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Oke, I don't know if this has been posted before but if it is please be gentle. And I'm Dutch so my english may not always be correct.

But I have a little theory, not tottaly new but it's something everybody hasen't seem to notice yet.
So we all know that you don't play all the levels of halo 2 with Master Chief. So think about it. MC doesn't about half of halo 2's story, he doesn't know about The Arc, about Tartarus and that he's dead and that 343 guilty spark is still alive. Oh, and he doesn't know about the alliance between the elites and the humans, I think. He just doesn't know about it! But the Arbiter does know all this.
Now back to the Arc part. MC doesn't about it, so that may mean that in the trailer he still doesn't know. (Ofcourse that not sure but it could be) So when he sees it he doesn't know it's the Arc, but he probably recognisen the design so that's maybe why he seems to be (how do you call that?srry I don't know how to say that maybe you understand what I mean, he has a certain emotion) Anyway, he may be thinking "oh no...not another forerunner structure, what it doing on earth?"

I hope you all understand what I mean. Please give some feedback.


UPDATE

I've a list of all the things that MC doesn't knows about at the end of halo 2 and a list for the Arbiter


Things Master Chief doesn't know about:
- he doesn't know about the existence of 'The Arc'
- he doesn't know that 343 Guilty Spark is still alive( he does know about (2501 I think) Penient Tangent)
- he doesn't know about Tartarus and that he is already dead
- he doesn't know about the alliance between the humans and the elites(plus grunts and hunters ofcourse) ok, there is not officialy an alliance between them but there is one between the arbiter, sergeant johnson and Miranda Keyes. And the Arbiter is a bit like the king of the elites and Miranda and Johnson are pretty high up the ranks too. So that could mean that there is an allianca but it's not sure yet. Altough chances are big it happens. (Thx for saying TheAdmiral)
- I don't know any more, if you know something I haven't included yet feel free to post it. And correct me if I'm wrong

Things The Arbiter doesn't know about:
- he doesn't know the flood took over High Charity
- he doesn't know the Prophet of Thruth is heading for Earth
- for as far I know he doesn't knows about the existence of Earth or that it is the home planet of the humans. But I'm not sure on this one.
- he doesn't know the Pophet of Mercy is dead
- I don't know any more, if you know something I haven't included yet feel free to post it. And correct me if I'm wrong


[Edited on 6/2/2006]

  • 06.02.2006 2:13 PM PDT
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Yeah good point. Never realized that actually

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Yes the MC is just a soldier who doesnt know much and never questions his orders.

  • 06.02.2006 2:16 PM PDT

"You have been measured, you have been weighed: And you have been found lacking."

Thank you for posting this... hopefully others will relize it as well

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I think Bungie said that the trailor takes place about halfway through the game so I imagine someone would have told him by then. Good theroy though, and you never know how a Bungie story arc is going to be.

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Good English for a Dutchman. But, they require English over there, don't they?

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To Master Garth

Well, I take it you've played halo 2, duh. And you've also noticed that about half of the levels are played with the arbiter and the other half with the chief. So, the chief doesn't know what happenend during the arbiter missions. And if you have payed attantion during the cutscene you see after "the great journey" you will know that the Arbiter is told about the Arc and not chief. I hope this explains it for you, I don't think I can explain even more.

And to Mah0neskeet: yes, we get that at school, and we have a lot of english programmes on tv.

[Edited on 6/2/2006]

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Nettes Englisch. Ich mag die Idee, aber wir wissen nicht, wenn er oder nicht an jenem Punkt vom Spiel erzählt worden ist. Der Anhänger IST ein gutes Geschäft ins Spiel. Nette Idee obwohl.

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yes that is a good theory but mc has his own challanges to face he doesn't need to worrie bout that stuff and i dnt think it will take him long to find out about the ark

  • 06.02.2006 2:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: TYME
I think Bungie said that the trailor takes place about halfway through the game so I imagine someone would have told him by then. Good theroy though, and you never know how a Bungie story arc is going to be.


i never though of that little point there. he really has no idea what's going on, all he knew is that he's trying to track down truth.

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Nettes Englisch. Ich mag die Idee, aber wir wissen nicht, wenn er oder nicht an jenem Punkt vom Spiel erzählt worden ist. Der Anhänger IST ein gutes Geschäft ins Spiel. Nette Idee obwohl.


