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Subject: After seeing Halo 4, I love Reach.

The shadow on the wall.

Silent


Posted by: SatansReverence

Posted by: SilentA98
I said wait for more info, not until the noose is around your neck. We dont even know what they DO!


The point.
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Your head.


*Facepalm* i know what you're trying to say. But hating on these things at the time being is like hating a cat/dog or whatever animal when you've only seen the tip of its tail.

I'm not telling you to wait til its too late, just saying dont judge it til you know more about...

Trust me, when we get more info you can go crazy. At that point, its opinion instead of wild assumptions and speculations.

Comprendae?

  • 04.27.2012 9:29 AM PDT


Posted by: SilentA98
*Facepalm* i know what you're trying to say. But hating on these things at the time being is like hating a cat/dog or whatever animal when you've only seen the tip of its tail.

I'm not telling you to wait til its too late, just saying dont judge it til you know more about...

Trust me, when we get more info you can go crazy. At that point, its opinion instead of wild assumptions and speculations.

Comprendae?


Wait until you know more becomes

Wait until you try it for yourself than becomes

Wait until they fix it and than it finally becomes

Wait until the next game.

  • 04.27.2012 9:33 AM PDT

The shadow on the wall.

Silent

Honestly, i dont need to play it to know its bad. All i need to know is what it does.

I judged reach before it came out too, and i didnt even get the beta.

  • 04.27.2012 9:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: SilentA98
Trust me, when we get more info you can go crazy. At that point, its opinion instead of wild assumptions and speculations.

Comprendae?
Define "more info".

Look at it this way, if the developers don't hear any complaints about random weapon spawns, instant spawns, gameplay affecting loadouts (because we are all waiting for more info ad infinitum), then the developers will think the community likes these changes. It's our jobs as fans to dissect everything they say and do so the developers know exactly how their fans feel about what is going into the game.

  • 04.27.2012 9:37 AM PDT

The shadow on the wall.

Silent

See, there is discussing things and putting it forward why we dont like them, and then there is mindlessly hating.

More info? We dont even know what some of these items do or how they work.

More info to me means knowing what they all do.

  • 04.27.2012 9:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: SatansReverence

Posted by: SilentA98
*Facepalm* i know what you're trying to say. But hating on these things at the time being is like hating a cat/dog or whatever animal when you've only seen the tip of its tail.

I'm not telling you to wait til its too late, just saying dont judge it til you know more about...

Trust me, when we get more info you can go crazy. At that point, its opinion instead of wild assumptions and speculations.

Comprendae?


Wait until you know more becomes

Wait until you try it for yourself than becomes

Wait until they fix it and than it finally becomes

Wait until the next game.


Then perhaps it's time for you to hang up Halo for good, if all you expect is disappointment.

Less then a year ago, this site was full(er) of idiot "OMG Bungiez made poopy gaem.", "Reach ams teh sucks, I hates it so much (despite 10s of thousands of games), fix its 343!", "Fwankie ams the big bald beatiful guiding light, Halos is saved! Yay! <3 4 <3 teehee!"

Still feel the same way now? Or is that just another assumption you kids got burned on?

  • 04.27.2012 10:02 AM PDT


Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Still feel the same way now? Or is that just another assumption you kids got burned on?


I never put any trust in 343 and I'm glad I haven't.

We thought Reach would be good because Bungie claimed they were fixing it and not releasing a broken game. Bungie lied. We realised this.

We aren't just going to trust 343 on face value.

  • 04.27.2012 10:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: SatansReverence

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Still feel the same way now? Or is that just another assumption you kids got burned on?


I never put any trust in 343 and I'm glad I haven't.

We thought Reach would be good because Bungie claimed they were fixing it and not releasing a broken game. Bungie lied. We realised this.

We aren't just going to trust 343 on face value.


Says you. Should have been here in October.

  • 04.27.2012 10:07 AM PDT


Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

Posted by: SatansReverence

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Still feel the same way now? Or is that just another assumption you kids got burned on?


I never put any trust in 343 and I'm glad I haven't.

We thought Reach would be good because Bungie claimed they were fixing it and not releasing a broken game. Bungie lied. We realised this.

We aren't just going to trust 343 on face value.


Says you. Should have been here in October.


Been here since pre Halo 2 days...

And there was some concern for Halo Reach pre launch but Bungie acted as though they actually listened to the Beta feedback when in actual fact they didn't care about anything other than worthless glitches.

Oh, and added a whole 3 bullets to the DMR.

Unfortunately for Bungies next game, I doubt many will just accept it straight up with how poorly they handled Reach and the community.

  • 04.27.2012 10:09 AM PDT

Posted by: SatansReverence
And there was some concern for Halo Reach pre launch but Bungie acted as though they actually listened to the Beta feedback when in actual fact they didn't care about anything other than worthless glitches.
What kind of things? They changed Armor Lock to what the community wanted. They changed Bloom to what the community wanted.

When the game came out, they were forced to hold off on actual updates after a certain point so 343 could do them in a few months, to smooth the transition. The fact that the community changed its mind about what it wanted after the fact does not change the fact that Bungie listened to the fans and changed a ton of things based on community feedback.
:/

  • 04.27.2012 10:20 AM PDT


Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: SatansReverence
And there was some concern for Halo Reach pre launch but Bungie acted as though they actually listened to the Beta feedback when in actual fact they didn't care about anything other than worthless glitches.
What kind of things? They changed Armor Lock to what the community wanted. They changed Bloom to what the community wanted.

