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Subject: Elites in Halo 4 most likely Servants of Abiding Truth

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So some people are a bit confused on why the Elites are attacking the Chief in Halo 4. I'm convinced that they're possibly the Servants of Abiding Truth. Touching Forerunner tech is heresy, and they already don't like humans. So if a human ship were to go to a Shield World, they would do everything they could to kill the humans on board.

Though it could be possible that these Elites are simply the Anti-Arbiter Elites and they plan on recovering any Forerunner tech from the Shield World. They don't want the humans to get it so they try to kill whoever is on board. The Elites probably send several warnings to the ship but with no answer so they go in by force.

  • 04.28.2012 7:29 PM PDT

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They are salvaging the ship. They arn't equipped with standard Covenant equitment. So they arn't regular soldiers.

Also post this in the flood.

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  • 04.28.2012 7:30 PM PDT

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  • 04.28.2012 9:15 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Wait, they are? Link? I haven't gotten to see that info yet.

Anyway, I'll be a bit disappointed if we're fighting Elites again, we've been blasting them away for more than ten years now, they got old a while ago. If anything though, I'm thinking they'll be a sect of Elites still believing in the Great Journey but moving away from the Prophets.

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  • 04.28.2012 11:59 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
Wait, they are? Link? I haven't gotten to see that info yet.

Anyway, I'll be a bit disappointed if we're fighting Elites again, we've been blasting them away for more than ten years now, they got old a while ago. If anything though, I'm thinking they'll be a sect of Elites still believing in the Great Journey but moving away from the Prophets.


They're not the main threat, not even close. Having us fight some Covenant is just a caveat of game design; we've got a whole new trilogy after five years since the last 'main' game, and there needs to be anchors to the original trilogy other than just John and Cortana. Having us fight Covenant at the beginning grounds what will be a game full of the unknown and new, and it's a nice throwback to the first trilogy.

What's most surprising for me is just that they're there. I had thought the Forward Unto Dawn was way, way off the map. I guess not.

  • 04.29.2012 1:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Wait, they are? Link? I haven't gotten to see that info yet.

Anyway, I'll be a bit disappointed if we're fighting Elites again, we've been blasting them away for more than ten years now, they got old a while ago. If anything though, I'm thinking they'll be a sect of Elites still believing in the Great Journey but moving away from the Prophets.


They're not the main threat, not even close. Having us fight some Covenant is just a caveat of game design; we've got a whole new trilogy after five years since the last 'main' game, and there needs to be anchors to the original trilogy other than just John and Cortana. Having us fight Covenant at the beginning grounds what will be a game full of the unknown and new, and it's a nice throwback to the first trilogy.

What's most surprising for me is just that they're there. I had thought the Forward Unto Dawn was way, way off the map. I guess not.


Why is that surprising? I thought you knew they're going to Sanghelios... ;)

  • 04.29.2012 3:29 AM PDT

If only...

  • 04.29.2012 3:41 AM PDT

http://bungie.me/sig/noble/Stealth+Fox74.png

and the rest of the covenant (or at least grunts) are help the elites?


Anyways i would also like to have some elites as allies. i liked that in Halo 3

  • 04.29.2012 7:42 AM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
If anything though, I'm thinking they'll be a sect of Elites still believing in the Great Journey but moving away from the Prophets.


That's what the Servants of Abiding Truth are. So yeah, that's what it's looking like.

And as 'Frog said, they aren't the main enemy. They'll likely take the same position that the Flood held, the secondary antagonist next to the new main one.

  • 04.29.2012 7:51 AM PDT

Rawr.


Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
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Though it could be possible that these Elites are simply the Anti-Arbiter Elites and they plan on recovering any Forerunner tech from the Shield World. They don't want the humans to get it so they try to kill whoever is on board. The Elites probably send several warnings to the ship but with no answer so they go in by force.

Well Cortana was on board, a Forerunner AI could totally answer to those warnings, sorry but I beg to differ.

  • 04.29.2012 8:16 AM PDT
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...Or they were simply trapped inside the shield world, or simply weren't informed that the war was over.

  • 04.29.2012 8:35 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

The Servants of Abiding Truth are not synonymous with those who want to annihilate the UNSC, nor are they powerful enough to gain control of an entire fleet. They only have one ship at the end of Glasslands, and had to trick their way through the system in order to get it.

  • 04.29.2012 9:46 AM PDT

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Yes, but do not forget. It has been some years since then. On top of that what if the Arbiter were to find out about how we humans [SPOILERS] were selling them weapons just to create a civil war between the elites so we could establish or dominance in the galaxy? I don't know about you but Thel seems like the guy who wouldn't stand by after being double crossed by seemingly ally's.

