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Subject: If Bungie listens to anything we say, it better be this.

I am sure a lot of people here have been posting their theories and telling each other what they want in the game. Well i want to make a simple statement that i am sure will make the campaign amazing.

Make it like Halo CE.

The campaign was simply 30 seconds of fun, over and over and over again. It was, and is to this day the best campaign i have ever played, it's uncomplicated, it's action and it's fun. Thats all we want to see. Sure graphical improvements and better AI are good, but i think Bungie hit the nail on the head with halo. They had the perfect formula. Halo 2 had it's fun points, but some of the levels were lacking something, i think what made the halo campaign so good was the sheer Vastness of it. AOTCR, two betrayals, the library, The Maw. It was a great combination of Forerunner, ring world and covenant/human settings. In halo 2 we found everything was VERY covenant or VERY Human, and we missed the battles we used to see in Halo.

Well, to my point. If Bungie can capture that feeling of power and thrill you get when playing Halo. And improve the multiplayer in any ways they can. Halo 3 will simply be the only game you will need.

Thanks for reading.

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  • 06.03.2006 11:26 AM PDT
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Halo 2 was far better than Halo 1. Halo 2 is perfect in every way you look at it. The only thing they could improve is the graphics. I hope Halo 3s single player and multiplayer is as fun as halo 2s.

  • 06.03.2006 11:29 AM PDT
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No. Now shut up and go away. Why do people want the exact same game? If you vant CE go -blam!- play CE.

  • 06.03.2006 11:29 AM PDT
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I agree. Halo 3 should be Halo with better graphics and a different storyline.

  • 06.03.2006 11:31 AM PDT

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Actually, the rumour that is circulating throughout the video game community is that the campaign is not going to be as linear as it was in Halo:CE or Halo 2. It's been hinted that certain objectives you choose or choose not to complete are going to have specific effects at later points in the game. Thereby, making campaign a little different each time you play if you choose or choose not to do something.

  • 06.03.2006 11:31 AM PDT
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Actually, the rumour that is circulating throughout the video game community is that the campaign is not going to be as linear as it was in Halo:CE or Halo 2. It's been hinted that certain objectives you choose or choose not to complete are going to have specific effects at later points in the game. Thereby, making campaign a little different each time you play if you choose or choose not to do something.

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  • 06.03.2006 11:39 AM PDT
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I think Halo 3 should be like Halo 3. I don't think it should try to ape either Halo CE or 2. It should innovate and be its own beautiful thing.

  • 06.03.2006 11:42 AM PDT
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Halo 3 should be more like Halo CE

  • 06.03.2006 11:44 AM PDT

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My thoughts exactly AshWalker. These feelings of nostalgia people feel for Halo:CE are limiting their future experiences within the Halo universe. It should be something new and only slightly different to make it as such. It should be Halo 3.

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Posted by: AshWalker
I think Halo 3 should be like Halo 3. I don't think it should try to ape either Halo CE or 2. It should innovate and be its own beautiful thing.

Definetly, Halo 3 should be different

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Halo 3 should retain the best characteristics from 1 and 2 instead of rewritting it for the sake of it (a major problem when going into Halo 2).

Complete change is not good, because it removes good things as well as bad things, and for no reason. Expanding on good things, and removing bad ones is the way forward.

As for the 30 seconds of fun, I don't think Bungie nailed it; I hope they recapture that in Halo 3.

Halo 3 should not merely be Halo 3, rewritting everything from scratch again. Include the good bits from CE. The good things from 2. And why do so many demand that 3 be like 2, but not at all like 1? Have you played 1? Before Halo 2? If you hated the game so much, why did you get 2? If you got 2 before 1 why?

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  • 06.03.2006 11:51 AM PDT
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This could be solved with percents
51% - CE
24% - Halo 2
26% - Halo 3

  • 06.03.2006 12:31 PM PDT
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I liked near the end of halo 2 where enemies were EVERYWHERE. Fighting each other

Elites & grunts VS Brutes, Jackles, hunters, bugs VS The Flood VS Humans

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Posted by: elite89
This could be solved with percents
51% - CE
24% - Halo 2
26% - Halo 3

101% of what?

