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Subject: STG Johnson was a Spartan 1- Whats the proof?
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deej pls

I am debating this subject. I know that developers said it, and bordens said it too.

Does it say it in Contact Harvest though? Also, is there any way bungie put the proof in a game?

  • 04.25.2012 7:25 PM PDT

-Watertribe-

Just because it never says he's a spartan I in game doesn't mean he isn't one. He is a spartan I, end of discussion.

  • 04.25.2012 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Avatar Korra
Just because it never says he's a spartan I in game doesn't mean he isn't one. He is a spartan I, end of discussion.

He refuses to believe anything unless it was in the games, or Contact Harvest.

  • 04.25.2012 7:30 PM PDT

If Bungie said it while they were in charge of Halo, it's canon.

Asking for proof is like asking for proof that Noble Six died man. You never see Noble Six die in the game, but Bungie said he died.

Besides the Spartan I program was meant to be a secret, so Johnson wouldn't go around telling the marines he's a Spartan I. He MIGHT have told Chief if they were alone but they are usually in the company of regular humans so he never mentioned it.

Besides, Johnson is kickass. No wonder he's a Spartan I.

  • 04.25.2012 8:04 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Contact Harvest and the Graphic Novel say he is.

  • 04.25.2012 8:13 PM PDT

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He was apart of Project Orion. Project Orion was later renamed Spartan-I program, thus making him a Spartan-I. Halsey felt the name "Orion" was a bit weak. That would mean that Spartan-IIs are Orion-IIs?

  • 04.25.2012 9:08 PM PDT
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deej pls


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Contact Harvest and the Graphic Novel say he is.

Could someone refer to the page number please?

  • 04.26.2012 12:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: RogueRainbowX

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Contact Harvest and the Graphic Novel say he is.

Could someone refer to the page number please?
Just look it up on google...

  • 04.26.2012 3:31 AM PDT

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  • 04.26.2012 4:05 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

The fact that, when asked who his favourite Spartan was, Joe Staten replied with: "Well, if we're counting Spartan-Is, Johnson".

Also, in Contact Harvest, when Johnson gets drunk after his aunt dies and is recruited to go to Harvest, there is a direct reference to the ORION Project by the recruiter when he checks Johnson's service record.

  • 04.26.2012 5:08 AM PDT
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The flood didn't attack him in Halo CE?

  • 04.26.2012 6:22 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

No proof in game, but Contact Harvest shows on Johnsons service record that he was part of ORION, which was the codename for the Spartan I project. Apart from that, Joe Staten stated that Johnson was his favorite Spartan...

I think we have proof enough, really.

  • 04.26.2012 8:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Poy Poy
The flood didn't attack him in Halo CE?


The Flood never attacked Johnson because it wouldn't be worth the Gravemind's time. Something about the Orion/Spartan program made Johnson immune to the Flood attempts to assimilate.

So they just move to kill Johnson (like they do with John 117) rather than kill & try to assimilate into the collective.

  • 04.26.2012 8:09 AM PDT

ThoraxeO8

Go to halo waypoint, then the Universe. Then go to charecters, then spartans. The spartan 1 video mentions Johnson being one of the first.

  • 04.26.2012 9:06 AM PDT


Posted by: Uriel S167

Posted by: Poy Poy
The flood didn't attack him in Halo CE?


The Flood never attacked Johnson because it wouldn't be worth the Gravemind's time. Something about the Orion/Spartan program made Johnson immune to the Flood attempts to assimilate.

So they just move to kill Johnson (like they do with John 117) rather than kill & try to assimilate into the collective.

The project scrambled his nervous system to that point where flood just couldn't assimilate him.

  • 04.26.2012 10:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: RogueRainbowX

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Contact Harvest and the Graphic Novel say he is.

Could someone refer to the page number please?


122 for Graphic novel, 47 for Contact Harvest.

  • 04.26.2012 4:48 PM PDT

-Dead Orbit..

for someone who is nearly 80 years old. He is sure young looking and a total badass!!

  • 04.26.2012 7:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Danger wasp 009
for someone who is nearly 80 years old. He is sure young looking and a total badass!!
Cryo. It works miracles.

[Edited on 04.26.2012 7:32 PM PDT]

  • 04.26.2012 7:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan1995324
but Bungie said he died.
They did? Where?

  • 04.26.2012 10:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Uriel S167
Posted by: Poy Poy
The flood didn't attack him in Halo CE?


The Flood never attacked Johnson because it wouldn't be worth the Gravemind's time. Something about the Orion/Spartan program made Johnson immune to the Flood attempts to assimilate.

So they just move to kill Johnson (like they do with John 117) rather than kill & try to assimilate into the collective.

The project scrambled his nervous system to that point where flood just couldn't assimilate him.


I was under the impression that he was simply too tough for the Flood to take down during the events of Halo CE as seen in the HGN. The scrambled nervous system explanation was part of that Borens Syndrome cover-up wasn't it?

  • 04.26.2012 11:00 PM PDT
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It may say it in ODST.

  • 04.27.2012 1:22 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

He was a part of the Orion Project which was renamed the Spartan-I project. That's on page 81 of the Halo encyclopaedia.

  • 04.27.2012 1:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Avatar Korra
Just because it never says he's a spartan I in game doesn't mean he isn't one. He is a spartan I, end of discussion.

He refuses to believe anything unless it was in the games, or Contact Harvest.

So the plethora of other books/the encyclopedia don't count?

Thankfully, your version of canon is not the real one.

  • 04.27.2012 2:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Uriel S167

Posted by: Poy Poy
The flood didn't attack him in Halo CE?


The Flood never attacked Johnson because it wouldn't be worth the Gravemind's time. Something about the Orion/Spartan program made Johnson immune to the Flood attempts to assimilate.

So they just move to kill Johnson (like they do with John 117) rather than kill & try to assimilate into the collective.


And here's were I come in.

Johnson's time with Orion resulted in him contracting a rare disease known as Boren's syndrome. This was covered up in files stating that Johnson captured a crate of 200 plasma grenades on some colony world under attack by the covenant, and he used them all. As a result, he got a massive dose of radiation, causing his disease.

But on to the point, this disease "scrambles" your nervous system, which is what the flood use to take control of your body. To the flood infection forms, Johnson had no central nervous system.

They mobbed him, attempted to infect him, and then left him be. Johnson came to after some time, and fought his way through the facility he was in.

The Flood had no controlling Gravemind on this ring at this point, so they were in a very simple feral state, infecting what they could, and gathering bodies to form a gravemind.

As a result, Flood simply attacked him rather than attempting to infect him.

And, on another note, John was almost infected when returning to the pillar of autumn to destroy it. A combat form jumped him and smashed the back of his head with a wrench, depleting his shields, when an infection form got one if it's stingers through a soft spot in the suits neck. he was saved by Cortana who used his suits power supply to run a current on the outside of the armour, killing his attempted infectee.

  • 04.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sandtrap
Johnson's time with Orion resulted in him contracting a rare disease known as Boren's syndrome. This was covered up in files stating that Johnson captured a crate of 200 plasma grenades on some colony world under attack by the covenant, and he used them all. As a result, he got a massive dose of radiation, causing his disease.

But on to the point, this disease "scrambles" your nervous system, which is what the flood use to take control of your body. To the flood infection forms, Johnson had no central nervous system.


And here's where I come in.

The employment of Boren's Syndrome on the record of ORION Project candidates was a cover-up by ONI to disguise their augmentations. It was a real disease, but it wasn't the reason for Johnson being unable to be infected by the Flood.

  • 04.27.2012 4:19 PM PDT

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