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Subject: What do you think is skill?

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I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)

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I dont think ive been on here since before halo reach came out. But i have played alot of reach since it came out and people seem to completely get the wrong idea about what skill is.

They say its skill to horde every single power weapon on the map. not really, they just dont seem to be able to get as many kills without them, stealing the enemies power weapons might be a good tactic in a normal game, but ill say why it isnt later.

They say using vehicles is skill. Kinda, that is really just a good tactic, but the next part is what throws that out the window.

They say spawn killing is skill. NO, flat out NO, every way i look at it that immediately makes me classify them as a noob that is making up for their sheer lack of skill.

How can people possibly think that killing someone with a sniper, tank, assassination, etc, the SECOND that they spawn is any kind of skill at all? They dont have any time to recognize where they are or where any visible enemies are. All they have is their starting weapons and armor ability and grenades, all of which cant do anything against enemies half way across the map or someone behind you (except armor lock for assassinations).
When a team is spawn killing the other team either by outnumbering their total team member count or overpowering them with tanks, banshees, snipers, rockets, swords or whatever they are not showing any skill in the game at all, its basically a shooting range where targets appear and cant do anything to counter the weapons and positions you have.

So tell me, what do you truly think is skill?

[Edited on 04.20.2012 2:14 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 2:12 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)

As for my answer to my own question.
It is simply this, skill in halo is overcoming great odds or difference in firepower, crossing the entire map to kill a single sniper thats pestering the whole team, timing your armor abilities at just the right time and over coming others armor abilities in just the right way, surviving a on foot encounter with 3 or more members of the other team by yourself, timing and placing your grenade throws for the best effectiveness, and many other smaller feats that all add up into one very skilled player.

How i judge who is truly skilled and who is not in the K/D difference in a players arena and multiplayer record, like say if someone has around 12,000+ in multiplayer but only like 100+ in arena, they are definitly a spawn killer of some kind. No question. If they dont have a arena record i cant quite tell but if their K/D is more then 20k-25k+ then yea they are just spawn killers.

[Edited on 04.20.2012 2:13 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 2:13 PM PDT

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You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.

  • 04.20.2012 2:16 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.
theres quite a difference trying to do it by yourself and having an entire team do it. I still object to both.

  • 04.20.2012 2:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.
theres quite a difference trying to do it by yourself and having an entire team do it. I still object to both.
Well duh. Full party boosting results in above average k/d(or just less deaths) and win loss. You object to me killing the enemy team? Interesting.

  • 04.20.2012 2:22 PM PDT
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OP plays with pants on head

  • 04.20.2012 2:22 PM PDT

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  • 04.20.2012 2:23 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.
theres quite a difference trying to do it by yourself and having an entire team do it. I still object to both.
Well duh. Full party boosting results in above average k/d(or just less deaths) and win loss. You object to me killing the enemy team? Interesting.
i object to completely resricting anything the other team can do. otherwise why are you even playing?

  • 04.20.2012 2:30 PM PDT
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It's your fault for being bad enough into being spawn trapped.
Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.
theres quite a difference trying to do it by yourself and having an entire team do it. I still object to both.
Well duh. Full party boosting results in above average k/d(or just less deaths) and win loss. You object to me killing the enemy team? Interesting.
i object to completely resricting anything the other team can do. otherwise why are you even playing?

  • 04.20.2012 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
You're going to either be flamed out the ass or completely ignored. By your logic I'd be a spawnkiller, even though I play alone most of the time, in BTB.
theres quite a difference trying to do it by yourself and having an entire team do it. I still object to both.
Well duh. Full party boosting results in above average k/d(or just less deaths) and win loss. You object to me killing the enemy team? Interesting.
i object to completely resricting anything the other team can do. otherwise why are you even playing?
One person can't hold down an entire team, thats ludicrous. So if your team was stomping the enemy, you'd do something to keep it fair for the enemy, so they have a chance to get back up? Some people actually enjoy winning their games.

  • 04.20.2012 2:34 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


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Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
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  • 04.20.2012 2:42 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
One person can't hold down an entire team, thats ludicrous. So if your team was stomping the enemy, you'd do something to keep it fair for the enemy, so they have a chance to get back up? Some people actually enjoy winning their games.
yes a few times when my team is destroying the other i restrict what weapons i use, like just the AR or DMR. Circumstances change for different game types and such.

  • 04.20.2012 2:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
One person can't hold down an entire team, thats ludicrous. So if your team was stomping the enemy, you'd do something to keep it fair for the enemy, so they have a chance to get back up? Some people actually enjoy winning their games.
yes a few times when my team is destroying the other i restrict what weapons i use, like just the AR or DMR. Circumstances change for different game types and such.
Spawn-killing tends to happen when one team is significantly better than the other. What good comes of , just you, going easy on them? To prolong the game and let them get raped even longer? Its better to just end it as soon as possible. I'm guessing you're not that competitive.

