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I think the XBOX Live version should match the game version of the sword. In the game the sword has a charge and becomes useless at a certain point. However currently the sword in XBOX Live has no charge and is unlimitted. The problem is on some maps whoever originally spaws next to the sword has a better chance of winning the game, due to the heavy advantage of the swaord. If the sword were only good for say 5 kills at a time it would even things up a bit.

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Posted by: Turtle55555
I think the XBOX Live version should match the game version of the sword. In the game the sword has a charge and becomes useless at a certain point. However currently the sword in XBOX Live has no charge and is unlimitted. The problem is on some maps whoever originally spaws next to the sword has a better chance of winning the game, due to the heavy advantage of the swaord. If the sword were only good for say 5 kills at a time it would even things up a bit.



I don't get why you guys say the sword isn't a balances weapon.

It isn't my fault if you guys are so horrible you make the stupid mistake of getting too close to me when I have the sword.

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I totally agree. The sword is a power weapon much like the rockets or the sniper, and it having unlimited ammo is just unfair.

Some people say "Well, at least you know when you kill the sword guy, it's not going to have only one lunge left in it". Well what the hell, it's the same with every other weapon in the game. If you kill the rocket or sniper guy, there's always a chance that it will only have 1 or 2 shots left in it when you pick it up.

Some people use the sword way too much, it having ammo would definately prevent people from "sword-whoring" as it were.

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

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Posted by: Arxaon
Posted by: Turtle55555
I think the XBOX Live version should match the game version of the sword. In the game the sword has a charge and becomes useless at a certain point. However currently the sword in XBOX Live has no charge and is unlimitted. The problem is on some maps whoever originally spaws next to the sword has a better chance of winning the game, due to the heavy advantage of the swaord. If the sword were only good for say 5 kills at a time it would even things up a bit.





I don't get why you guys say the sword isn't a balances weapon.

It isn't my fault if you guys are so horrible you make the stupid mistake of getting too close to me when I have the sword.


I agree. It is actually very easy to kill someone that has a sword. Shotgun, Sniper, BR, heck, even an SMG can kill someone with a sword. Suck it up, people. I'm sure you wouldn't complain if YOU were the ones spawning next to the sword.

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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card?

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?

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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


4on4 Team Slayer has you spawn with 2 frags. If you were smart, you'd chuck at least one when you spotted sword man(depending on how close) and the unload your SMG into him. The SMG IS a fairly good anti-sword weapon. Plus, the Sniper tower has an excellent view of the elevator and most of the area in between.

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Posted by: Arxaon
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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?


I don't like you following me around. I don't swing that way, if you catch my drift.

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


4on4 Team Slayer has you spawn with 2 frags. If you were smart, you'd chuck at least one when you spotted sword man(depending on how close) and the unload your SMG into him. The SMG IS a fairly good anti-sword weapon. Plus, the Sniper tower has an excellent view of the elevator and most of the area in between.


If I'm running to the grav-lift, I may not necessarily be focused on other places. I can't be looking everywhere at once. I have taken out many sword guys with an SMG, but me doing that doesn't change the fact that the sword is overpowered. Especially since wielding a sword lets you lunge ten feet, somehow.

The sword is a great idea for multiplayer, don't get me wrong. I just think it's stupid that you are able to lunge with it. I say take out the lunge and make it have ammo. It could still kill in one slice, that's fine, but just take out the lunge and give it ammo.

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i think in halo 3 you should be able to throw the sword a enemy

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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?


I don't like you following me around. I don't swing that way, if you catch my drift.


Congratulations!

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  • 06.03.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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Distance is the balance to the sword.....

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Back on topic here. Araxon is right.
If you think about it, sword people tend to have a disadvantage, as you can range them with *bullets and nades* and they have to get to a certain distance before they can lunge. If you are backing up the entire time you shoot them, they'll die. PLUS, I'm getting the hang of dodging a sword lunge (yes it's possible). So stop -blam!-ing about swords. They're fun.

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?


I don't like you following me around. I don't swing that way, if you catch my drift.


Congratulations!

You just won the Oscar for "Most Retarded Insult For No Apparent Reason."

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Take it as you will, but it wasn't meant to be an insult. I'm merely telling you I'm not into taking it from guys. I never said you were, I just said I wasn't. It's not my fault you misunderstood and misconstrued what I said.

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Posted by: Rakdos
Back on topic here. Araxon is right.
If you think about it, sword people tend to have a disadvantage, as you can range them with *bullets and nades* and they have to get to a certain distance before they can lunge. If you are backing up the entire time you shoot them, they'll die. PLUS, I'm getting the hang of dodging a sword lunge (yes it's possible). So stop -blam!-ing about swords. They're fun.


