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Subject: What do you think is skill?

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.

I hear this guy has skill- something the OP clearly knows nothing about at all.

[Edited on 04.21.2012 2:31 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2012 2:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


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Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
They say spawn killing is skill. NO, flat out NO, every way i look at it that immediately makes me classify them as a noob that is making up for their sheer lack of skill.


It is.

So is setting the spawn trap.

  • 04.21.2012 5:48 PM PDT

Never give up and eventuly you will win.
Can't stop me or break me down.
I am a christian.

Skill is your ability to assess a situation and produce the best possible outcome with the situation you are placed in.

Doesn't matter how it gets done as long as it gets done. If you have to stay in a corner for a while to get some kills for your team or to hold a position, you camp in that corner.

If you have to whore a power weapon to help establish map control and weapon control you whore that weapon.

Whatever produces the best possible outcome from whatever situation you are in.

  • 04.21.2012 10:14 PM PDT

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skill had a broad definition. its meaning is usually altered by the individual to suit their style of gaming. as far as what i think is skillful is winning. at the end of the match someone wins and someone loses it all depends on what either side can do to change the course of the match.

TL;DR: if you win you're skillful, if you lose you need improvement.

as for spawn killing. i dont condone it but since im not a dumbass iv never been spawnkilled.

[Edited on 04.21.2012 10:51 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2012 10:49 PM PDT

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I agree spawn camping does not take skill, only coordination. A full team that cannot set up a spawn camp against randoms is not working well together.


However, if you set up a good strategy and overrun the teams base then spawn kill away. The notion that the other team should bend over and let their opponent get some kills on them is ridiculous.

The only proper way to deal with spawn traps is to fix trueskill. I don't roll with the full teams and for the most part they don't bother me.

  • 04.22.2012 12:07 AM PDT

@spawn031

"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
You spawn, i kill you with a sniper, you spawn again, some wraith takes you out, you spawn again, a ghost takes you out, you spawn again, get sniped again, are you going to quit by now? no? spawn again, get DMR spammed, spawn again (inside your base or something) shotgun kills you one shot, spawn again, banshee bombs you, spawn again, the enemy stole your own wraith and revenant and now they all are camping your spawn, do you REALLY think that spawn killing takes ANY kind of skill? no it does not because they take EVERY advantage you can possibly have against them, that is not skill, that is them MAKING UP for their utter lack of it. Its basically the same as if no weapons or vehicles spawned on your side of the map.

Now think about it this way:

Who lost map control?
Who's sniper player died?
Who rushed for Spartan Laser and forgot to get it?
Who jumped in the Wraith and immediately pushed forward and died within the first 20 seconds?
Who sat in their base on their own flag and didn't push forward?

The only reason you get spawn skilled is because you put yourself in that situation. If you actually used "skill" and proper positioning to AVOID all the things I listed above, maybe you wouldn't be staring at your respawn screen 95% of the game. You getting spawn killed is the end result of how you set up in the first place.

If we were talking about chess, both players start with the same pieces at the beginning of the game. You didn't think and threw away your knights, bishops and even lost your queen. Now you're complaining because your opponent is just destroying you across the chess board when you lost all your best pieces in the first few moves. Think about it.


[Edited on 04.22.2012 12:15 AM PDT]

  • 04.22.2012 12:15 AM PDT


Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
You spawn, i kill you with a sniper, you spawn again, some wraith takes you out, you spawn again, a ghost takes you out, you spawn again, get sniped again, are you going to quit by now? no? spawn again, get DMR spammed, spawn again (inside your base or something) shotgun kills you one shot, spawn again, banshee bombs you, spawn again, the enemy stole your own wraith and revenant and now they all are camping your spawn, do you REALLY think that spawn killing takes ANY kind of skill? no it does not because they take EVERY advantage you can possibly have against them, that is not skill, that is them MAKING UP for their utter lack of it. Its basically the same as if no weapons or vehicles spawned on your side of the map.


We aren't terribad.

