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Subject: Bloom or no Bloom?

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: WhackyGordon
Apparently the DMR and the AR use the same bullets - let's see somebody logic that out lol


A 5 shot AR? People would flip their -blam!- in a heartbeat.

  • 05.10.2012 4:01 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

lol apparently the rounds in the DMR and AR are particularly ineffective against vehicles too

  • 05.10.2012 4:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: WhackyGordon
lol apparently the rounds in the DMR and AR are particularly ineffective against vehicles too


Yet it is considered "armor piercing".

  • 05.10.2012 5:00 PM PDT

"That suckquake of a movie was a complete wastenado of my seven bucksonsoon"


Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach

  • 05.10.2012 5:25 PM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
That's funny, cause it conicides with your ability to only write up to 2 lines. Sorry that you're incapable of reading more than that.

I hear weed makes a pretty good medication for people with ADD.


You have downs. Please get yourself checked out.

  • 05.10.2012 5:26 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


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Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach


No.

  • 05.10.2012 5:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: CH4MP10N 573V3N
Posted by: MR E0S
Halo revolves around 1 Utility Weapon

That only happens when the devs screw up the sandbox (every Halo game except CE).



So the CE Pistol was what then?

A weapon that was effective in all niches but could be beat in areas where other weapons niches were superior.

Oh, a utility weapon then just with a balanced sandbox.

  • 05.10.2012 5:50 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


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Posted by: WhackyGordon
lol apparently the rounds in the DMR and AR are particularly ineffective against vehicles too


Yet it is considered "armor piercing".


Most armor piercing rounds actually are ineffective at stopping vehicles. A bullet does no good if it goes THROUGH what it's supposed to stop.

  • 05.10.2012 7:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: chocolategiraffe

Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach


Outside of automatics, the only precision weapon to have "bloom" in any of the previous games, was the CE pistol in, you guessed it, automatic mode.

  • 05.10.2012 7:28 PM PDT

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I'd rather see where my bullets have a possibility of going, rather than be blind to it. I'm all for changing the spread modifier mechanics, but that's not the same thing as bloom (visual indicator of spread).

  • 05.10.2012 9:36 PM PDT

Frank O'Connor said he doesn't think the Halo series needs to be taken in a radical new direction... it just needs to go "deeper"

"Ultimately the core game mechanic and strength of the universe doesn't need to be changed, it just needs to be taken deeper. We want to make Halo games - we don't want to make Call of Duty or Ridge Racer. We want to make Halo games because we understand what's special about Halo."

I hate luck when shooting.

Randomness doesn't belong in a competitive game.

  • 05.10.2012 9:51 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

That's to bad, because alot of really good competitive games, have elements of luck in them. And that luck is what makes those games so great. Because it makes it interesting to see what luck creates. Without luck, you get boring.

Imagine if you took all elements of luck out of a competitive game like .. 'Texas Hold em'. It's boring enough with the luck element. In fact, luck is the only redeeming value that keeps people awake and interested in the game in general.

And it is no coincidence that the same people consistently make it to the final table.

I also just got done reading some article about some TryHard MLG Counterstrike player who switched to poker.

Think long and hard about all the fuss you make over the luck that bloom introduced to the game. You should come to a sobering conclusion about yourselves and how you really don't even deserve to call yourself a competitive player if your unwilling to overcome something as minor as bloom.

I would think a true competitive player would welcome the challenge of overcoming it. Because like all true poker players. Its not about the occasional encounter you might lose to luck. It's the about the long haul, and if you're skillful, it will show.

Honestly, out of 10 battles, how many do you honestly lose to luck associated with bloom on the DMR? probably not very many when you consider all the other variables involved in each and every battle that takes place.

And, if your finding yourself consistently in 1v1 battles with nothing but DMR spam between the 2 of you. You're doing something wrong.

[Edited on 05.11.2012 12:00 AM PDT]

  • 05.10.2012 11:51 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: chocolategiraffe

Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach


No.

In H3, carbine and BR had ridiculous spread. Also reticule size was huge.

  • 05.11.2012 12:30 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: chocolategiraffe

Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach


No.

In H3, carbine and BR had ridiculous spread. Also reticule size was huge.


Still didn't have bloom.

