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Subject: How the new armor (while is cool) needs an explanation.

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
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First off it's been revealed that the Chief's newest armor is just the Mark VI but with FIRMWARE upgrades. Firmware can not mean the whole armor plating was changed as well.
While I was never a big fan of the traditional Mark VI, there just needs to be an actual explanation for the change in look, not ARTISTIC LICENSE.
To me this would mean that if a Halo 2 Anniversary is made, the Chief would not be wearing his famous Mark VI look but instead the new armor.

  • 04.20.2012 6:01 PM PDT

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  • 04.20.2012 6:02 PM PDT
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I agree with you, they do need an explanation. It couldn't have been Cortana because she cannot change the exterior of the Chief's armor and it cannot be nano bots because since when were there nano bots on FuD?

[Edited on 04.20.2012 6:08 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 6:08 PM PDT

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i know they arnt gonna find a reason i bet bungie could

  • 04.20.2012 6:13 PM PDT

Well, according to the GameInformer magazine, its says that Cortana has changed/upgraded the suit since the Chief was napping.

  • 04.20.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Well, according to the GameInformer magazine, its says that Cortana has changed/upgraded the suit since the Chief was napping.
but how!?

  • 04.20.2012 6:15 PM PDT

Friends before pixels.

In Halsey's journal, she explained that the entire armor can change form. Including the plating.

  • 04.20.2012 6:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cal160

Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Well, according to the GameInformer magazine, its says that Cortana has changed/upgraded the suit since the Chief was napping.
but how!?
4 years is a long time.

  • 04.20.2012 6:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: a casual banana
In Halsey's journal, she explained that the entire armor can change form. Including the plating.
cool

  • 04.20.2012 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cal160

Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Well, according to the GameInformer magazine, its says that Cortana has changed/upgraded the suit since the Chief was napping.
but how!?
4 years is a long time.


That's a meaningless argument. How would she manage to completely rework his armor while he is sleeping in cryo and with what would she do this with?

  • 04.20.2012 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: a casual banana

Posted by: Cal160

Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Well, according to the GameInformer magazine, its says that Cortana has changed/upgraded the suit since the Chief was napping.
but how!?
4 years is a long time.


That's a meaningless argument. How would she manage to completely rework his armor while he is sleeping in cryo and with what would she do this with?
rember this is scfi

  • 04.20.2012 6:23 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Cal160
rember this is scfi


What does that have to do with anything...at all? In order for the armor to change, you need new components or at the very least remove some. How and where would Cortana do this while Chief is immobile and in cryo?

  • 04.20.2012 6:33 PM PDT

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she is an A.I. so she as acsess to all of the ship and there could be robitical arms and it would take some time for chief to defrost

[Edited on 04.20.2012 6:43 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2012 6:40 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Cal160
she is an A.I. so she as acsess to all of the ship and there could be robitical arms and it would take some time defrost


That doesn't explain where the new competent to change the armor are. And people awaken once taken out of cryo, you can't just liberally take someone out, work on them and then put them back all the while they are snoozing.

  • 04.20.2012 6:43 PM PDT

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well you are makeing a point there but 343 should just tell us and stop hideing the awser

  • 04.20.2012 6:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
First off it's been revealed that the Chief's newest armor is just the Mark VI but with FIRMWARE upgrades. Firmware can not mean the whole armor plating was changed as well.
While I was never a big fan of the traditional Mark VI, there just needs to be an actual explanation for the change in look, not ARTISTIC LICENSE.
To me this would mean that if a Halo 2 Anniversary is made, the Chief would not be wearing his famous Mark VI look but instead the new armor.


The firmware upgrade is only affecting the HUD... It's not going to be the only upgrade to his armor, that would be stupid.


I still believe that he gets his armor fused with Forerunner Combat Skin, but I mean, it could just be that the UNSC Infinity makes it's way to him mid-way through the game and blam-o: new armor.

Just chill out, and wait for them to explain more.

  • 04.21.2012 7:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
(while is cool)

It doesn't look cool at all...

  • 04.21.2012 7:27 AM PDT

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So which armor is Mark VII, multiplayer or the chief's?

  • 04.21.2012 12:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: diggnURgrave
So which armor is Mark VII, multiplayer or the chief's?


My armor.

  • 04.21.2012 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: diggnURgrave
So which armor is Mark VII, multiplayer or the chief's?

Mark VII is so last year. We're on Mark IX now.

  • 04.21.2012 1:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Cal160
she is an A.I. so she as acsess to all of the ship and there could be robitical arms and it would take some time defrost


That doesn't explain where the new competent to change the armor are. And people awaken once taken out of cryo, you can't just liberally take someone out, work on them and then put them back all the while they are snoozing.

This is true. There has been accounts of removing armor or clothes while in cryostasis will cause a severe cause of a "freezer-burn" effect. So he would have to defrost, which he would then wake up.

  • 04.21.2012 8:04 PM PDT

If you look in the latest OXM magazine the it tells you what each piece of new armour is for and even shows you the new redesigned grunt

  • 04.22.2012 9:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: archdman854
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Cal160
she is an A.I. so she as acsess to all of the ship and there could be robitical arms and it would take some time defrost


That doesn't explain where the new competent to change the armor are. And people awaken once taken out of cryo, you can't just liberally take someone out, work on them and then put them back all the while they are snoozing.

This is true. There has been accounts of removing armor or clothes while in cryostasis will cause a severe cause of a "freezer-burn" effect. So he would have to defrost, which he would then wake up.


Freezerburn effect is debatable in the future. Think about the ending of Halo Wars.

Beside, who said anything about removing his armor?

  • 04.22.2012 9:31 AM PDT


Posted by: Scout Delta
If you look in the latest OXM magazine the it tells you what each piece of new armour is for and even shows you the new redesigned grunt


When was OXM released? I haven't seen it yet.

  • 04.22.2012 9:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
While I was never a big fan of the traditional Mark VI, there just needs to be an actual explanation for the change in look, not ARTISTIC LICENSE.


Why not? All of us who are obsessed with the canon, and the eventual bastardization thereof, have been really nitpicky about stuff like this. "OOOH! That's not what it looked like before and it makes me grumpies!" I remember the same thing happening when Halo 3 screens showed the Chief's gauntlets were different from the ones he wore in Halo 2, and again when Emile's EVA gear didn't match up PERFECTLY design-wise with what we'd seen in Halo 3. I joined in the discussions, in fact. But the simple fact is that unless the aesthetic changes to the Chief's armor actually affect the way the armor behaves in a way that DEMANDS explanation, it can be, and, for sanity's sake, should be written off as artistic license.

This principle, of course, needs to be used within reason. Certain changes, while purely aesthetic, would certainly be too big a pill to swallow; for instance, if the Chief were to go into cryo wearing the standard Mark VI helmet, then come out wearing a CQB helmet, I'd call BS. But he's not. If you give the designers a little wiggle room (which we all should), and consider the fact that this is NOT Bungie and by giving the Chief a slightly different appearance the people at 343i are simply putting forth their own imagining of him, coupled with the visual differences that are endemic to any changes in the graphics capabilities in the game engines and so forth, it's not an intolerable change.

Just have some faith, and don't sweat the irrelevant details. I tend to disregard most of the visual stuff as far as the Canon goes anyway, because it IS so subject to artistic license. To say that the look CAN'T change without breaking Canon would mean that none of the games are Canonical, because looks change so much due to so many different things. But that's another tangent for a much longer post. The point is, it's not a difference that MAKES a difference, so it's not really worth obsessing over. The wrapping paper doesn't affect what the present is.

  • 04.22.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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