Agreed. Besides, any well timed shotgun blast blows away a sword guy.

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So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


I know. There also IS a human version of the sword, the shotgun.

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?


I don't like you following me around. I don't swing that way, if you catch my drift.


Congratulations!

You just won the Oscar for "Most Retarded Insult For No Apparent Reason."

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Take it as you will, but it wasn't meant to be an insult. I'm merely telling you I'm not into taking it from guys. I never said you were, I just said I wasn't. It's not my fault you misunderstood and misconstrued what I said.


What the hell do you think this has to do with the topic of the thread???

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card.


Woooow...am I the only one here that could easily take out a sword guy with an SMG?


I don't like you following me around. I don't swing that way, if you catch my drift.


Congratulations!

You just won the Oscar for "Most Retarded Insult For No Apparent Reason."

Anyone you'd like to thank?


Take it as you will, but it wasn't meant to be an insult. I'm merely telling you I'm not into taking it from guys. I never said you were, I just said I wasn't. It's not my fault you misunderstood and misconstrued what I said.


What the hell do you think this has to do with the topic of the thread???


Nothing, but I wanted to reply to him. He insulted me, and I wanted to tell him why he was wrong in doing so.

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

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Actually, you started it in the first place by saying "you don't swing that way". It had nothing to do with the topic, and most people can naturally assume you're implying something if you bring that up for no reason.

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Posted by: Rakdos
Actually, you started it in the first place by saying "you don't swing that way". It had nothing to do with the topic, and most people can naturally assume you're implying something if you bring that up for no reason.


If you're so pissed about me getting off topic, then why are you doing the same, Mr. Hypocrite? If you don't like my off topic posts, then stop replying to them.

Most people can naturally assume that I'm implying that I like taking it from 300 pound black dudes named "Sue", but they'd be dead wrong. Someone assuming that I'm implying something doesn't mean I am.

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

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Posted by: Spartan 351
holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Alright, take this example: The game is 4v4 slayer on Lockout. You spawn next to the Sword, so you pick it up. I spawn with SMG, and my friends get the BR, the Sniper, etc. So I'm left with the SMG.

We are on the Sniper tower, but I see that no one has grabbed the BR by the grav-lift, so I run for it. But halfway there, you run at me with the sword, my teammates are not in good positions to help me, and I have no plasma grenades. So you beat me down, and proceed to t-bag me because you think you're good with the sword.

You having the sword doesn't make everyone else "noobs", and it doesn't make you better than me. Getting a certain weapon is a lot harder than you make it sound. Also, why can't you just have an intelligent discussion instead of pulling the "High-and-mighty-I'm-better-than-everyone-else-becau se-I-have -the-sword-and-they-have-the-SMG" card?


what makes you a noob is that you guys constantly whine about how unfair the sword is

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Don't take this into the Halo 3 forum, take it into the New Mombasa forum where it should be. I'm sure Bungie knows to fix it in Halo 3.

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holy crap i'm so sick of hearing little noobs whining about how unfair the friggin sword is. it isn't an unfair advantage, get a rocket launcher or something and actually try to kill him instead of whining about how he's better then you


Ditto but that is sort of mean, they are just misunderstanders who are new, lay easy on them. Though I may remind you this isn't only for Xbox Live, I feel your pain, but I don't talk about it in a forum that talks about Halo 3. Please relate to posting these sort of things in the Flood. It specifically says to say your stupid things here. So please go there and annoy the people there and don't waste your time with things like this because people will just hate you and call it spam. (Oh dear lord... I sound like a Forum Ninja... NOOOO!!!!)

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what they should really do is remake the sword and make it weaker and more realistic. Like not be able to lock on to someone from a long distance and the sword should be come weaker as the longer u use it. Then it will be come useless and what will balance out the scores in matchmaking. This would be the best way to fix the problem on xbox live. That it realy does give the other team a little advantage to the match.

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Posted by: Rockinrollcoast
what they should really do is remake the sword and make it weaker and more realistic. Like not be able to lock on to someone from a long distance and the sword should be come weaker as the longer u use it. Then it will be come useless and what will balance out the scores in matchmaking. This would be the best way to fix the problem on xbox live. That it realy does give the other team a little advantage to the match.


I say don't make it weaker, just take off the lunge and give it energy that depletes. The one-slash-kill is fine, but being able to lunge with it is just way more unrealistic than having the sword itself in the game.

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