Haha! No, I didn't mean Deutsch, I meant dutch which is the language of that little country left of Germany. And in case you didn't knew, German is english for Deutsch;)

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More factors are that the Arbiter doesn't know what's going on in High Charity, that two of the prophets are dead, and a -blam!-load of other things. But the MC point is a good one.

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Posted by: Rakdos
Nettes Englisch. Ich mag die Idee, aber wir wissen nicht, wenn er oder nicht an jenem Punkt vom Spiel erzählt worden ist. Der Anhänger IST ein gutes Geschäft ins Spiel. Nette Idee obwohl.


Haha! No, I didn't mean Deutsch, I meant dutch which is the language of that little country left of Germany. And in case you didn't knew, German is english for Deutsch;)


I know deutsch means German. I was just trying to make you "feel more at home" on the forum. For some reason I thought that Dutch was a germanic language. Sorry.

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Posted by: Blueruler
More factors are that the Arbiter doesn't know what's going on in High Charity, that two of the prophets are dead, and a -blam!-load of other things. But the MC point is a good one.


Your a bit wrong on that. The arbiter does know the Prophet of Regret is killed. He's been told about it in some cutscene, don't know which one exactly. But thanks all for the positive comments so far.

ps. I think I'm gonna make a list of what the abiter and MC do know and don't know.

  • 06.02.2006 3:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rakdos
Nettes Englisch. Ich mag die Idee, aber wir wissen nicht, wenn er oder nicht an jenem Punkt vom Spiel erzählt worden ist. Der Anhänger IST ein gutes Geschäft ins Spiel. Nette Idee obwohl.


'Nice English. I like the idea, but we don't know, if he has been told at that point in the game or not. The trailer is a fair way into the game. Good idea tho'


I like this idea too, does it mean we will be presented with the moral choice of killing one of the Sepratist species? THOSE CUTE GRUNTS! :(

[Edited on 6/2/2006]

  • 06.02.2006 3:23 PM PDT

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You missed the point like Vader missed the banshee, your whole argument is covered in bees.
Stop sending me group invites -blam!-s!

meh this stuff is no use here

[Edited on 6/2/2006]

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there there rakdos...a little more time in school and a little less time on xbl....you'll get it.

is your first period geography? or history?

just kidding man, but i understood everything you said there. I am German, i just got back from visiting my family just this week, and it is good to be home here in Salt City. (believe it or not....)

dutch is no where near a germanic language.....

Great GREAT theory! i never ever thought of that, and i have never heard this theory ever before.

  • 06.02.2006 3:26 PM PDT

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That's a very good point, your English is also very good!

  • 06.02.2006 3:27 PM PDT
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Actually he knows that regret is dead, in the cutscene after mc kills regret, Arbiter is on a Phantom and asks who killed regret

  • 06.02.2006 4:09 PM PDT
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There is not an alliance between Humans and elites or at least not yet. Although arbiter helps jhonson they never said our people will fight together.

  • 06.02.2006 4:13 PM PDT
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Great theory and great english.

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Posted by: Rakdos
Nettes Englisch. Ich mag die Idee, aber wir wissen nicht, wenn er oder nicht an jenem Punkt vom Spiel erzählt worden ist. Der Anhänger IST ein gutes Geschäft ins Spiel. Nette Idee obwohl.

That's German, not Dutch, people tend to mix the two of us up for some reason. Also, most Dutch people speak proper English. It's a gift.

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Posted by: TYME
I think Bungie said that the trailor takes place about halfway through the game so I imagine someone would have told him by then. Good theroy though, and you never know how a Bungie story arc is going to be.


With all due respect i doubt bungie would ruin half of the game by showing us a clip that happens halfway through it. The teaser last year was from Metropolis and showed nothing much. Betchya cant stick it. Well they arent going to ruin the suspence building halfway though the game by showing this trailer.

  • 06.02.2006 4:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: WhiteDreads
With all due respect i doubt bungie would ruin half of the game by showing us a clip that happens halfway through it. The teaser last year was from Metropolis and showed nothing much. Betchya cant stick it. Well they arent going to ruin the suspence building halfway though the game by showing this trailer.

The trailer takes place about roughly a third way through the game, as stated in the Gamespot interview with Bungie. And what's to ruin? We saw two minutes of video and we still don't know anything more than before.

  • 06.02.2006 4:50 PM PDT

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