  • 05.11.2012 5:56 AM PDT

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I don't like bloom. 100% is awful, 85% isn't so bad, but no bloom is by far the best (for precision weapons, I actually agree with the concept on automatics).

Rather than just nerfing everything into oblivion (bloom on precision weapons, lengthening kill times etc etc) why not just buff the weaker weapons? And make them more difficult to use too so the average kill time is still between 1 and 2 seconds, but the minimum kill times are hovering around 1 second. Suddenly everything is more fun to use, the game's pace is similar for most people but players who excel will be able to demonstrate their raw skill more often.

  • 05.11.2012 6:07 AM PDT

Posted by: ღMidnight Hawk2ღ
Everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion.


I'm part of the Bungie.net Minecraft group/server called SeptaCrafters
We're a Bungie.net group that goes to our very own Bungie server. Most players are from the Halo community either off Bungie itself or through word to Halo friends.

I actually like bloom...But that's because I am a casual xD



Posted by: SouthPoIe
Anyone who actually votes for bloom is bad. Fun fact.



Everyone is bad compared to someone.

  • 05.11.2012 6:43 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

So I just thought of a way to put it all in perspective for you.

I'm going to use the most competitive game ever created as an example too.

WAR! No really, and actual real life battle.
Is that not the most competitive thing you can possibly think of? Everyone's life is on the line to win that one. Doesn't get more competitive than that.

Now look at all the randomness and luck inherent in a real life battle scenario. They actually have to overcome 10000x more variables than you ever would playing a game like Halo.

Now look at yourself, -blam!-ing about bloom....

I'd like to see how much you -blam!- to your commanding officer about how innaccurate the standard issue rifle is compared to your zero bloom guns on Halo.

When you're at the gates of hell, you can tell Cerberus that you lost because of recoil on the gun they gave you. Because the sun was shining in your eyes, etc.

[Edited on 05.11.2012 11:54 AM PDT]

  • 05.11.2012 11:42 AM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
So I just thought of a way to put it all in perspective for you.

I'm going to use the most competitive game ever created as an example too.

WAR! No really, and actual real life battle.
Is that not the most competitive thing you can possibly think of? Everyone's life is on the line to win that one. Doesn't get more competitive than that.

Now look at all the randomness and luck inherent in a real life battle scenario. They actually have to overcome 10000x more variables than you ever would playing a game like Halo.

Now look at yourself, -blam!-ing about bloom....

I'd like to see how much you -blam!- to your commanding officer about how innaccurate the standard issue rifle is compared to your zero bloom guns on Halo.


its becoming more apparent that you're mentally handicapped.

  • 05.11.2012 11:47 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

And you still struggle to type out more than a single line of crap.

You're unworthy of responding to me. Stop.

  • 05.11.2012 11:49 AM PDT

i can sit here and type a completely retarded and irrelevant rage filled essay just like you do, but i know how to get my points across without looking like an idiot.


Whats it like living in a constant haze of stupidity?

  • 05.11.2012 11:53 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

And yet, still, struggling to type out anything beyond trying to get yourself noticed for simply responding to me.

Why are you responding to me?

  • 05.11.2012 11:54 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Ghostie117

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: chocolategiraffe

Posted by: TS Legaia

Posted by: da 70 70 hatred
I like bloom.
So you take luck anyday over a satifying skillfull kill? Good to know where gamers now stand, without reason it seems.

bloom was alwyas there, it just wasnt visually aparrent in the HUD until reach


No.

In H3, carbine and BR had ridiculous spread. Also reticule size was huge.


Spread =/= bloom.

  • 05.11.2012 11:55 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Do you honestly think my celebrity status is going to rub off on you?

What part of my fan club should I put you in.

President is already claimed by....-blam!- forgot already.

Just like I'm going to forget you.

[Edited on 05.11.2012 11:59 AM PDT]

  • 05.11.2012 11:55 AM PDT

To help you understand you make yourself look like a complete idiot, i told you had downs and i suggested you get checked out.
See? im just worried about your mental stability.

you just compared a real life war to a video game thinking you made clever points in whatever you typed.

Seriously you should stop the other people on this forum are very easily influenced and your retardation might contaminate them as well.

  • 05.11.2012 11:59 AM PDT