When the game came out, they were forced to hold off on actual updates after a certain point so 343 could do them in a few months, to smooth the transition. The fact that the community changed its mind about what it wanted after the fact does not change the fact that Bungie listened to the fans and changed a ton of things based on community feedback.
:/


Bloom never changed.

And they already had their armour lock plans figured out before the beta.

Grenukes.
Herp-A-Derp.
Terrible maps.
Randomised mute bans.
And more, none of these got the fixes they deserved.

  • 04.27.2012 10:23 AM PDT
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  • 04.27.2012 10:24 AM PDT


Posted by: Dr Syx
This was predicted long ago.


Doesn't work because Reach is as equally terrible.

  • 04.27.2012 10:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Then perhaps it's time for you to hang up Halo for good, if all you expect is disappointment.
Perhaps. To me, Reach was an average game, but didn't live up to its predecessors. A AAA franchise like Halo was bound to turn to the CoD side eventually, so I can't say I'm surprised. There have been a lot of let downs with sequels among my favorite games these past few years, and I doubt 343 can reverse that trend.

I'm actually waiting for Planetside 2. It fills my Halo and Battlefield interests quite well. If Halo 4 doesn't reverse the trend that started after Halo 2, then I have a reason to finally sell my Xbox. If a miracle occurs and Halo 4 brings about a golden age of gaming again, then that is one more great game I can spend time enjoying. I feel dirty saying this, but it's a win-win either way for me.

Posted by: SilentA98
See, there is discussing things and putting it forward why we dont like them, and then there is mindlessly hating.

More info? We dont even know what some of these items do or how they work.

More info to me means knowing what they all do.
You still haven't clearly defined when I'm allowed to criticize the game. Considering the only way to know for sure how a game feels is to play it, and there isn't going to be a beta, in order to make a 100% informed opinion I have to wait until the game comes out.

Besides, mindless hatred is just as valuable feedback as the multi-volumed posts you see from Hylebos or A 3 Legged Goat. If you get enough complaints from fans about a game mechanic, regardless of the quality of the hatred, it is something you as a developer should probably look into (after all, you created the game so your fans could have fun playing it, and it looks like a sizable chunk of them aren't having fun). Mindless hatred gets their attention, while long, thought out posts get the point across.

  • 04.27.2012 10:27 AM PDT

Posted by: SatansReverence
Bloom never changed.
The excessive recoil was eliminated based on community demands.

And they already had their armour lock plans figured out before the beta.Where did you hear that?

Grenukes.Lessened in power since beta based on community demands.

Terrible maps.That's not a community complaint. That's just a complaint the loudest people have. Most people like maps in Halo: Reach.

Randomised mute bans.
They're based on players muting you. That is not random.
And more, none of these got the fixes they deserved.Two things.

A. You aren't saying things that need to be ''fixed.''
B. You are saying things you [for some reason] think need to be fixed, but you're completely ignoring the dozens of changes Bungie made based on Community Input.

So. My question... are you basically saying, "It doesn't matter what Bungie changed based on the community's wants, since they didn't change EVERYTHING they don't listen to the community!"

If so you're an idiot, but I'm giving you more credit than that.

  • 04.27.2012 10:31 AM PDT


Posted by: Kaiman
Seeing how Call of Halo 4 is going down, I now realize how good Reach is compared to 343's atrocity.


I agree

  • 04.27.2012 11:23 AM PDT
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How did you receive your early copy of Halo IV?

  • 04.27.2012 11:38 AM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

No. Reach is the worst Halo game, and it will be referred to as such forever.

  • 04.27.2012 12:46 PM PDT

i like all Halo games.

  • 04.27.2012 12:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kaiman
Seeing how Call of Halo 4 is going down, I now realize how good Reach is compared to 343's atrocity.

The game hasn't even came out yet. Give the company a chance and stop making retarded assumptions.

  • 04.27.2012 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Not Sure
After playing Halo 3, I love Halo 2.
After playing Reach, I love Halo 3.
After playing Halo 4, I love Reach.

ffs


yeah, not being narrow minded, but this is how the topic is going. This is how every "next halo" topic has gone and always will go. Whether it's because the forums are inhabited by 12 year olds or because the game devs keep sticking to new lows of product economy, we'll never know.

inb4 liking h3 when it came out.

  • 04.27.2012 4:24 PM PDT

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  • 04.27.2012 4:49 PM PDT

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lol. Same -blam!- every year. People always complain about what is coming out next and suddenly love the previous release...

  • 04.27.2012 5:04 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.


Posted by: Not Sure
After playing Halo 4, I love Reach.
After playing Reach, I love Halo 3.
After playing Halo 3, I love Halo 2.
After playing Halo 2, I love Halo CE.
it happens with every game,

the same could be said with plenty of other franchises

After playing Skyrim, I love Oblivion.
After playing Oblivion, I love Morrowind.
After playing Morrowind, I love Daggerfall.
After playing Daggerfall, I love Arena.

After playing MW3, I love Black Ops.
After playing Black Ops, I love MW2.
After playing MW2, I love W@W.
After playing W@W, I love CoD 4.

After playing BF3, I love BFBC2.
After playing BFBC2, I love BFBC. etc etc etc

ya get the idea,


the gaming industry will be alot better when this trend dies.

  • 04.27.2012 5:04 PM PDT

In all honesty Halo reach is a great game, although compared to the other Halo titles it's certainly not the best.

  • 04.27.2012 5:19 PM PDT