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Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Wait, they are? Link? I haven't gotten to see that info yet.

Anyway, I'll be a bit disappointed if we're fighting Elites again, we've been blasting them away for more than ten years now, they got old a while ago. If anything though, I'm thinking they'll be a sect of Elites still believing in the Great Journey but moving away from the Prophets.


They're not the main threat, not even close. Having us fight some Covenant is just a caveat of game design; we've got a whole new trilogy after five years since the last 'main' game, and there needs to be anchors to the original trilogy other than just John and Cortana. Having us fight Covenant at the beginning grounds what will be a game full of the unknown and new, and it's a nice throwback to the first trilogy.

What's most surprising for me is just that they're there. I had thought the Forward Unto Dawn was way, way off the map. I guess not.


This

And the new threat will not be like fighting a different skinned Covenant, they will fight differently than the Covenant. According to the GameInformer article:

"From a creative standpoint, in approaching that enemy we wanted to create something that played very different from the Covenant. We didn't want it to just feel like something that looks different bit still plays the same way. We wanted to create a set of enemies that work together in a collaborative way, where each one of those enemies builds on and accentuates the abilities of the others. So when you face an individual enemy they offer one challenge, but as you layer those enemies together it changes the experience in important ways and heightens the challenge. If anything, they're kind of elevated in terms of their intellegence and complexity relative to the Covenant."

From creative director Josh Holmes, 343 Industries.

[Edited on 04.29.2012 12:11 PM PDT]

  • 04.29.2012 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
The Servants of Abiding Truth are not synonymous with those who want to annihilate the UNSC, nor are they powerful enough to gain control of an entire fleet. They only have one ship at the end of Glasslands, and had to trick their way through the system in order to get it.

There is a 4+ year gap between the end of Glasslands and the beginning of Halo 4. Will not explain how they have an entire fleet, but there's certainly the chance to grab hold of a few more Elite ships.

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Posted by: anton1792
The Servants of Abiding Truth are not synonymous with those who want to annihilate the UNSC, nor are they powerful enough to gain control of an entire fleet. They only have one ship at the end of Glasslands, and had to trick their way through the system in order to get it.

There is a 4+ year gap between the end of Glasslands and the beginning of Halo 4. Will not explain how they have an entire fleet, but there's certainly the chance to grab hold of a few more Elite ships.

Why would they need a fleet any way? As far as they knew, the FuD was just a derelict ship drifting through space, hardly something that needs an army.

  • 04.29.2012 12:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
The Servants of Abiding Truth are not synonymous with those who want to annihilate the UNSC, nor are they powerful enough to gain control of an entire fleet. They only have one ship at the end of Glasslands, and had to trick their way through the system in order to get it.

There is a 4+ year gap between the end of Glasslands and the beginning of Halo 4. Will not explain how they have an entire fleet, but there's certainly the chance to grab hold of a few more Elite ships.


Not sure where they will get more ships. The Return, set in 2558, mentions the Elites hunting down and killing any Brutes they could find. It also mentions that they were losing ships and had no way to repair or replace them. Yet apparently there are enough ships for an anti-human fleet and a anti-Brute fleet.

I'd love to see the mental gymnastics this will require.

  • 04.29.2012 12:26 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

It makes a bit more sense for it to be the Elites in general, though the Servants may have ousted Thel and assumed control, so it could technically be them that way. Though they were never directly synonymous with the Elites hatred for Humanity anyway, that is just the Elites in general. It doesn't have to be the Servants. Otherwise, where does this fleet get enough fuel to keep all these ships going? Where do they get food supplies for their crews? Weapons and ammunition? Replacement parts? Did their crews of hundreds just all get up and leave their families and lives behind?

  • 04.29.2012 12:30 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Obviously they must have Brutes keep their stuff running, because after all the brutes were known for being smart.

/sarcasm
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

They have offscreen villain dark matter. They need no supplies.

In all seriousness, they probably just trade with other covenant factions or rebels. The covenant had supplies before the war, it would be easy to just find their supplies and pick them up. Just because Truth died doesn't mean that every covenant fuel refinery stopped working. They could probably get plenty of supplies from Venezia.

  • 04.29.2012 12:47 PM PDT
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They're probably just something as simple as scavengers.

The Grunts are probably mutants, if you know what I mean.

  • 04.29.2012 1:18 PM PDT
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