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Subject: So I decided to abuse jetpack.

I'm about as slightly above average as you can get.

Jesus Christ it's broken.

[Edited on 04.30.2012 7:01 PM PDT]

  • 04.30.2012 7:00 PM PDT

i agree.

  • 04.30.2012 7:04 PM PDT

Obviously.

  • 04.30.2012 7:06 PM PDT

How do you abuse jetpack?

  • 04.30.2012 7:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
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Posted by: Negabite
How do you abuse jetpack?


I'd show you an example, but I'm too lazy to find a link or explain. I'd tell you to play Arena too, but there isn't jetpack in there anymore.

  • 04.30.2012 7:09 PM PDT

Yep. I hate Jetpack more then any other feature in the game. Playing some H3 yesterday makes you realise just how much better this game was without Jetpack (and all AA's specifically sprint as well). To bad for people like me because we only have a handful of playlists to go into and avoid this abomination.

  • 04.30.2012 7:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: RustedEdge

Posted by: Negabite
How do you abuse jetpack?


I'd show you an example, but I'm too lazy to find a link or explain. I'd tell you to play Arena too, but there isn't jetpack in there anymore.

I jetpack'd all yesterday in DMR games just to see what it was like... it's... whoah.

  • 04.30.2012 7:42 PM PDT

I'm reporting you to child services.

  • 04.30.2012 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Tomberry
I hate Jetpack more then any other feature in the game.
... Why? That's completely asinine.

Maybe it isn't always placed on the best maps. Maybe it shouldn't be in any default maps in matchmaking. But hating the feature itself is just... well, it's completely ridiculous. You don't like the maps it is placed on, that's all. It's a pretty big difference.
:/

[Edited on 04.30.2012 8:19 PM PDT]

  • 04.30.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: Tomberry
I hate Jetpack more then any other feature in the game.
... Why? That's completely asinine.

Maybe it isn't always placed on the best maps. Maybe it shouldn't be in any default maps in matchmaking. But hating the feature itself is just... well, it's completely ridiculous. You don't like the maps it is placed on, that's all. It's a pretty big difference.
:/
The ability itself doesn't work. It needs revised so people can't abuse soft-kill zones and such. I'd prefer it be a little burst rather than a Tribes-esque jetpack.

  • 04.30.2012 8:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
The ability itself doesn't work. It needs revised so people can't abuse soft-kill zones and such. I'd prefer it be a little burst rather than a Tribes-esque jetpack.
Meh. Personally I'd opt in for the ability to forge our own soft-barriers rather than these lame soft-kill barriers.

  • 04.30.2012 8:42 PM PDT

Posted by: burritosenior
... Why? That's completely asinine.

Maybe it isn't always placed on the best maps. Maybe it shouldn't be in any default maps in matchmaking. But hating the feature itself is just... well, it's completely ridiculous. You don't like the maps it is placed on, that's all. It's a pretty big difference.
:/
Umm... What?

I dislike Jetpack (is hate to strong a word for these lands, didn't realise we were at the Waypoint forums). Every other feature in the game I can tolerate (bloom, cra­p movement, other AA's) but Jetpack frustrates me to no end because it completely throws map control out of the window.

Not to mention it is a massive crutch for people who have extremely poor positioning skills, it very easily allows you to negate all protection the other person may be using. I know you can try to blame the maps in the end, but Jetpack adds so little to the game and so limits what maps can be like that I think the best decision is to remove jetpacks, not the maps which play poorly with it (all of them).

Also, IMO it is essentially impossible to make a map that plays well with Jetpack, at least I have never seen one. Do you know of any?

  • 04.30.2012 9:11 PM PDT

chances are I don't care who you are or what you say.

*propack

  • 04.30.2012 9:22 PM PDT

Tru7h. C4RN4GE. Bungie.

I use Armorlock the least. I hate Jetpacks when I'm flying banshee. This game could do without it.

