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Posted by: alexander2006
Yes everyone does, but simply relating it to Noah's ark is so plainly obvious, just wondering if anyone has anything extra on what i think. The antartica thing was true, but to say why the date changed i havnt got an answer for. Its just another un explained thing, you cant explain that it didnt happen, but i have a source to say it did.

HOPEFULLY the link should now work!


What i'm getting at is, if there was a time gate and it did send the balloon back in time the time on the clock shouldn't change at all... Clocks don't 'see' time in the same way we do. So they aren't affected by our definition of time. they act in a purely mechanical way. So for example. lets say you get on a plane in New York and Travel to London. Before you depart you set your watch to 12 am. The journey takes, say, 9 hours. What times does does your watch say in London?? Easy, right? 9 pm. What time is it actually in London?? More like 4 am the next day. The clock doesn't know the difference. It just keeps on going no matter where it is or how it's travelling....

Still not convinced... Well what about this. What if it actually did go back in time? And what if the date did actually change to the date it went back to when it was there? Wouldn't going the opposite way through the time gate have the opposite effect. So, one way sends you back, the other way brings you forward, right? so would the clock turn forward when it was coming forward just as it went backward when it was going backward?? So the date should have been the same when the scientists examined it again. That is unless there was someone in Antarctica 30 years ago to set the clock back another 30 years...

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if you read the article it actually says its a chromometre or something, not actually a clock, i was saying it was a clock because I thought you woould have surmised it for yourself. Obviously, I was wrong, you actually beleived they would tie a proper clock with a face and everything to a professional weather balloon? and as for your reversal time question, why shudnt the date be the same? how do you know how far it went INTO the 'gate', it cud simply have got stuck halfway through. And another thing, the laws of time defy that a time wormhole going backwards cannot go forwards in time when being pulled back through, because one hole is in, and the other is out, it dusnt work both ways. The balloon will have been sucked through a wormhole, and to pull it out would have been just like pulling it out of an ordinary hole. Answer that.

  • 06.04.2006 9:13 AM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

woah! cool theory! it would explain why we appear to be alone in the universe (not in halo, in reality). but i don't think bungie will include book stuff in the h3 plot.

  • 06.04.2006 9:17 AM PDT
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thats in the books? :O ive ordered them theyre to come on monday or something :D

  • 06.04.2006 9:18 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

Posted by: alexander2006
if you read the article it actually says its a chromometre or something, not actually a clock, i was saying it was a clock because I thought you woould have surmised it for yourself. Obviously, I was wrong, you actually beleived they would tie a proper clock with a face and everything to a professional weather balloon? and as for your reversal time question, why shudnt the date be the same? how do you know how far it went INTO the 'gate', it cud simply have got stuck halfway through. And another thing, the laws of time defy that a time wormhole going backwards cannot go forwards in time when being pulled back through, because one hole is in, and the other is out, it dusnt work both ways. The balloon will have been sucked through a wormhole, and to pull it out would have been just like pulling it out of an ordinary hole. Answer that.


A Chronometer is nothing more than a fancy clock that is extremely accurate. It's still a clock that keeps time by separating time into increments and ticking through those increments. Whether it uses gears or circuits it's still a clock.

It wouldn't matter how far it went into the whole... Lets say it went 50%, so the change would be say 15 years to keep things simple. So one way it changes 15 years, Wouldn't pulling it the other way change the clock 15 years in the other direction? It's true that many scientist think that wormholes act one way. But if that's true they wouldn't have been able to pull the balloon out of the hole once it had gone anyway in.

I'm not trying to criticise your basic theory, but the science in that article is bogus... In fact that is the only website where i can find that particular experiment described with out referring back to that particular article in some way. Which leads me to believe that it's nonsense...Show me the research paper on this experiment and i'll consider it.

-Stu

  • 06.04.2006 9:29 AM PDT
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why are you the boss of whether things are bogus or not?
how do you know that you cant pull a balloon out of a one way wormhole? it cud be like pulling it out of a regular hole for all you know. I didnt write the article, im just posting a theory, the fact is no one knows these things and im just trying to support a stupid idea i had about the 'thing' in the trailer. w/e i cant be arsed to argue
forget this theory folks, its obviously just bogus

  • 06.04.2006 9:33 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

I'm not saying that your theory is bogus... just that article seems bogus from my point of view.

To me, it just doesn't add up. People seem to think that because something is written or posted on the internet that it must be true. People also think that because the majority of people think that something is true then it must also be true. Neither of these are the case, and without real evidence these things should be treated with a good degree of scepticism.

You basic theory is interesting and worth looking into. But not solely on the strength of that article....

-Stu

  • 06.04.2006 9:49 AM PDT
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mhm, if it is in the first writing of this thread, then the theory needs more evidence, if it isnt there then i shud include it, im just saying people don't know these things and thats the only source of information i can find on the subject, nice come backs to the arguements tho :P

  • 06.04.2006 9:51 AM PDT

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