree with me that it is a theory and that it is very likely in spite of weather or not you think it is bad.

Also, you might want to check your spell check.


If you're going to edit my post, you should at least wait until the next page. I mean, your post is right below my perfectly correct post. If you're going to troll, do have SOME logic behind it.

Your grammar could use work, just saying.

  • 04.21.2012 3:25 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: johnthethird
well you need to look up how to be cool and how not to cyber bully me based on my personal beliefs. Besides, it is just a theory not official fact. there is still a small chance I may be wrong so I don't understand why you guys are freaking out so much.


No, there's absolutely no chance at all that you're right, because this is not a theory, not even speculation, it's just a incoherent group of unintelligent ideas blended together by your mind.

This cannot and will never be part of canon or even come close to it, the idea itself goes against the foundations of anything logical in the Halo universe, not to mention that the Flood and Forerunners were at freaking war and that the Flood is considered the ultimate form of biological life, so that alone nullifies your entire "theory".
halo is not realistic. If it were then you would not yell after you are dead, and you would not drop all your stuff whenever you start falling off a cliff!

And yes if you read the OP you will see that it says right there that it is very likely to be part of halo cannon. :/


Too bad the Flood is already the prefect life form, so your theory is void. And, using game mechanics to prove your point? how pathetic.
lol? You spelled perfect wrong, and the flood is not perfect it is brown and falls apart just by being punched once. It relies on a giant colony, and needs other life forms to survive. The perfect life form exists independently.

  • 04.21.2012 3:53 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: johnthethird
no now see that's just an opinion. in your opinion it may be against cannon but in my opinion it is very likely to be cannon


My opinion is shared by everyone here, except you. There's writing on the wall here, but you're not reading it.

Allow me to define what a theory is for you:
A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena.

Your OP has absolutely none of that, there is no empiracal evidence of 'renegade Flood' in the Halo universe at all, it goes completely against established canon. The Flood are the pinnacle of evolution, they are the 'perfect' lifeform living in total unity because they're a hive mind. This is firmly established in Cryptum, Primordium, Halo 3's Terminals and all of the games.

a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.

So therefore, this cannot be correct. FACTS FROM THE ESTABLISHED CANON say that THE FLOOD ARE THE APEX OF EVOLUTION AND ARE CONTROLLED BY A CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE, otherwise they remain in a feral state until they compile enough corpses to create a Gravemind. They do not grow individual thought.

Also, the Magellanic Clouds are totally irrelevant. There's no evidence of the Precursors being there, it's just the place where the Flood appeared in the galaxy when they entered it.

They are using the trapped life forms to collect massive genetic material and create the perfect life forms.

Therefore, this is incorrect too. The Flood are the perfect lifeforms.

They built it in the form of a Dyson Sphere in order to collect the full energy from the sun which they need to fuse DNA and make the perfect life form.

This just makes no sense at all. Energy from the sun does not 'fuse DNA'... Where the hell did you get this idea from? What evidence is there in the Halo universe of ANYTHING you've said happening? Oh yeah, there isn't any.
I won't click on that link. It probably is meat spin or something like that.

  • 04.21.2012 3:54 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
OP! y0ur theary it bad nd U shood feel bad!
well that is just an opinion right there. but at least you agree with me that it is a theory and that it is very likely in spite of weather or not you think it is bad.

Also, you might want to check your spell check.


If yo gon edit mai post, u should at least wait until teh next page i meen, your post is right below my pref3ctly correct post. If you're going to troll, do have SOME logic behind it.

Your grammar could use work, just saying.
Please stop posting off topic, and stop trying to troll me it doesn't work.

  • 04.21.2012 3:56 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: johnthethird
and the flood is not perfect it is brown and falls apart just by being punched once.


By a super-solider sure. But so what if it's weak as an Infection Form? Ants by themselves are weak, yet you get a swarm of them on you, fire ants for example, and you can very easily die. A much smaller lifeform killing a much bigger and complex lifeform.

It relies on a giant colony, and needs other life forms to survive.

Not if they hibernate.

The perfect life form exists independently.

By what arbitrary standards?

Ajw's link is to dictionary.com by the way, you know, like the book of definitions.

  • 04.21.2012 4:02 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: johnthethird
no now see that's just an opinion. in your opinion it may be against cannon but in my opinion it is very likely to be cannon


My opinion is shared by everyone here, except you. There's writing on the wall here, but you're not reading it.