  • 05.01.2012 12:59 AM PDT

Posted by: Tomberry
Umm... What?
Read it again. I was quite clear.


I dislike Jetpack (is hate to strong a word for these lands, didn't realise we were at the Waypoint forums).
If you think this is about semantics then I gave you way too much credit before.

Every other feature in the game I can tolerate (bloom, cra­p movement, other AA's) but Jetpack frustrates me to no end because it completely throws map control out of the window.On the maps you play it on perhaps.

Not to mention it is a massive crutch for people who have extremely poor positioning skills, it very easily allows you to negate all protection the other person may be using.Not if the maps were designed for the Jetpack. Again, you're complaining about the maps it is placed on, not the ability itself.
I know you can try to blame the maps in the end, but Jetpack adds so little to the gameTry? No. It's just a fact. And what do you mean 'adds little?' You JUST said it completely destroys large chunks of gameplay. That's hardly 'little.' So which is it- does it not affect gameplay, or does it affect gameplay? Because every other section of your post makes it sound like Jetpack adds a TON to the game, but you don't like what it adds.

and so limits what maps can be likeThe inclusion of a jetpack in Halo: Reach as an option does not limit people forging.

that I think the best decision is to remove jetpacks, not the maps which play poorly with it (all of them).... I never said remove the maps. That's ridiculous. I said you are complaining about the maps it is placed on. Maybe the jetpack should be removed from certain maps because it doesn't work on them. That's fine. But that's because the Jetpack doesn't work for that map, not because the Jetpack in itself is somehow 'bad.'

Also, IMO it is essentially impossible to make a map that plays well with Jetpack, at least I have never seen one. Do you know of any?Play more custom games mate. Expand your horizons.

  • 05.01.2012 8:37 AM PDT


Posted by: burritosenior
Play more custom games mate. Expand your horizons.

Reach customs generally aren't fun. Especially by comparison to Halo 3's.

[Edited on 05.01.2012 8:43 AM PDT]

  • 05.01.2012 8:42 AM PDT


Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: Tomberry
Umm... What?
Read it again. I was quite clear.


I dislike Jetpack (is hate to strong a word for these lands, didn't realise we were at the Waypoint forums).
If you think this is about semantics then I gave you way too much credit before.

Every other feature in the game I can tolerate (bloom, cra­p movement, other AA's) but Jetpack frustrates me to no end because it completely throws map control out of the window.On the maps you play it on perhaps.

Not to mention it is a massive crutch for people who have extremely poor positioning skills, it very easily allows you to negate all protection the other person may be using.Not if the maps were designed for the Jetpack. Again, you're complaining about the maps it is placed on, not the ability itself.


The fact that the jetpack is available on every map, and on every map it breaks setups, then I believe we have a right to "hate" the jetpack. Your argument is awful, at best. You aren't arguing that we only hate the jetpack on certain maps - you're telling us that we hate the jetpack on certain maps.

First, stop telling us what we hate.

Second, when jetpacks break map control on every map in the game, then it isn't just "their application" that we hate - it's the actual thing.

I'm still trying to comprehend your argument. It makes no sense. It's like saying that we don't hate bloom, we just hate when bloom is on our guns. It's always on our guns, therefore we always hate it.

  • 05.01.2012 8:48 AM PDT

Posted by: KO Drizzy Dray
The fact that the jetpack is available on every map, and on every map it breaks setups, then I believe we have a right to "hate" the jetpack.

You have a right to 'say' you ''hate'' the jetpack, but your every argument says that is completely false. Maybe it shouldn't be available on any map currently in MatchMaking. But that doesn't mean the jetpack is 'bad.' It means it doesn't work on those maps. So, again, you don't hate the jetpack. You hate it on certain maps.

