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Personally, I just don't understand how Halo 2 maps can be compared to Halo 3 maps. Sure, there's symmetry in a bunch. The only map I understand is Zanzibar. All the rest of the popular maps are garbage compared to Halo 3 maps.

Top said Halo 2 maps: Midship, Lockout, Headlong, Zanzibar, Beaver Creek, Ascension

Top said Halo 3 maps: The Pit, Heretic, Guardian, Ghost Town, Avalanche, Valhalla

I'd compare Valhalla and Beaver Creek. While different scales they both have symmetrical bases with asymetrical sides and a middle that overlooks both sides. Personally, the scale of Valhalla is why I think it's very superior. Beaver Creek just doesn't have much. The portals are lame and just break the map while Valhalla has pleanty of vehicles add side routes

Heretic and Midship are the same map with Heretic being better because it doesn't have the randomness of the top swaying platform.

Guardian and Lockout are both the 1v1 favorites of each game. Lockout holds about two decent tactical jumps. You could make a video under a minute including all of them. Guardian has much more. They are also a lot harder (not all of them), but the -blam!- jump found at blue stump takes far better aim than anything on lockout and is very useful for escaping. If you were to compile a catalog of the tactical jumps Guardian has
more variety and takes more timing/skill.

High ground is like Turf. These maps are only good for asymetrical objective (this is my opinion), but High ground is far better because it gives a real base to defend while the attacker has many routes to sneak in from. Turf only has three real routes and the map is too small and easy to score on.

Last is the Pit. No map in halo comes close to it. No map will probably ever get in league with it. It plays good with everything. It feels fun with everything. Hell put a mongoose on it and I'd probably have fun. We all know this is a competitive players dream map. Nothing in Halo 2 comes close.

Personally, I find the Halo 3 maps way better, but a lot of you (Halo 2 forums) think Halo 2 is better. I just want you to know you're wrong. :)

  • 04.29.2012 8:35 PM PDT

"You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space." -Johnny Cash

I liked the Halo 2 maps more than the Halo 3 maps because I had a lot more fun playing on them. Sure, maybe some of the maps in Halo 2 weren't made as well as the maps in Halo 3, but I really don't care about that.

[Edited on 04.30.2012 7:18 AM PDT]

  • 04.30.2012 7:18 AM PDT
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Sure they may not be "logical," but that makes them fun! Personally I believe the best maps were from Halo 2.

  • 04.30.2012 7:38 AM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Why would you compare Valhalla and Beaver Creek? Valhalla and Coagulation would be the more reasonable comparison here.

High Ground is nothing like Turf. If any Halo 3 map shares similarities with Turf, it's Ghost Town. And for you to say that Ghost Town is a top Halo 3 map is laughable.

It's all opinion and preference. Personally, I find the Halo 2 map selection to be way better than the Halo 3 map selection.

  • 04.30.2012 3:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Super PolarBear
Why would you compare Valhalla and Beaver Creek? Valhalla and Coagulation would be the more reasonable comparison here.

High Ground is nothing like Turf. If any Halo 3 map shares similarities with Turf, it's Ghost Town. And for you to say that Ghost Town is a top Halo 3 map is laughable.

It's all opinion and preference. Personally, I find the Halo 2 map selection to be way better than the Halo 3 map selection.
Ghost Town is a terrific map. Plays very well in FFA, zombies, and Team Snipers. However, it sucks in doubles. The spawning for objective doubles in particular is terrible.

  • 05.01.2012 6:46 PM PDT

Posted by: bayareaboss510
One game I'm not joking a little like 7 year old said and I quote " tell me what your dick looks like so I can imagine it in my head and beat off to it"


Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

What a bad post.

  • 05.02.2012 7:36 AM PDT

Posted by: bayareaboss510
One game I'm not joking a little like 7 year old said and I quote " tell me what your dick looks like so I can imagine it in my head and beat off to it"


Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Furthermore, instead of just drive-by posting, I'll add my 2 cents.

4v4 Slayer (popular maps)

Halo 3: Guardian, The Pit, Standoff, Construct, Narrows, Ghost Town, High Ground

Halo 2: Lockout, Beaver Creek, Sanctuary, Midship, Warlock, Ivory Tower, Colossus

Advantage Halo 2.