Allow me to define what a theory is for you:
A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena.

Your OP has absolutely none of that, there is no empiracal evidence of 'renegade Flood' in the Halo universe at all, it goes completely against established canon. The Flood are the pinnacle of evolution, they are the 'perfect' lifeform living in total unity because they're a hive mind. This is firmly established in Cryptum, Primordium, Halo 3's Terminals and all of the games.

a group of highly evolved flood who have developed individual thought and consciousness separate from each-other and from the precursors who dominate the Magellan cloud.

So therefore, this cannot be correct. FACTS FROM THE ESTABLISHED CANON say that THE FLOOD ARE THE APEX OF EVOLUTION AND ARE CONTROLLED BY A CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE, otherwise they remain in a feral state until they compile enough corpses to create a Gravemind. They do not grow individual thought.

Also, the Magellanic Clouds are totally irrelevant. There's no evidence of the Precursors being there, it's just the place where the Flood appeared in the galaxy when they entered it.

They are using the trapped life forms to collect massive genetic material and create the perfect life forms.

Therefore, this is incorrect too. The Flood are the perfect lifeforms.

They built it in the form of a Dyson Sphere in order to collect the full energy from the sun which they need to fuse DNA and make the perfect life form.

This just makes no sense at all. Energy from the sun does not 'fuse DNA'... Where the hell did you get this idea from? What evidence is there in the Halo universe of ANYTHING you've said happening? Oh yeah, there isn't any.
I won't click on that link. It probably is meat spin or something like that.


Are you a mental defective? If you hover your mouse over the link you can clearly see it's Dictionary.com. -_-

Once again, you make an utter prat of yourself... And, once again, you completely ignore facts and evidence thrown at you which disproves the bullshyte fan fiction you've written.

[Edited on 04.21.2012 4:03 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2012 4:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Dr Syx
Frankie has already confirmed that there will be no flood in Halo 4. :P

Here is the source if you'd like.

They also said the Covenant weren't coming back. Honestly, I'm doubting everything they say with the exception of trailers. Personally, I would miss the Flood.

  • 04.21.2012 4:16 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: nemesishunter7

Posted by: Dr Syx
Frankie has already confirmed that there will be no flood in Halo 4. :P

Here is the source if you'd like.

They also said the Covenant weren't coming back. Honestly, I'm doubting everything they say with the exception of trailers. Personally, I would miss the Flood.


No they didn't. They've been saying since Halo fest that they're "not done" with the Covenant's storyline... Also, they said that we won't be FIGHTING the Flood, this leaves room for interpretation - it doesn't necessarily mean that they won't appear. The cliffhanger of the game may well be the Flood returning.

  • 04.21.2012 4:24 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Frankie also said that there would be no Flood in Halo 4.


Actually, he said we wouldn't be fighting the Flood in Halo 4.

[Edited on 04.21.2012 6:31 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2012 6:18 PM PDT

wow you guys are all trying to troll me, but you are just making yourselves look stupid

  • 04.21.2012 6:27 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird
and the flood is not perfect it is brown and falls apart just by being punched once.


By a super-solider sure. But so what if it's weak as an Infection Form? Ants by themselves are weak, yet you get a swarm of them on you, fire ants for example, and you can very easily die. A much smaller lifeform killing a much bigger and complex lifeform.

It relies on a giant colony, and needs other life forms to survive.

Not if they hibernate.

The perfect life form exists independently.

By what arbitrary standards?

Ajw's link is to dictionary.com by the way, you know, like the book of definitions.
lol u think ants r perfect wut a noob

  • 04.21.2012 6:28 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird
and the flood is not perfect it is brown and falls apart just by being punched once.


By a super-solider sure. But so what if it's weak as an Infection Form? Ants by themselves are weak, yet you get a swarm of them on you, fire ants for example, and you can very easily die. A much smaller lifeform killing a much bigger and complex lifeform.

It relies on a giant colony, and needs other life forms to survive.

Not if they hibernate.

The perfect life form exists independently.

By what arbitrary standards?

Ajw's link is to dictionary.com by the way, you know, like the book of definitions.
lol u think ants r perfect wut a noob


Considering how they've been around way before us primates existed and will be long after we are gone, they are certainly better than us, bub.

  • 04.21.2012 6:56 PM PDT

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