We don't let the other team spawn trap us in the first place. If the other team has spawn trapped you then they are far superior than you are. End of story.

  • 04.22.2012 5:00 AM PDT

Someone better go talk to snickerdoodle about hto. She thinks it's cheating.

  • 04.22.2012 5:52 AM PDT
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  • 04.22.2012 6:11 AM PDT

Epic Monkey!


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Posted by: Sgt Commando
OMG, that is exactly how I am!! I don't play for wins or K/D, I play for fun. However, I do quite well for playing for fun lol

Plus, I stopped wearing a mic because too many people trash talk. And people complain no one is wearing mics... I wonder why?

You can just make it so you just talk to people on your friends list instead of not talking at all.
Edit:I'm also like that.

[Edited on 04.22.2012 6:27 AM PDT]

  • 04.22.2012 6:27 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


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because I like pen­is.

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Posted by: AK FROST
Someone better go talk to snickerdoodle about hto. She thinks it's cheating.



Having 40+ kills in griffball is stat padding to her.



Who made her a waypoint mod? lol

  • 04.22.2012 7:08 AM PDT


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Posted by: AK FROST
Someone better go talk to snickerdoodle about hto. She thinks it's cheating.



Having 40+ kills in griffball is stat padding to her.



Who made her a waypoint mod? lol


lol, been banned so many times by that sorry excuse for a moderator. Not even breaking the rules when I do get banned.

  • 04.22.2012 7:17 AM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)


Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
Stop searching alone and stop being godawful at this game.

Voila! All of your problems are gone.
i myself play well enough, im not going to waste my time proving it to any of you, i know how much i win and how ive been the top player out of both teams plently of times. and thats without being a cheap camping ass.

  • 04.22.2012 7:41 AM PDT


Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
Stop searching alone and stop being godawful at this game.

Voila! All of your problems are gone.
i myself play well enough, im not going to waste my time proving it to any of you, i know how much i win and how ive been the top player out of both teams plently of times. and thats without being a cheap camping ass.


Excuses.

You do realise we would all stomp you in pretty much any settings, right?

  • 04.22.2012 7:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

You have ~900 games of MM played.
2/3 of them are played in Either BTB or Invasion, AKA, easiest playlists to lure yourself about being good.

  • 04.22.2012 8:00 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: AK FROST
Someone better go talk to snickerdoodle about hto. She thinks it's cheating.


She's so mentally incompetent it's almost scary.

  • 04.22.2012 8:17 AM PDT


Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
Stop searching alone and stop being godawful at this game.

Voila! All of your problems are gone.
i myself play well enough, im not going to waste my time proving it to any of you, i know how much i win and how ive been the top player out of both teams plently of times. and thats without being a cheap camping ass.
You're 85% Silver. You're not good at all and certainly not good enough to have a false sense of being good. That's reserved for Golds.

  • 04.22.2012 8:47 AM PDT

Shoryuken!

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Posted by: kingofsmash1
Skill is the ability to perform well.

If you and your team are put in a position to where you're being spawn trapped/camped, that's your fault.

Is turning invincible (a.k.a. using armor lock) skillful? No. Why? Because you're in a state of invulnerability and cannot be killed.

At least you have to aim with a sniper. Is it our fault you and your team don't rush for power weapons and pursue map control? Is it our fault that half of the maps favor one team? Is it our fault if they lag out or quit?



*Awaits for a reasonable response still.*

  • 04.22.2012 9:13 AM PDT


Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD

Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Posted by: DxXOrangesXxD
Stop searching alone and stop being godawful at this game.

Voila! All of your problems are gone.
i myself play well enough, im not going to waste my time proving it to any of you, i know how much i win and how ive been the top player out of both teams plently of times. and thats without being a cheap camping ass.
You're 85% Silver. You're not good at all and certainly not good enough to have a false sense of being good. That's reserved for Golds.


Nope it's reserved for the onyx players.

  • 04.22.2012 9:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Driving is the true essence of skill.

  • 04.22.2012 9:31 AM PDT

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