4v4 Skirmish (popular map + gametypes)

Halo 3: The Pit CTF, High Ground 1 CTF, Standoff CTF, Narrows CTF, Guardian Oddball, Ghost Town 1 CTF, High Ground Territories

Halo 2: Sanctuary CTF, Midship Neutral Bomb, Ivory Tower One Bomb, Zanzibar 1 Bomb, Warlock Neutral Bomb, Beaver Creek CTF, Turf 3 Plots

Advantage: Halo 2

12-16 players (popular maps + gametypes)

Halo 3: Valhalla CTF, Sandtrap CTF, Rat's Nest CTF, Avalanche CTF, Valhalla Territories, Santrap 1 Flag, Rat's Nest Neutral Bomb

Halo 2: Coagulation CTF, Headlong 1 Bomb, Terminal 1 Bomb, Waterworks Assault, Containment CTF, Coagulation Neutral Bomb, Headlong 1 Flag

Advantage: Halo 2

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So where does Halo 3's maps and gametypes shine, really? There's no redeeming factors that somebody can list that makes me buy into that theory. Every gametype Halo 2 had was superior in every facet over Halo 3's. In fact, Halo 3 removed 3 Plots, added VIP, which was god awful, had instant arm Assault which was absolutely terrible, and had long respawn times with the flag. It was atrocious. And noticed I only used a select number of maps in 3, because it's embarrassing to list out the others.

  • 05.02.2012 7:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: Striker029
0/10

  • 05.02.2012 5:38 PM PDT

This is a Reach account that I created the day they announced his name in a bnet weekly update. Any stats regarding ODST or Halo 3 are irrelevant. Also, Halo CE master race. Halo 1 > other halo games > other games.

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Chillout + Sidewinder were two of the best halo 1 maps so halo 3 has halo 2 beat right there.

  • 05.02.2012 5:47 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Posted by: NOBLE SlX
Chillout + Sidewinder were two of the best halo 1 maps so halo 3 has halo 2 beat right there.
I am a little confused by this. Are you saying that Battle Creek, Hang 'Em High, Blood Gulch and Wizard were bad Halo 1 maps?

  • 05.02.2012 6:11 PM PDT

This is a Reach account that I created the day they announced his name in a bnet weekly update. Any stats regarding ODST or Halo 3 are irrelevant. Also, Halo CE master race. Halo 1 > other halo games > other games.

Account Status: Silver :(

Posted by: Super PolarBear
Posted by: NOBLE SlX
Chillout + Sidewinder were two of the best halo 1 maps so halo 3 has halo 2 beat right there.
I am a little confused by this. Are you saying that Battle Creek, Hang 'Em High, Blood Gulch and Wizard were bad Halo 1 maps?
Not at all. I was going to go into a long dissection of each remake, but its not worth it. I love all the CE maps including Derelict and Longest which were also remade in Halo 2 because of CE. None of the maps are the same in any of the games because the spawning, sandbox, ect. However, I would still put Sidewinder above any Halo map and Chillout a distant second in the same breath as Rat Race, Hang Em High, and Blood Gultch. I personally like Halo 3 above Halo 2 so that has some influence, but none of the remakes in any of the games are as good as the original. Reach versions are worse than the Halo 2 because the spawning does not even make logical sense. People spawn directly in front of you on Prisoner and you can line up sniper shots that way and Damnation spawns you bottom red over and over again.

  • 05.03.2012 11:33 AM PDT

Posted by: bayareaboss510
One game I'm not joking a little like 7 year old said and I quote " tell me what your dick looks like so I can imagine it in my head and beat off to it"


Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Lockout and Zanzibar were two great Halo 2 maps, and remade in Halo 3 only to be flatout garbage.

  • 05.03.2012 3:18 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: Striker029
Lockout and Zanzibar were two great Halo 2 maps, and remade in Halo 3 only to be flatout garbage.
Have to agree with blackout. I like last resort, but blackout is complete garbage because it's got so many random little bumps in the railing. I veto that map every time I see it except for zombies.

  • 05.03.2012 5:38 PM PDT
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Terrible thread.

2/10

1 for effort, 1 for me posting.

  • 05.06.2012 4:57 AM PDT