  • 04.20.2012 2:53 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
One person can't hold down an entire team, thats ludicrous. So if your team was stomping the enemy, you'd do something to keep it fair for the enemy, so they have a chance to get back up? Some people actually enjoy winning their games.
yes a few times when my team is destroying the other i restrict what weapons i use, like just the AR or DMR. Circumstances change for different game types and such.
Spawn-killing tends to happen when one team is significantly better than the other. What good comes of , just you, going easy on them? To prolong the game and let them get raped even longer? Its better to just end it as soon as possible. I'm guessing you're not that competitive.
i am very competitive, but im not gonna become what i hate the most. Sometimes ive even taken weapons to the other team when they were being utterly crushed. It does not prove that they are weaker just cause they get spawn killed, its just that the other team took every advantage before they could, a few players focus only on getting and destroying vehicles, another few focus on only the power weapons and keeping the other team from getting them. i can see what your saying but its still mainly because their power weapons and vehicles are stolen or destroyed right away.

  • 04.20.2012 3:02 PM PDT

Play Hard, Play Nice

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What do I think is skill?

I would say... a player that doesn't complain about the game? Or should I say, a player that knows how to play the game.

- Bloom
Then pace your shots, seriously it's not that hard. I had a game(Team Slayer) where I out DMR'd two players(not at once, separate) a couple of times, and they rage quit.

- AAs.
Armor Lock: Wait for them to pop out if it's a 1v1 situation. If not, flee from the firefight unfortunately.
Jet Pack: Take cover in a building; No one likes to look up in Halo lol. Before they come in, throw a grenade at the doorstep and headshot.

- Sword Block
If you don't want to get SB'd, let the enemy slap you first and then slice.
Going against a Sword Sprinter? Then SB the person, and go for a headshot.

- Foot Soldier vs Vehicle
Don't charge out there, what are you thinking?! If there are vehicles, then there are counter weapons: Plasma Pistol, Grenades, Rocket Launchers, and etc.

That's all I can think of right now.

Also, quick tip for People who are just getting into Zero Bloom Slayer:
Use the Hologram; It's a spamfest in that game. Once an enemy sees someone they start shooting. So spit out a Hologram and you'll get at least two to three shots on them before they land a hit on you lol

[Edited on 04.20.2012 3:19 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 3:15 PM PDT

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Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids

OP, you're retarded.

  • 04.20.2012 3:22 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids

Oh wait, everything you said makes sense now.

Lol bad players.

  • 04.20.2012 3:23 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Kaotichedgehog
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I can NEVER sword block, every time i see someone coming at me with sword i try to melee them as they hit me but it NEVER works.

you have to remember, when people are getting spawned killed it is usually by their own power weapons, they usually only have access to the plasma pistol and their grenades and thats it.

  • 04.20.2012 3:26 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Rage Twin 2
Oh wait, everything you said makes sense now.

Lol bad players.
what does Halo 3 have to do with this?

  • 04.20.2012 3:27 PM PDT

Play Hard, Play Nice

Inheritor# ... ah hell, no one cares anymore lol


Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
you have to remember, when people are getting spawned killed it is usually by their own power weapons, they usually only have access to the plasma pistol and their grenades and thats it.

I rarely play BTB because of Full Parties, and I hate vehicles; I'm a noob with vehicles lol
*not playing BTB*
problem solved for me lol

[Edited on 04.20.2012 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 3:32 PM PDT
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*wonders how New Clan Recruitment For Shadow Pack thread gets 55 replies*

*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

*proceeds to read on, shakes head, and gently laughs*

Id say a skilled player is someone who knows how to hold their own, not just on their favorite gametype but on all of them. A person who knows how to win on all fronts, how to enter a confrontation, to know when to fight or retreat, to know what tactic to use in different situations, to know how to effectively use all weapons.

Its not just about their gaming skills either. The person must also be able to have a friendly conversation with all players, regardless of age, ethnicity, or their own knowing. Someone who thinks before they speak, and who doesnt make irrational accusations or decisions.

These are the people I respect the most.

  • 04.20.2012 3:33 PM PDT

Play Hard, Play Nice

Inheritor# ... ah hell, no one cares anymore lol


Posted by: Sgt Commando
OMG, that is exactly how I am!! I don't play for wins or K/D, I play for fun. However, I do quite well for playing for fun lol

Plus, I stopped wearing a mic because too many people trash talk. And people complain no one is wearing mics... I wonder why?

[Edited on 04.20.2012 3:39 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 3:37 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: Kaotichedgehog

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
you have to remember, when people are getting spawned killed it is usually by their own power weapons, they usually only have access to the plasma pistol and their grenades and thats it.

I rarely play BTB because of Full Parties, and I hate vehicles; I'm a noob with vehicles lol
*not playing BTB*
problem solved for me lol
so what will you do when those types of teams get into every competitive playlist? stop playing halo all together?

  • 04.20.2012 3:40 PM PDT

Why do you care.

For me i think skill is luck in a game

  • 04.20.2012 3:45 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids


Posted by: Kaotichedgehog

Posted by: Sgt Commando
OMG, that is exactly how I am!! I don't play for wins or K/D, I play for fun. However, I do quite well for playing for fun lol

Plus, I stopped wearing a mic because too many people trash talk. And people complain no one is wearing mics... I wonder why?
OMG!!! It's not like winning is fun!!!#@!$$@

Retards gonna retard.

  • 04.20.2012 3:46 PM PDT

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