Your argument is awful, at best. You aren't arguing that we only hate the jetpack on certain maps - you're telling us that we hate the jetpack on certain maps. I'm trying to make you understand a fact, yes. I don't like letting ignorance slide by without at least attempting to correct it.
First, stop telling us what we hate. Then stop saying one thing then rationalizing another.

Second, when jetpacks break map control on every map in the game, then it isn't just "their application" that we hate - it's the actual thing.
wat

It's like saying that we don't hate bloom, we just hate when bloom is on our guns. It's always on our guns, therefore we always hate it. At first I was going to call that out for being a terrible analogy, but I got to thinking.

Tell me. Do YOU prefer the DMR over the Battle Rifle since it has Bloom?

  • 05.01.2012 8:51 AM PDT


Posted by: burritosenior


You're missing the point.

Maybe we hate how it is applied, but since it's applied incorrectly in every way imaginable, one can deduce that we hate the actual thing. Your argument is appliable to any scenario, related to Halo or otherwise, and it's simply a different way of saying the same thing.

If I dislike the way the Jetpack works, and there is no way that it can work better without being fully removed, then I must hate the Jetpack itself. There's no point in arguing that we only hate how the Jetpack is used and not the Jetpack itself, since when the former is true indefinitely, then the latter must be true as well.

  • 05.01.2012 8:57 AM PDT

Posted by: KO Drizzy Dray
You're missing the point.
No, but it seems quite clear that you are mate.

If I dislike the way the Jetpack works, and there is no way that it can work better without being fully removed, then I must hate the Jetpack itself.Not a single post you made said you dislike how it works itself. You just said it breaks map control in the maps you have played it on so you don't like it. Your reasoning there does not support your claim. Now if you want to say 'Oh I don't like how you can just burst up I'm rather have quick bursts or something so I hate the jetpack' like the other guy did? That's more legitimate. But you're making a rather ignorant claim without any real backing, unfortunately.

  • 05.01.2012 9:05 AM PDT

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Ah yes, how I love to abuse the soft kills on Asylum with Jetpack.

It just shouldn't be in Halo. Period.

But compared to other things it doesn't bother me that much.

[Edited on 05.01.2012 9:10 AM PDT]

  • 05.01.2012 9:09 AM PDT

Every single pummel I have is unboosted.
I play GGL. (Grifball)
I hit inheritor 14/1/12. 16 months after release. I have a life fellas.
Every single killionaire I have is unboosted. 22 from grifball, 4 from LD.

Theres limits with the jetpack.
Maps such as Reflection and Uncaged are like, two peas in a pot with jetpack. It's amazing. It was mentioned by Im Pigeon before, Arena losts problems but made more problems for replacement when jetpack was removed.

The big one was mobility in asymettrical maps like Reflection, Uncaged and Sword Base, and that jetpack was needed in order to keep weapon balance.

Other maps say Select, Synapse or Pulse, don't need jetpack because the are flat and are easily accessible and symettrical to everything with sprint..if you avoid dying.

  • 05.01.2012 9:14 AM PDT

Burito, do you want an essay as to why the jetpack should be removed? Hardly anyone likes the jetpack (exclusing Gamesager, but he lives in the clouds already). It can be abused on every map. The jetpack is not useful on only 2 default maps (Zealot and Countdown). On every other map, it turns the tides by the click of a button.

  • 05.01.2012 9:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: burritosenior
Play more custom games mate. Expand your horizons.

Reach customs generally aren't fun. Especially by comparison to Halo 3's.


Assuming you can even find customs anymore.

  • 05.01.2012 9:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: burritosenior
Play more custom games mate. Expand your horizons.

Reach customs generally aren't fun. Especially by comparison to Halo 3's.


Assuming you can even find customs anymore.


Reach customs were rampant back in 2010-2011. I played in lobbies almost every day.

Now the only customs I know I can partake in are scheduled for Saturdays. Otherwise nobody wants to do any, and when we do it's always some stupid stuff like Infection.

  • 05.01.2012 9:31 AM PDT

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