  • 06.03.2006 12:40 PM PDT
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Halo 3 should be like Halo 3, not like Halo one or halo 2, but like Halo 3.

  • 06.03.2006 12:40 PM PDT

No, you are missing my point. What i am saying is something was lacking from Halo 2, that halo had. Call it the 7 factor..

Bad pun aside, Halo had something about it that no other game had. And i think bungie should attempt to re-capture that. Im not saying make it exactly like halo. I do want to see new features, what i don't want however, is a completly new thing, and thats what i think they did to Halo 2.

I mean, it's just my opinion. You can disagree and say halo 2 was better. When it comes down to it, we had no real input. So what we say is ..well pointless

  • 06.03.2006 3:58 PM PDT

You can't really recapture a feeling with a game, the reason Halo stands out to the majority of us, is because it was the first shooter that was not confined to a maze of hallways. I do agree that Halo 2 was to linear on the path you had to take, and all games are, but the original Halo had large maps that fel like you could tackle them in different ways.

And for the record Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 are both killer games!
My personal favorite was Halo 1 because of my ignorance of the series.

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  • 06.03.2006 4:03 PM PDT
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Personally, I loved the campain of Halo CE but I couldn't get enough of Halo 2's mutliplayer.



Halo 3's campain should be similar to Halo CE but the multiplayer should be similar to Halo 2's.

  • 06.03.2006 4:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lakers13
Halo 2 was far better than Halo 1. Halo 2 is perfect in every way you look at it. The only thing they could improve is the graphics. I hope Halo 3s single player and multiplayer is as fun as halo 2s.


you sicken me.....nothing is perfect, its sad that you cant see the flaws in halo 2s campaign as they were quite obvious, and the mission layout was completely different from halo CE, the kid who started this is right as is 10000 fists, the campaign should be like CE and the multiplayer should be like Halo 2

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  • 06.03.2006 4:21 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

This is the most flawed and vague request I've seen today.

"Make it like Halo CE." How? What exactly entails beiing like Halo CE?

Anyways, this is gonna turn into a flame war if you guys start yelling at each other over which game was better, which is a moot discussion, I might add.

  • 06.03.2006 4:28 PM PDT

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  • 06.03.2006 4:39 PM PDT

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I just hope they don't have a "Contra Effect" with this game. Contra was a great game with the first few incarnations. Then, they went top down 3-D with the PS1. They turned a great game into poop overnight. Why fix something that isn't broken?! They can add all the bells and whistles that they want but they shouldn't change the essence of what the game is. Unfortunately, there are some developers that don't know what that is with there own games and completely ruin the experience. I hope Bungie keeps that in mind. I do have faith in them though. With H3, all I want them to add is an online co-op mode and I'll be delighted.

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I'll try to narrow the topic to something you people may be able to understand (good on those of you who already can)

Halo CE had massive maps that allowed you to use tactics, sneak past your enemies without having to fight, and flank your opponents in co-op where one person could attack from a different angle as the other.

Halo 2 offered one path and one path alone. You couldn't avoid and battles except with glitches, and your parter would always have to follow the same route as you. Some of the levels looked huge, but all of that space was dead zone where you couldn't go. The entire campaign was essentially a really long hallway.

I'm not a bigtime multiplayer person, so talk to someone else about that. The campaign in Halo CE still amazes me to this very day. The Halo 2 campaign was good the first few times, but it bores me now. The Halo 3 campaign and Halo CE campaign should deffinately not be identical, but the gamplay should seem similar. There should be multiple ways to get around, ways to make a wrong turn and have to backtrack a bit (343 Guilty Spark anyone?) secret pathes that could lead to vehicles or good weapons. Just give it an open feel that you can exploit.

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i agree about the campaign. it was the best in Halo:CE.it wasnt as fun in halo2.halo2 also lacked story but halo:CE had one of the best stories ever. halo2 story was kind of the same thing all over again and a predictable covenant attack on earth with a few twists.

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  • 06.03.2006 5:09 PM PDT
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Halo CE is Halo CE. Halo 2 is Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3...

  • 06.03.2006 5:15 PM PDT

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